[VIDEO] A dedication to all my Stamina Dragon Knight bros

crusnik91

We had fun while it lasted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE1L_FzIPpE

Aedaryl

Good video, extremely good gameplay

You are acting like stamina DK is not overpowered on live, so funny You can't be extremely tanky, deal insane damage, have powerfull heal, all without any sustain piece of set next patch, that's not fair

Nerfs was needed, maybe there are not all well build yeah.

Can't wait to see more video next patch

Valencer

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Aedaryl

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal to sustain, which is nerf.

Also, don't forget pet sorc is stuck in mechanics, you can't lower you max magicka cuz you will descrease your pet damage and your only shield, making your defense useless and you damage not enough hight to be a viable choice.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue Don't forget that pet sorc is the squichiest build in that game, even magicka nb survive far better, pet sorc sacrifise survivability and sustain for damage and curently stam dk just have everything without problem.

Ocelot9x

Aedaryl wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal and some heavies to be viable in term of sustain.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue

Man please. It's true that on live stam dk is really strong,but stamplar\stam sorc are stronger,they do basically the same things but better. Also,petsorc are insanely strong 1v1 because the op targeting of this game. Also,this sorc are bad 1vX is totally bs. The few 1vxer still playing on my server switched to mag sorc long ago. Why? If you're good you'll never run out of resources while every 3,5 sec you can burst for 20kish damage.

Tldr: filthy sorcs l2p please don't ruin our last goodbye to our beloved class.

Aedaryl

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal and some heavies to be viable in term of sustain.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue

Man please. It's true that on live stam dk is really strong,but stamplar\stam sorc are stronger,they do basically the same things but better. Also,petsorc are insanely strong 1v1 because the op targeting of this game. Also,this sorc are bad 1vX is totally bs. The few 1vxer still playing on my server switched to mag sorc long ago. Why? If you're good you'll never run out of resources while every 3,5 sec you can burst for 20kish damage.

Tldr: filthy sorcs l2p please don't ruin our last goodbye to our beloved class.

You just proove you don't know anything about pet sorc, and you are only able to complain.

First, dk is the strongest stamina class now, because they don't need DD for good sustain, and can tank & heal better than stam sorc. Also, stam dk have better sustain and tanking than stamplar.

The Gap between stam classed is not huge, but stam dk lead.

Secondly, the fact that pets can take the "aggro" of player is not what's make pet sorc good, because you can learn easely how to non target pets, I rarely touch pets when I fight other pets sorc because I learned to counter that.

Then, you are saying 1vxer switched to mag sorc, but no one swiched to pet sorc for 1vx, just because it's weak. Bad survivability, and bad UI from pets making them extremely hard and not good to manage in 1vx.

Also, the 3.5 s you are speaking is haunting curse, and pet sorc use the 6s morph named deadric pray. Of course, pet sorc rarely use regen set, so they can run OOM if they are not extremely carefull.

Just an other player hwo don't know how work pet sorc and how counter him, just able to use false facts and complain, but there is no problem, you will learn

D0ntevenL1ft

Aedaryl wrote: »

Good video, extremely good gameplay

You are acting like stamina DK is not overpowered on live, so funny You can't be extremely tanky, deal insane damage, have powerfull heal, all without any sustain piece of set next patch, that's not fair

Nerfs was needed, maybe there are not all well build yeah.

Can't wait to see more video next patch

Hahahahahahaha. Stamdk deals insane damage how? Through dizzying swing ? When Stam sorcs and stamplars have class oassivwa that automatically boost their damage higher than a Stam dk.

They're overpowered cuz of Dots in pvp? Or are they overpowered because of major mending which Templars use much much better; not to mention the fact Templars have minor protection so they can reduce damage much better.

I'm not surprised you're a sorc because you know absolutely nothing about other classes.

Aedaryl

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Good video, extremely good gameplay

You are acting like stamina DK is not overpowered on live, so funny You can't be extremely tanky, deal insane damage, have powerfull heal, all without any sustain piece of set next patch, that's not fair

Nerfs was needed, maybe there are not all well build yeah.

Can't wait to see more video next patch

Hahahahahahaha. Stamdk deals insane damage how? Through dizzying swing ? When Stam sorcs and stamplars have class oassivwa that automatically boost their damage higher than a Stam dk.

They're overpowered cuz of Dots in pvp? Or are they overpowered because of major mending which Templars use much much better; not to mention the fact Templars have minor protection so they can reduce damage much better.

I'm not surprised you're a sorc because you know absolutely nothing about other classes.

I never said stam dk has the better damage, I said they can put insane damage, it's not dk related, but a stamina thing, all stam character can have very easy good burst. You can for example use heavy attack + DB + DS + execute, it's a pretty good burst. If you are not able to burst with a stam dk, it's a L2P issue Don't forget stam dk can have easely 18k heavy attacks on a light armor characters

You don't known absolutely nothing about stam dk

Izaki

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal and some heavies to be viable in term of sustain.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue

Man please. It's true that on live stam dk is really strong,but stamplar\stam sorc are stronger,they do basically the same things but better. Also,petsorc are insanely strong 1v1 because the op targeting of this game. Also,this sorc are bad 1vX is totally bs. The few 1vxer still playing on my server switched to mag sorc long ago. Why? If you're good you'll never run out of resources while every 3,5 sec you can burst for 20kish damage.

Tldr: filthy sorcs l2p please don't ruin our last goodbye to our beloved class.

Nah man, Stam DK > Stam Sorc in every single way. From sustain, to surivability, to damage. And a stamplar... I don't even know how you can compare it to the other 2. Damage wise, its fine, but survivability and damage aren't even close to what DKs are able to achieve.
Battle Roar + Igneous Shield > Dark Deal

Athrys5

Another good video man.
Also people saying that stam dk is not as good as mag sorc should really reconsider their skills.

Izaki

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Good video, extremely good gameplay

You are acting like stamina DK is not overpowered on live, so funny You can't be extremely tanky, deal insane damage, have powerfull heal, all without any sustain piece of set next patch, that's not fair

Nerfs was needed, maybe there are not all well build yeah.

Can't wait to see more video next patch

Hahahahahahaha. Stamdk deals insane damage how? Through dizzying swing ? When Stam sorcs and stamplars have class oassivwa that automatically boost their damage higher than a Stam dk.

They're overpowered cuz of Dots in pvp? Or are they overpowered because of major mending which Templars use much much better; not to mention the fact Templars have minor protection so they can reduce damage much better.

I'm not surprised you're a sorc because you know absolutely nothing about other classes.

You know... When you build properly you can deal insane damage and it doesn't have to be through Dizzying Swing.

D0ntevenL1ft

Aedaryl wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Good video, extremely good gameplay

You are acting like stamina DK is not overpowered on live, so funny You can't be extremely tanky, deal insane damage, have powerfull heal, all without any sustain piece of set next patch, that's not fair

Nerfs was needed, maybe there are not all well build yeah.

Can't wait to see more video next patch

Hahahahahahaha. Stamdk deals insane damage how? Through dizzying swing ? When Stam sorcs and stamplars have class oassivwa that automatically boost their damage higher than a Stam dk.

They're overpowered cuz of Dots in pvp? Or are they overpowered because of major mending which Templars use much much better; not to mention the fact Templars have minor protection so they can reduce damage much better.

I'm not surprised you're a sorc because you know absolutely nothing about other classes.

I never said stam dk has the better damage, I said they can put insane damage, it's not dk related, but a stamina thing, all stam character can have very easy good burst. You can for example use heavy attack + DB + DS + execute, it's a pretty good burst. If you are not able to burst with a stam dk, it's a L2P issue Don't forget stam dk can have easely 18k heavy attacks on a light armor characters

You don't known absolutely nothing about stam dk

Rofl if we are landing 18k heavy attacks on light armour I'm going to say L2P since you didn't restack your shield and pirate skeleton didn't prop. If you aren't breaking free after the dizzying swing the recasting your 82 shields after a streak then it's also a L2P.

Good thing you chose a class played by the main decliners since you'll never have to be a talented player.

Ocelot9x

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal and some heavies to be viable in term of sustain.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue

Man please. It's true that on live stam dk is really strong,but stamplar\stam sorc are stronger,they do basically the same things but better. Also,petsorc are insanely strong 1v1 because the op targeting of this game. Also,this sorc are bad 1vX is totally bs. The few 1vxer still playing on my server switched to mag sorc long ago. Why? If you're good you'll never run out of resources while every 3,5 sec you can burst for 20kish damage.

Tldr: filthy sorcs l2p please don't ruin our last goodbye to our beloved class.

You just proove you don't know anything about pet sorc, and you are only able to complain.

First, dk is the strongest stamina class now, because they don't need DD for good sustain, and can tank & heal better than stam sorc. Also, stam dk have better sustain and tanking than stamplar.

The Gap between stam classed is not huge, but stam dk lead.

Secondly, the fact that pets can take the "aggro" of player is not what's make pet sorc good, because you can learn easely how to non target pets, I rarely touch pets when I fight other pets sorc because I learned to counter that.

Then, you are saying 1vxer switched to mag sorc, but no one swiched to pet sorc for 1vx, just because it's weak. Bad survivability, and bad UI from pets making them extremely hard and not good to manage in 1vx.

Also, the 3.5 s you are speaking is haunting curse, and pet sorc use the 6s morph named deadric pray. Of course, pet sorc rarely use regen set, so they can run OOM if they are not extremely carefull.

Just an other player hwo don't know how work pet sorc and how counter him, just able to use false facts and complain, but there is no problem, you will learn

I was talking about sorcs in general. No one plays pet sorc because its unreliable and boring. It's just a 4fun build who works in duels but quickly gets boring because and it takes literally 0 skill: curse,heavy attack,pet skills,shields. Also you cant give orders to your pets so in a 1vx scenario you can rely just on luck,while being totally overpowered 1v1.
Anyway stop talking about stamina because you clearly have no clue. Stam sorc have more sustain and more damage than dk (los into dark deal is something you will learn your first week of PvP). Also you have more heals as Stam sorc while doing damage (with mending and minor vitality you have 33% more heals on avg 3k CRIT vigor tick its 990 bonus healing,how much will a tick of surge will heal for? Read your tooltip :P ). Stam dk have more sustain than stamplar,but not a big deal because as a stamplar you have 3x more damage than dk so you can build for more sustain. Tankyness? Nope. Standing in your sweet small rune will get you for around 6 sec major mending,minor vitality, ward and resolve AND 8% damage damage reduction. Now,dks have no damage reduction. So please,stop talking. And I know what I'm saying with 90 days on my Stam dk ,20 on my stamsorc
And 15 on my stamplar doing ONLY PvP.

D0ntevenL1ft

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal and some heavies to be viable in term of sustain.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue

Man please. It's true that on live stam dk is really strong,but stamplar\stam sorc are stronger,they do basically the same things but better. Also,petsorc are insanely strong 1v1 because the op targeting of this game. Also,this sorc are bad 1vX is totally bs. The few 1vxer still playing on my server switched to mag sorc long ago. Why? If you're good you'll never run out of resources while every 3,5 sec you can burst for 20kish damage.

Tldr: filthy sorcs l2p please don't ruin our last goodbye to our beloved class.

You just proove you don't know anything about pet sorc, and you are only able to complain.

First, dk is the strongest stamina class now, because they don't need DD for good sustain, and can tank & heal better than stam sorc. Also, stam dk have better sustain and tanking than stamplar.

The Gap between stam classed is not huge, but stam dk lead.

Secondly, the fact that pets can take the "aggro" of player is not what's make pet sorc good, because you can learn easely how to non target pets, I rarely touch pets when I fight other pets sorc because I learned to counter that.

Then, you are saying 1vxer switched to mag sorc, but no one swiched to pet sorc for 1vx, just because it's weak. Bad survivability, and bad UI from pets making them extremely hard and not good to manage in 1vx.

Also, the 3.5 s you are speaking is haunting curse, and pet sorc use the 6s morph named deadric pray. Of course, pet sorc rarely use regen set, so they can run OOM if they are not extremely carefull.

Just an other player hwo don't know how work pet sorc and how counter him, just able to use false facts and complain, but there is no problem, you will learn

I was talking about sorcs in general. No one plays pet sorc because its unreliable and boring. It's just a 4fun build who works in duels but quickly gets boring because and it takes literally 0 skill: curse,heavy attack,pet skills,shields. Also you cant give orders to your pets so in a 1vx scenario you can rely just on luck,while being totally overpowered 1v1.
Anyway stop talking about stamina because you clearly have no clue. Stam sorc have more sustain and more damage than dk (los into dark deal is something you will learn your first week of PvP). Also you have more heals as Stam sorc while doing damage (with mending and minor vitality you have 33% more heals on avg 3k CRIT vigor tick its 990 bonus healing,how much will a tick of surge will heal for? Read your tooltip :P ). Stam dk have more sustain than stamplar,but not a big deal because as a stamplar you have 3x more damage than dk so you can build for more sustain. Tankyness? Nope. Standing in your sweet small rune will get you for around 6 sec major mending,minor vitality, ward and resolve AND 8% damage damage reduction. Now,dks have no damage reduction. So please,stop talking. And I know what I'm saying with 90 days on my Stam dk ,20 on my stamsorc
And 15 on my stamplar doing ONLY PvP.

Exactly what I tried telling him in my comment about 3 posts up; he knows absolutely nothing about stamina classes. Typical sorc mentality.

Aedaryl

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Good video, extremely good gameplay

You are acting like stamina DK is not overpowered on live, so funny You can't be extremely tanky, deal insane damage, have powerfull heal, all without any sustain piece of set next patch, that's not fair

Nerfs was needed, maybe there are not all well build yeah.

Can't wait to see more video next patch

Hahahahahahaha. Stamdk deals insane damage how? Through dizzying swing ? When Stam sorcs and stamplars have class oassivwa that automatically boost their damage higher than a Stam dk.

They're overpowered cuz of Dots in pvp? Or are they overpowered because of major mending which Templars use much much better; not to mention the fact Templars have minor protection so they can reduce damage much better.

I'm not surprised you're a sorc because you know absolutely nothing about other classes.

I never said stam dk has the better damage, I said they can put insane damage, it's not dk related, but a stamina thing, all stam character can have very easy good burst. You can for example use heavy attack + DB + DS + execute, it's a pretty good burst. If you are not able to burst with a stam dk, it's a L2P issue Don't forget stam dk can have easely 18k heavy attacks on a light armor characters

You don't known absolutely nothing about stam dk

Rofl if we are landing 18k heavy attacks on light armour I'm going to say L2P since you didn't restack your shield and pirate skeleton didn't prop. If you aren't breaking free after the dizzying swing the recasting your 82 shields after a streak then it's also a L2P.

Good thing you chose a class played by the main decliners since you'll never have to be a talented player.

It's funny to see how you are angry, because you know you are wrong

I never said I can't manage 18k heavy attack, I can perfectly recast my shield, I don't use pirate skeleton, and I can break free, but you need to know people build their burst on cc because the human reaction time make the attacker gain a bit time, depending how much time the ennemi break free, but still time : when you break free, you are not doing something else. That's why I'm speaking about a cc time burst, not because I can't break free or manage it, but because it's an effective way to burst

also, you are saying contradictory things, I told you I use one single shield, you say it too, then just after you are saying I'm casting 82 shields, which is stupid because I don't even shieldstack

You should keep your calm before making you more ridiculious

Aedaryl

Aldenn wrote: »

Another good video man.
Also people saying that stam dk is not as good as mag sorc should really reconsider their skills.

No one said stam dk is > than mag sorc ; I said stam dk is (> pet sorc) OP because he can 1vx and 1v1 and performing extremely well without difficulties

Also, the reason in homestead why mag sorc can be OP is mainly because there is pirate skeleton, but hopefully, it's nerf next patch.

Vapirko

crusnik91 wrote: »

We had fun while it lasted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE1L_FzIPpE

I'll drink to that. Here's to the future of getting mages wrath spammed.

Ocelot9x

Aedaryl wrote: »

Aldenn wrote: »

Another good video man.
Also people saying that stam dk is not as good as mag sorc should really reconsider their skills.

No one said stam dk is > than mag sorc ; I said stam dk is (> pet sorc) OP because he can 1vx and 1v1 and performing extremely well without difficulties

Also, the reason in homestead why mag sorc can be OP is mainly because there is pirate skeleton, but hopefully, it's nerf next patch.

Aaaand here your wrong again. Infinite resources makes sorc op,endless stamina to break free and endless mag to cast shields leaving a 1 sec window to deal 20-25k damage to kill a decent to average sorc. I find infernal guardian more hard to play against especially when paired with mines for the insane amount of pressure

Aedaryl

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Aldenn wrote: »

Another good video man.
Also people saying that stam dk is not as good as mag sorc should really reconsider their skills.

No one said stam dk is > than mag sorc ; I said stam dk is (> pet sorc) OP because he can 1vx and 1v1 and performing extremely well without difficulties

Also, the reason in homestead why mag sorc can be OP is mainly because there is pirate skeleton, but hopefully, it's nerf next patch.

Aaaand here your wrong again. Infinite resources makes sorc op,endless stamina to break free and endless mag to cast shields leaving a 1 sec window to deal 20-25k damage to kill a decent to average sorc. I find infernal guardian more hard to play against especially when paired with mines for the insane amount of pressure

MSorc have good sustain because they wear lich or amberplasm, (stam dk don't even wear a sustain set ! ) and saying having sustain make sorc OP is stupid, because everyone will always make their build viable to sustain.

Hwo will play an unsustanable build ? No one, it's better to lower the damage or defenses but keep sustaining than cast 3 skill and then wait for people kill you because you are unable to do something.

The problem you could say is : sorc have too much damage and defense will endless sustain. But it's false, sorc doesn't have everything, the main problem you seems point here is the easy way to sustain shield stacking which is true.

Actually, harness magicka give you more magicka than it cost when you take 3 magicka hit. It's OP and need a nerf of course.

Easy stamina sustain is only true with amberplasm. Sorc without amberplasm need to be extremely carefull to their stamina pool, because it's hard to manage. One dodge roll or block that's not needed make you run OOS and die on the next cc.

Infernal guardian is a L2P issue, the travel time is slow, and there is an AoE red circle telling you where it will goes, you can easely avoid it.

Having trouble killing a shield stacking sorc without pirate skelton is a L2P issue, or a sorc hwo goes 100% on the defensive in a duel.

I personaly think the shield stacking with light armor ward and hardened ward need to be nerfed, but even, people kill shieldstacking sorc since years.

Aedaryl

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Valencer wrote: »

Of course the first reply had to be a necropotence pet sorc complaining about others being OP.

Nice video, man.

Necropotence pet sorc is not OP in cyrodiil, it can be in duel with a 100% duel build, but anyway, pet sorc will loose tons of damage and the only ability that's a bit OP, the scamp will be nerf. Don't forget pet sorc is the kind of 80% damage build, relying on minor magicka steal and some heavies to be viable in term of sustain.


The difference between a pet sorc and a stam dk is 1vx, while the dk can tank some ennemies and still dealing ton of damage without sustain set, a 15k shield and 20k hp is just destroy in few seconds, or you need to spam your shield like a *** and doing nothing else until cc arrived to kill you.

Also, if you can't counter a pet sorc, it's just a L2P issue

Man please. It's true that on live stam dk is really strong,but stamplar\stam sorc are stronger,they do basically the same things but better. Also,petsorc are insanely strong 1v1 because the op targeting of this game. Also,this sorc are bad 1vX is totally bs. The few 1vxer still playing on my server switched to mag sorc long ago. Why? If you're good you'll never run out of resources while every 3,5 sec you can burst for 20kish damage.

Tldr: filthy sorcs l2p please don't ruin our last goodbye to our beloved class.

You just proove you don't know anything about pet sorc, and you are only able to complain.

First, dk is the strongest stamina class now, because they don't need DD for good sustain, and can tank & heal better than stam sorc. Also, stam dk have better sustain and tanking than stamplar.

The Gap between stam classed is not huge, but stam dk lead.

Secondly, the fact that pets can take the "aggro" of player is not what's make pet sorc good, because you can learn easely how to non target pets, I rarely touch pets when I fight other pets sorc because I learned to counter that.

Then, you are saying 1vxer switched to mag sorc, but no one swiched to pet sorc for 1vx, just because it's weak. Bad survivability, and bad UI from pets making them extremely hard and not good to manage in 1vx.

Also, the 3.5 s you are speaking is haunting curse, and pet sorc use the 6s morph named deadric pray. Of course, pet sorc rarely use regen set, so they can run OOM if they are not extremely carefull.

Just an other player hwo don't know how work pet sorc and how counter him, just able to use false facts and complain, but there is no problem, you will learn

I was talking about sorcs in general. No one plays pet sorc because its unreliable and boring. It's just a 4fun build who works in duels but quickly gets boring because and it takes literally 0 skill: curse,heavy attack,pet skills,shields. Also you cant give orders to your pets so in a 1vx scenario you can rely just on luck,while being totally overpowered 1v1.
Anyway stop talking about stamina because you clearly have no clue. Stam sorc have more sustain and more damage than dk (los into dark deal is something you will learn your first week of PvP). Also you have more heals as Stam sorc while doing damage (with mending and minor vitality you have 33% more heals on avg 3k CRIT vigor tick its 990 bonus healing,how much will a tick of surge will heal for? Read your tooltip :P ). Stam dk have more sustain than stamplar,but not a big deal because as a stamplar you have 3x more damage than dk so you can build for more sustain. Tankyness? Nope. Standing in your sweet small rune will get you for around 6 sec major mending,minor vitality, ward and resolve AND 8% damage damage reduction. Now,dks have no damage reduction. So please,stop talking. And I know what I'm saying with 90 days on my Stam dk ,20 on my stamsorc
And 15 on my stamplar doing ONLY PvP.

Again, you showing your lack of knowledge in this game :

You can give orders to your pets, and the thing making them not use in 1vx is because pets are slow and don't follow you when you streak or can't follow a very mobile target, are sometime bugged in wall/rocks and are easely kills larg group fights.

But pet can be use seriously in cyrodil, and it's not a just a fun build, it's just extremely harder than everything else.

Also, if you just use curse and heavy attacks like a ***, it's a big L2P issue too, pet sorc don't need to heavy attacking all the time, and you don't seems able to understand how a pet sorc make damage.

Pls stop telling wrong things like that, it's make you seems dumb.

Concerning stamina builds :

Stam sorc don't have more sustain than DK, both have infinite sustain, but sorc need to use DD, dk just have it with passives.
Stam sorc heal is less reliable than dk one, you need to attack for have heal, but a stam dk can have heal when he want, even, when he go full defensive.
Stam SK are tankier than templar because stam dk is better for blocking.

Chrlynsch

Person posts a video specifically about Stamina DK, immediately turns to sorcs are op thread. GJ persons.

Aedaryl

Prothwata wrote: »

Person posts a video specifically about Stamina DK, immediately turns to sorcs are op thread. GJ persons.

I'm sorry for that too, say thx to Valencer, instead of arguing in why he think stam dk is not OP, he prefer said "lol you are sorc". This is a good way to say "you are right, but I can't admit it, so I will try to say you are more OP than me, because
the bigger it is, the more it's acceptable"

I keep answer because I can't see people make misinformation about the sorcerer. Seriously, people don't know how (expacially pet one) sorc work and keep telling wrong things

Ocelot9x

Stam dk are better because blocking? Yeah,you block a lot with the standard setup 2hand bow. Talking about passives templar have 8% less incoming damage= tankier and that's a FACT. I said Stam sorc have way more DMG,way more sustain (you seems to forget all sorc passives) and as I said,more healing WHEN GOING ON OFFENSIVE,so learn2read. Also,you can't give orders to pets on consoles. Pet builds suck in cyrodiils,especially if you push your build to the limits aka 1vX but are great in 1v1 encounters. A classical build sorc is way better open world. But yeah, I think it's useless to argue with someone who has clearly no clue on how high end PvP in cyrodiil works.

crusnik91

Vapirko wrote: »

crusnik91 wrote: »

We had fun while it lasted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE1L_FzIPpE

I'll drink to that. Here's to the future of getting mages wrath spammed.

Cheers mate! already feeling the increase amount of magicka sorc from pvp-ing today

D0ntevenL1ft

Aedaryl wrote: »

Prothwata wrote: »

Person posts a video specifically about Stamina DK, immediately turns to sorcs are op thread. GJ persons.

I'm sorry for that too, say thx to Valencer, instead of arguing in why he think stam dk is not OP, he prefer said "lol you are sorc". This is a good way to say "you are right, but I can't admit it, so I will try to say you are more OP than me, because
the bigger it is, the more it's acceptable"

I keep answer because I can't see people make misinformation about the sorcerer. Seriously, people don't know how (expacially pet one) sorc work and keep telling wrong things

Lol how many people have to tell you that you're wrong until you finally understand; I'm starting to feel sorry for you.

Aedaryl

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Stam dk are better because blocking? Yeah,you block a lot with the standard setup 2hand bow. Talking about passives templar have 8% less incoming damage= tankier and that's a FACT. I said Stam sorc have way more DMG,way more sustain (you seems to forget all sorc passives) and as I said,more healing WHEN GOING ON OFFENSIVE,so learn2read. Also,you can't give orders to pets on consoles. Pet builds suck in cyrodiils,especially if you push your build to the limits aka 1vX but are great in 1v1 encounters. A classical build sorc is way better open world. But yeah, I think it's useless to argue with someone who has clearly no clue on how high end PvP in cyrodiil works.

The standard setup, at least in EU PC, is like the guy in the video is 2h/S&B, because it's just better for a dk, yeah, dk can tank better, and so, are better, because they sustain better than others while blocking, and blocking an attack is > than taking 8% less damage to it

Sorc hasn't way more sustain, it's actually quite hard to be OOS on dk, it's stupid to compare 2 infinite sustain classes, but again, dk sustain is more effective because it's passive sustain, while sorc sustain is under conditions like LoS, active skill.

You don't know the pet sorc, don't speak about it pls.

Classical sorc is better in large 1vX ways, but on PC, pet sorc can be also great in small scale ( hello battleground). Don't speak about how pet sorc perform, because you don't know how it work and you are not able to make it work

Ocelot9x

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Stam dk are better because blocking? Yeah,you block a lot with the standard setup 2hand bow. Talking about passives templar have 8% less incoming damage= tankier and that's a FACT. I said Stam sorc have way more DMG,way more sustain (you seems to forget all sorc passives) and as I said,more healing WHEN GOING ON OFFENSIVE,so learn2read. Also,you can't give orders to pets on consoles. Pet builds suck in cyrodiils,especially if you push your build to the limits aka 1vX but are great in 1v1 encounters. A classical build sorc is way better open world. But yeah, I think it's useless to argue with someone who has clearly no clue on how high end PvP in cyrodiil works.

The standard setup, at least in EU PC, is like the guy in the video is 2h/S&B, because it's just better for a dk, yeah, dk can tank better, and so, are better, because they sustain better than others while blocking, and blocking an attack is > than taking 8% less damage to it

Sorc hasn't way more sustain, it's actually quite hard to be OOS on dk, it's stupid to compare 2 infinite sustain classes, but again, dk sustain is more effective because it's passive sustain, while sorc sustain is under conditions like LoS, active skill.

You don't know the pet sorc, don't speak about it pls.

Classical sorc is better in large 1vX ways, but on PC, pet sorc can be also great in small scale ( hello battleground). Don't speak about how pet sorc perform, because you don't know how it work and you are not able to make it work

Well,I just have no interest in playing a class with 2 active skill pet sorc learning curve is almost a line so please.
Instead you should stop talking about stamina,since you seems to have never played a stamina class. Stam dk can block better,but with the standard stamina setup you don't block. Going with shield will make you lose ton of damage and you will be forced to play passively while waiting for a change to burst with your ulti,but it's not a reliable play style vs good players (not in this meta).

Darnathian

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Stam dk are better because blocking? Yeah,you block a lot with the standard setup 2hand bow. Talking about passives templar have 8% less incoming damage= tankier and that's a FACT. I said Stam sorc have way more DMG,way more sustain (you seems to forget all sorc passives) and as I said,more healing WHEN GOING ON OFFENSIVE,so learn2read. Also,you can't give orders to pets on consoles. Pet builds suck in cyrodiils,especially if you push your build to the limits aka 1vX but are great in 1v1 encounters. A classical build sorc is way better open world. But yeah, I think it's useless to argue with someone who has clearly no clue on how high end PvP in cyrodiil works.

The standard setup, at least in EU PC, is like the guy in the video is 2h/S&B, because it's just better for a dk, yeah, dk can tank better, and so, are better, because they sustain better than others while blocking, and blocking an attack is > than taking 8% less damage to it

Sorc hasn't way more sustain, it's actually quite hard to be OOS on dk, it's stupid to compare 2 infinite sustain classes, but again, dk sustain is more effective because it's passive sustain, while sorc sustain is under conditions like LoS, active skill.

You don't know the pet sorc, don't speak about it pls.

Classical sorc is better in large 1vX ways, but on PC, pet sorc can be also great in small scale ( hello battleground). Don't speak about how pet sorc perform, because you don't know how it work and you are not able to make it work

Dude. No one cares. Stop hijacking a good thread.

OP. Nice vid.

olsborg

Many of us has played OP classes, its fun while it lasts, its just abit sad that ZOS spends months balancing it out again. Looks like magicka sorc will be on #1 again, the shame is that they have always been atleast top #2. ZOS and their balance:)

Sidenote: Nice vid.

Aedaryl

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Stam dk are better because blocking? Yeah,you block a lot with the standard setup 2hand bow. Talking about passives templar have 8% less incoming damage= tankier and that's a FACT. I said Stam sorc have way more DMG,way more sustain (you seems to forget all sorc passives) and as I said,more healing WHEN GOING ON OFFENSIVE,so learn2read. Also,you can't give orders to pets on consoles. Pet builds suck in cyrodiils,especially if you push your build to the limits aka 1vX but are great in 1v1 encounters. A classical build sorc is way better open world. But yeah, I think it's useless to argue with someone who has clearly no clue on how high end PvP in cyrodiil works.

The standard setup, at least in EU PC, is like the guy in the video is 2h/S&B, because it's just better for a dk, yeah, dk can tank better, and so, are better, because they sustain better than others while blocking, and blocking an attack is > than taking 8% less damage to it

Sorc hasn't way more sustain, it's actually quite hard to be OOS on dk, it's stupid to compare 2 infinite sustain classes, but again, dk sustain is more effective because it's passive sustain, while sorc sustain is under conditions like LoS, active skill.

You don't know the pet sorc, don't speak about it pls.

Classical sorc is better in large 1vX ways, but on PC, pet sorc can be also great in small scale ( hello battleground). Don't speak about how pet sorc perform, because you don't know how it work and you are not able to make it work

Well,I just have no interest in playing a class with 2 active skill pet sorc learning curve is almost a line so please.
Instead you should stop talking about stamina,since you seems to have never played a stamina class. Stam dk can block better,but with the standard stamina setup you don't block. Going with shield will make you lose ton of damage and you will be forced to play passively while waiting for a change to burst with your ulti,but it's not a reliable play style vs good players (not in this meta).

It's wrong, again, pet sorc sorc learning curve is one of the hardest, because you need to manage 2 pets. And also, one hand and shield is the meta, at least in EU pc, and having 2h + 1h&S is not lost all damage ( it's just not having poison injection), and again, it's the best way to play stam dk, the video just proove it, you don't know how to play stam dk, so don't argue about it


Darnathian If no one care, why keep telling wrong thing about the DK and the sorc ? Tell other to not say BS, and I will not answer

Micah_Bayer

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Ocelot9x wrote: »

Stam dk are better because blocking? Yeah,you block a lot with the standard setup 2hand bow. Talking about passives templar have 8% less incoming damage= tankier and that's a FACT. I said Stam sorc have way more DMG,way more sustain (you seems to forget all sorc passives) and as I said,more healing WHEN GOING ON OFFENSIVE,so learn2read. Also,you can't give orders to pets on consoles. Pet builds suck in cyrodiils,especially if you push your build to the limits aka 1vX but are great in 1v1 encounters. A classical build sorc is way better open world. But yeah, I think it's useless to argue with someone who has clearly no clue on how high end PvP in cyrodiil works.

The standard setup, at least in EU PC, is like the guy in the video is 2h/S&B, because it's just better for a dk, yeah, dk can tank better, and so, are better, because they sustain better than others while blocking, and blocking an attack is > than taking 8% less damage to it

Sorc hasn't way more sustain, it's actually quite hard to be OOS on dk, it's stupid to compare 2 infinite sustain classes, but again, dk sustain is more effective because it's passive sustain, while sorc sustain is under conditions like LoS, active skill.

You don't know the pet sorc, don't speak about it pls.

Classical sorc is better in large 1vX ways, but on PC, pet sorc can be also great in small scale ( hello battleground). Don't speak about how pet sorc perform, because you don't know how it work and you are not able to make it work

Well,I just have no interest in playing a class with 2 active skill pet sorc learning curve is almost a line so please.
Instead you should stop talking about stamina,since you seems to have never played a stamina class. Stam dk can block better,but with the standard stamina setup you don't block. Going with shield will make you lose ton of damage and you will be forced to play passively while waiting for a change to burst with your ulti,but it's not a reliable play style vs good players (not in this meta).

It's wrong, again, pet sorc sorc learning curve is one of the hardest, because you need to manage 2 pets. And also, one hand and shield is the meta, at least in EU pc, and having 2h + 1h&S is not lost all damage ( it's just not having poison injection), and again, it's the best way to play stam dk, the video just proove it, you don't know how to play stam dk, so don't argue about it


Darnathian If no one care, why keep telling wrong thing about the DK and the sorc ? Tell other to not say BS, and I will not answer

Preach. Mag sorcerer and pet sorcerer are op..give me a break -_- keep at it my brother and fight the heathens who say our class is op