Alternative MDK builds???

Moglijuana

Decided to race change my unloved Stam DK over to MDK to try some "non-meta" builds out. Anyone have any builds they have been thinking of but don't feel like committing the effort to test them out? I'll try them for you if I like the look of them! Give em to me

Currently I'm thinking of going 5pc Elegant/3 Willpower/Mael Inferno/Master Lightning/Slimecraw for some cheesy H.A. kills =P.

Side Note* My main is my bae MDK and is all golded out so he will stay as is since it's OP.

AverageJo3Gam3r

Necro+BSW+shadowrend w/ DW? Could massive shields makeup for using two damage sets? Never bothered farming/buying the sharpened swords to try it out.

Bashev

Moglijuana wrote: »

Decided to race change my unloved Stam DK over to MDK to try some "non-meta" builds out. Anyone have any builds they have been thinking of but don't feel like committing the effort to test them out? I'll try them for you if I like the look of them! Give em to me

Currently I'm thinking of going 5pc Elegant/3 Willpower/Mael Inferno/Master Lightning/Slimecraw for some cheesy H.A. kills =P.

Side Note* My main is my bae MDK and is all golded out so he will stay as is since it's OP.

If somebody shield stacks, put shield breaker and use the lighting staff. He/She will curse you.

Moglijuana

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

Necro+BSW+shadowrend w/ DW? Could massive shields makeup for using two damage sets? Never bothered farming/buying the sharpened swords to try it out.

Ooooooh, haven't thought about shadowrend with necro. I'll farm that helm tonight!

CMurder435

@Moglijuana


5 beckoning steel
5 nikulas
2 bloodspawn..

So fun if you have 2-4 man group.. Hold block and wings and absorb mag and I used 1h and shield reflect ulti with my banner of might on the back bar so that all the ranged spam is intercepted..reflected..empowered by Dragon scales and then the empower from banner. Gonna be dependent on ur crew and if you zerg then there's no reason to not just spam offensive chaotic junk with the other guys..But really really satisfying for myself when I had 2 buddies vs that zest. All the guys buffin/empowering bow attacks and overloads etc..lol it was classic

Support setup but i thought it would classify as alt build so

Moglijuana

CMurder435 wrote: »

@Moglijuana


5 beckoning steel
5 nikulas
2 bloodspawn..

So fun if you have 2-4 man group.. Hold block and wings and absorb mag and I used 1h and shield reflect ulti with my banner of might on the back bar so that all the ranged spam is intercepted..reflected..empowered by Dragon scales and then the empower from banner. Gonna be dependent on ur crew and if you zerg then there's no reason to not just spam offensive chaotic junk with the other guys..But really really satisfying for myself when I had 2 buddies vs that zest. All the guys buffin/empowering bow attacks and overloads etc..lol it was classic

Support setup but i thought it would classify as alt build so

Wow, that's actually kind of genius haha.

Pallio

Heavy attacks build is all that is left. The end

AverageJo3Gam3r

@Moglijuana any results from early testing?

Moglijuana

AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »

@Moglijuana any results from early testing?

I tried shadowrend with necro + bsw...It's actually really good 1v1...open world? Nothing amazing. The pet didn't seem to be up when I needed it most leaving my stats kind of low when in a pinch (I wish DK's had some stat increase passives like other classes).

I also tried destro/lightning staff with elegant netting me a bunch of hilarious kills lol. Nothing like a 15k destro into a undodgeable lightning heavy for the execute lol. The defensive options with that are kind of difficult though.

Which in turn led me to use pirate skeleton for the first time on a MDK and holy cow! I think I figured out how to be a frontline, light armor wearing, destro build that can kill at will lol (no destro ult needed). May keep heading that direction in prep for Morrowind nerfs.

NBrookus

Pure paper theory; prob won't work next patch if the changes stand as is, but have a go if you want:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=12047

Zander98

Mdks should really look close at the alt mastery set. Jewelry, one light and weapon...
Not only does it help with cost mit only 2% less than seducers, it also makes your ults 6% cheaper....along with block, CC break, everything if the patch notes are right and the fixed it.

Moglijuana

NBrookus wrote: »

Pure paper theory; prob won't work next patch if the changes stand as is, but have a go if you want:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=12047

Ha, that's pretty similar to what I plan on running next patch . I prefer Pirate Skeleton/Bloodspawn over Slimecraw though. You don't need any regen for staff builds btw, also Willpower is better than ancient grace if you're under 42ish max mag.

NBrookus

Moglijuana wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Pure paper theory; prob won't work next patch if the changes stand as is, but have a go if you want:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=12047

Ha, that's pretty similar to what I plan on running next patch . I prefer Pirate Skeleton/Bloodspawn over Slimecraw though. You don't need any regen for staff builds btw, also Willpower is better than ancient grace if you're under 42ish max mag.

Yeah it's not tweaked; I was just toying around. I think Slimecraw has a lot of potential. If I went with a non-Bloodspawn defense set, I'd prob choose Chudan over Pirate. I don't like praying to RNGesus in combat. And yes I know I could cast VA, but freeing up a skill slot is precious. And Bloodspawn may no longer be BiS for DKs with the Battle Roar nerf.

Moglijuana

NBrookus wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Pure paper theory; prob won't work next patch if the changes stand as is, but have a go if you want:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=12047

Ha, that's pretty similar to what I plan on running next patch . I prefer Pirate Skeleton/Bloodspawn over Slimecraw though. You don't need any regen for staff builds btw, also Willpower is better than ancient grace if you're under 42ish max mag.

Yeah it's not tweaked; I was just toying around. I think Slimecraw has a lot of potential. If I went with a non-Bloodspawn defense set, I'd prob choose Chudan over Pirate. I don't like praying to RNGesus in combat. And yes I know I could cast VA, but freeing up a skill slot is precious. And Bloodspawn may no longer be BiS for DKs with the Battle Roar nerf.

YO. I FORGOT ABOUT CHUDAN OMG. And yea I don't like RNG either, but I can usually mist form around until that baby procs and then go to work

Quantum_V

Moglijuana wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Pure paper theory; prob won't work next patch if the changes stand as is, but have a go if you want:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=12047

Ha, that's pretty similar to what I plan on running next patch . I prefer Pirate Skeleton/Bloodspawn over Slimecraw though. You don't need any regen for staff builds btw, also Willpower is better than ancient grace if you're under 42ish max mag.

Yeah it's not tweaked; I was just toying around. I think Slimecraw has a lot of potential. If I went with a non-Bloodspawn defense set, I'd prob choose Chudan over Pirate. I don't like praying to RNGesus in combat. And yes I know I could cast VA, but freeing up a skill slot is precious. And Bloodspawn may no longer be BiS for DKs with the Battle Roar nerf.

YO. I FORGOT ABOUT CHUDAN OMG. And yea I don't like RNG either, but I can usually mist form around until that baby procs and then go to work

I tested Chudan, it's pretty bad... Maybe it'll change next patch, but currently it's meh...

Ghostbane

5 x Alteration Mastery
5 x BSW / Sun
2 x Bloodspawn

Playing with this at the moment.

WillhelmBlack

Tried many but I made a very special build from an Infused Elegant lightning staff that proc'd 5500 fire damage. I don't want to disclose the full build as it's pure aids. The perfect zergling build.

I hope the 'infused' bit gives it away to the theory crafters out there though. It's not too hard to figure out and once you've tried it you will laugh your ass off. 1 button wonder.

D0ntevenL1ft

Zander98 wrote: »

Mdks should really look close at the alt mastery set. Jewelry, one light and weapon...
Not only does it help with cost mit only 2% less than seducers, it also makes your ults 6% cheaper....along with block, CC break, everything if the patch notes are right and the fixed it.

All of this is true except for reducing block cost

Bashev

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Zander98 wrote: »

Mdks should really look close at the alt mastery set. Jewelry, one light and weapon...
Not only does it help with cost mit only 2% less than seducers, it also makes your ults 6% cheaper....along with block, CC break, everything if the patch notes are right and the fixed it.

All of this is true except for reducing block cost

It will reduce the block next patch too.

CMurder435

Moglijuana wrote: »

CMurder435 wrote: »

@Moglijuana


5 beckoning steel
5 nikulas
2 bloodspawn..

So fun if you have 2-4 man group.. Hold block and wings and absorb mag and I used 1h and shield reflect ulti with my banner of might on the back bar so that all the ranged spam is intercepted..reflected..empowered by Dragon scales and then the empower from banner. Gonna be dependent on ur crew and if you zerg then there's no reason to not just spam offensive chaotic junk with the other guys..But really really satisfying for myself when I had 2 buddies vs that zest. All the guys buffin/empowering bow attacks and overloads etc..lol it was classic

Support setup but i thought it would classify as alt build so

Wow, that's actually kind of genius haha.

Thanks mog

D0ntevenL1ft

Bashev wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Zander98 wrote: »

Mdks should really look close at the alt mastery set. Jewelry, one light and weapon...
Not only does it help with cost mit only 2% less than seducers, it also makes your ults 6% cheaper....along with block, CC break, everything if the patch notes are right and the fixed it.

All of this is true except for reducing block cost

It will reduce the block next patch too.

It doesn't reduce it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYATBJ8WK4s

Bashev

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Bashev wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Zander98 wrote: »

Mdks should really look close at the alt mastery set. Jewelry, one light and weapon...
Not only does it help with cost mit only 2% less than seducers, it also makes your ults 6% cheaper....along with block, CC break, everything if the patch notes are right and the fixed it.

All of this is true except for reducing block cost

It will reduce the block next patch too.

It doesn't reduce it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYATBJ8WK4s

I know. That is why I said it will. I just dont know is it multiplicative or additive bonus to the other passives.

Moglijuana

Ghostbane wrote: »

5 x Alteration Mastery
5 x BSW / Sun
2 x Bloodspawn

Playing with this at the moment.

I've been using BSW/SUN/Bloodspawn this whole patch, but yea might have to switch one of those to a sustain set next patch.

Zander98

I've always loved alt mastery since 1.4. Only thing about it, since I main a magical sorc, no max magical on the set bonuses can hit my builds.
But it makes sense it doesn't have any, since it would then be superior to seducers in every way. At least IMO.
If you think about it the 5 piece is only 4% off from the potentates bonus.
I do hope they fix the blocking cost mit.

Takes-No-Prisoner

Moglijuana wrote: »

Which in turn led me to use pirate skeleton for the first time on a MDK and holy cow! I think I figured out how to be a frontline, light armor wearing, destro build that can kill at will lol (no destro ult needed). May keep heading that direction in prep for Morrowind nerfs.

I'd like to try that kind of build out if I get pirate skelly shoulder piece.

Fjorynn

Moglijuana wrote: »

Decided to race change my unloved Stam DK over to MDK to try some "non-meta" builds out. Anyone have any builds they have been thinking of but don't feel like committing the effort to test them out? I'll try them for you if I like the look of them! Give em to me

Currently I'm thinking of going 5pc Elegant/3 Willpower/Mael Inferno/Master Lightning/Slimecraw for some cheesy H.A. kills =P.

Side Note* My main is my bae MDK and is all golded out so he will stay as is since it's OP.

I currently run 5 Elegant, 5 Clever Alchemist and 1 Kena on my magDK. Hits hard, sometimes even one shots. The idea behind the build is to buff up with Molten Armaments, proc CA, proc empower from mages guild, heavy attack then stone giant. If the target is still alive just do a light attack + force pulse. Invisibility potions synergise very well with the build.

The build:

http://eso-skills.com/skill/?z=ADPlySu8@DQpJ210%DIPcECu@DJMTUnW&c=Fjorynn&j=t

Ingredients for the potion:

Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot. Gives Major Expedition and vanishes you.

Thinking of getting Undaunted Infiltrator at some point.

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Undaunted+Infiltrator+Set

WhoThenNow7

Fjorynn wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Decided to race change my unloved Stam DK over to MDK to try some "non-meta" builds out. Anyone have any builds they have been thinking of but don't feel like committing the effort to test them out? I'll try them for you if I like the look of them! Give em to me

Currently I'm thinking of going 5pc Elegant/3 Willpower/Mael Inferno/Master Lightning/Slimecraw for some cheesy H.A. kills =P.

Side Note* My main is my bae MDK and is all golded out so he will stay as is since it's OP.

I currently run 5 Elegant, 5 Clever Alchemist and 1 Kena on my magDK. Hits hard, sometimes even one shots. The idea behind the build is to buff up with Molten Armaments, proc CA, proc empower from mages guild, heavy attack then stone giant. If the target is still alive just do a light attack + force pulse. Invisibility potions synergise very well with the build.

The build:

http://eso-skills.com/skill/?z=ADPlySu8@DQpJ210%DIPcECu@DJMTUnW&c=Fjorynn&j=t

Ingredients for the potion:

Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot. Gives Major Expedition and vanishes you.

Thinking of getting Undaunted Infiltrator at some point.

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Undaunted+Infiltrator+Set

What is the 2nd skill on your back bar?

NBrookus

WhoThenNow7 wrote: »

Fjorynn wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

Decided to race change my unloved Stam DK over to MDK to try some "non-meta" builds out. Anyone have any builds they have been thinking of but don't feel like committing the effort to test them out? I'll try them for you if I like the look of them! Give em to me

Currently I'm thinking of going 5pc Elegant/3 Willpower/Mael Inferno/Master Lightning/Slimecraw for some cheesy H.A. kills =P.

Side Note* My main is my bae MDK and is all golded out so he will stay as is since it's OP.

I currently run 5 Elegant, 5 Clever Alchemist and 1 Kena on my magDK. Hits hard, sometimes even one shots. The idea behind the build is to buff up with Molten Armaments, proc CA, proc empower from mages guild, heavy attack then stone giant. If the target is still alive just do a light attack + force pulse. Invisibility potions synergise very well with the build.

The build:

http://eso-skills.com/skill/?z=ADPlySu8@DQpJ210%DIPcECu@DJMTUnW&c=Fjorynn&j=t

Ingredients for the potion:

Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot. Gives Major Expedition and vanishes you.

Thinking of getting Undaunted Infiltrator at some point.

http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Undaunted+Infiltrator+Set

What is the 2nd skill on your back bar?

Dampen Magicka... the other morph instead of Harness Magicka.

Anne_Firehawk

1. 5 Rattlecage + 5 BSW/Sun + 1 Shadowrend + 1 Chokethorn + Atro Mundus + 2 Regen/1 SD

2. 5 Seducer + 5 BSW + Charged Lightning with Shock enchant backbar + 2 Bloodspawn + Thief Mundus + 2 SD/1 Regen for infinite Powerlashes

3. 5 Blackrose + 5 Magicka Furnace + 2 Bloodspawn + Thief Mundus + 2 Cost Reduction/1 SD for infinite Sustain

4.5 Rattlecage + 5 Kagrenacs Hope + 2 Grothdarr/Bloodspawn + Atro Mundus + 1/2 Regen/1/2 SD quite balanced Setup

They are all 5h/1l/1m, tried all of them since 1T