Sorc OP

Moglijuana

JK, don't let them shields slip



#MagDK4Lyfe

Biro123

And if your 12k shield could be crit (like people are asking for), this would go..:

1. Shield gon, 11k dmg to health.
2. re-shield
3. shield gone 11k dmg to health = dead.

(ofc thats a bit of an exaggeration as I'm guessing this was from stealth and probably empowered too - but I didn't add any abilities either.. however its an illustration of how useless crittable shields would be)

Moglijuana

Biro123 wrote: »

And if your 12k shield could be crit (like people are asking for), this would go..:

1. Shield gon, 11k dmg to health.
2. re-shield
3. shield gone 11k dmg to health = dead.

(ofc thats a bit of an exaggeration as I'm guessing this was from stealth and probably empowered too - but I didn't add any abilities either.. however its an illustration of how useless crittable shields would be)

Not empowered (I don't have mages guild leveled on that toon XD ) or from stealth haha. I think he may have been running all divines and I just popped him as his shield expired.

FlyLionel

Well you're good to go come June lol, nice..And yeah sorcs without shields, no bueno.

Dk_needs_a_buff

I have a magic sorc and hes no better than any of my otger characters.

If you cant burst through a sorcs shields then sorry guys you need more dps.it isnt hard to burts them

Delorion

these damage numbers are pretty Normal if you build for it on my Dunmer DK with molten Armaments ,queens elegeance set and max points into staff and elemental expert i sometimes hit higher than that if i crit .

..^^

Wreuntzylla

I saw a leetle gurly man in a dress running towards me. Then I said HAHA leetle gurly man starting to heavy attack me! Mr. dress going to tickle me to death!

Now I am a leetle gurly man in a dress.

Malic

So OP would you be willing to pay say $75.00 for a better ESO experience?

I ask because, you know money talks pal.

Moglijuana

Malic wrote: »

So OP would you be willing to pay say $75.00 for a better ESO experience?

I ask because, you know money talks pal.

No. I'm done giving Money to ZOS.

Zander98

To everyone who thinks shields should be critable...
Ok. I can get on board with that. So long as, for balance purposes, I can crit cast a shield adding my crit modifier to the shield amount, as it is an active ability.
There. Now we're all even.

Moglijuana

Zander98 wrote: »

To everyone who thinks shields should be critable...
Ok. I can get on board with that. So long as, for balance purposes, I can crit cast a shield adding my crit modifier to the shield amount, as it is an active ability.
There. Now we're all even.

This post wasn't meant to say Sorc/Shields are OP (it was sarcasm). I think shields are fine. Shields won't help you if you can't keep them up anyways, hence this post lol.

Cathexis

Logged onto tf yesterday, ran a healing build and we pushed Methuselah's group back. Played it pretty well. Sure enough, calls in zone about sorc heals being op.

Just because someone plays a build well doesn't make it overpowered. I would like to see half the players who call for nerfs about certain builds play them half as well as the players they claim are running "op builds." Perhaps maybe players need to face the idea that maybe the reason you are dieing is because you didnt enter the situation correctly, and not because you are the best player ever and if someone beats you it must be they are overpowered.

The source of pvp turning into garbage is players with very little experience or missing insight coming on and making the assumption that they understand the math when they really don't, and applying the expectation that "well I know that this should be this way and if a player beats me, well thats obviously overpowered" without any math or evidence that actually backs it up. Its the reason why we have unkillable builds or builds with obviously slanted and circumstantial counters that favour the play style.

If you died to a sorc, it is because you did not adequately prepare for fighting a sorc. That is a standard rule for any situation. The only time there is a margin for argument is when you have some *** paradigm like needing poisons to beat block builds - where one side is required to expend resources to beat the other which is not. That is a real problem, because it is tilting the game economics to favor a particular side.

Moglijuana

Cathexis wrote: »

Logged onto tf yesterday, ran a healing build and we pushed Methuselah's group back. Played it pretty well. Sure enough, calls in zone about sorc heals being op.

Just because someone plays a build well doesn't make it overpowered. I would like to see half the players who call for nerfs about certain builds play them half as well as the players they claim are running "op builds." Perhaps maybe players need to face the idea that maybe the reason you are dieing is because you didnt enter the situation correctly, and not because you are the best player ever and if someone beats you it must be they are overpowered.

The source of pvp turning into garbage is players with very little experience or missing insight coming on and making the assumption that they understand the math when they really don't, and applying the expectation that "well I know that this should be this way and if a player beats me, well thats obviously overpowered" without any math or evidence that actually backs it up. Its the reason why we have unkillable builds or builds with obviously slanted and circumstantial counters that favour the play style.

Uh, what? This wasn't a post of me complaining lol. More so a post of me one shotting people bc they didn't pay attention

Cathexis

Moglijuana wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

Logged onto tf yesterday, ran a healing build and we pushed Methuselah's group back. Played it pretty well. Sure enough, calls in zone about sorc heals being op.

Just because someone plays a build well doesn't make it overpowered. I would like to see half the players who call for nerfs about certain builds play them half as well as the players they claim are running "op builds." Perhaps maybe players need to face the idea that maybe the reason you are dieing is because you didnt enter the situation correctly, and not because you are the best player ever and if someone beats you it must be they are overpowered.

The source of pvp turning into garbage is players with very little experience or missing insight coming on and making the assumption that they understand the math when they really don't, and applying the expectation that "well I know that this should be this way and if a player beats me, well thats obviously overpowered" without any math or evidence that actually backs it up. Its the reason why we have unkillable builds or builds with obviously slanted and circumstantial counters that favour the play style.

Uh, what? This wasn't a post of me complaining lol. More so a post of me one shotting people bc they didn't pay attention

Yeah but if you open with sorc op as your header, Im going to rake on you anyway.

Also by your rules now I can say jk this was a post about railing on trolls and that makes it legit.

Moglijuana

Cathexis wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

Logged onto tf yesterday, ran a healing build and we pushed Methuselah's group back. Played it pretty well. Sure enough, calls in zone about sorc heals being op.

Just because someone plays a build well doesn't make it overpowered. I would like to see half the players who call for nerfs about certain builds play them half as well as the players they claim are running "op builds." Perhaps maybe players need to face the idea that maybe the reason you are dieing is because you didnt enter the situation correctly, and not because you are the best player ever and if someone beats you it must be they are overpowered.

The source of pvp turning into garbage is players with very little experience or missing insight coming on and making the assumption that they understand the math when they really don't, and applying the expectation that "well I know that this should be this way and if a player beats me, well thats obviously overpowered" without any math or evidence that actually backs it up. Its the reason why we have unkillable builds or builds with obviously slanted and circumstantial counters that favour the play style.

Uh, what? This wasn't a post of me complaining lol. More so a post of me one shotting people bc they didn't pay attention

Yeah but if you open with sorc op as your header, Im going to rake on you anyway.

Also by your rules now I can say jk this was a post about railing on trolls and that makes it legit.

There you go =D.

Sarcasm is a bit hard to read through text, my b lol.