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Is MDK really new meta?
br0steen
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I've seen and heard people say this quite a bit recently, but I don't see a whole lot of mag dks running around (na xb1). In fact I see way more sorcs and Templars.
Just curious what the consensus is, I made a mag dk right after the dragons blood buff but it was mainly because I got bored with stam dk.
Just curious what the consensus is, I made a mag dk right after the dragons blood buff but it was mainly because I got bored with stam dk.
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KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.3 -
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✭✭✭✭Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Furthermore, mDK doesn't have the tools to beat an equally skilled mag sorc right now and will have a terrible time trying to kill a skilled magplar, although the magplar won't have the tools to kill the mDK either without someone really messing up.7 -
br0steen✭✭✭✭I would agree, I think mag dk is difficult to play, especially if you are used to playing stam characters in PvP.1
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KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
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Yea a magdk vs magplar fight is pretty boring to watch like to walls hitting each other.Magsorc even worst you pretty much give them endless sustain because all your dots give them magic back thanks to harness.Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Furthermore, mDK doesn't have the tools to beat an equally skilled mag sorc right now and will have a terrible time trying to kill a skilled magplar, although the magplar won't have the tools to kill the mDK either without someone really messing up.
Maybe if they change harness to not absorb dots could help magic dk.3 -
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Yea a magdk vs magplar fight is pretty boring to watch like to walls hitting each other.Magsorc even worst you pretty much give them endless sustain because all your dots give them magic back thanks to harness.Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Furthermore, mDK doesn't have the tools to beat an equally skilled mag sorc right now and will have a terrible time trying to kill a skilled magplar, although the magplar won't have the tools to kill the mDK either without someone really messing up.
Maybe if they change harness to not absorb dots could help magic dk.
Even if you were, for some reason, running dampen on a mag sorc, mDK still can't break that shield stack 1v1 and has 0 counter curse+fury+crushing shock. mSorc just possess all the tools to counter mDK while also having a stronger kit in general.Edited by Lexxypwns on 6 April 2017 15:444 -
a1i3nz✭✭✭✭Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Furthermore, mDK doesn't have the tools to beat an equally skilled mag sorc right now and will have a terrible time trying to kill a skilled magplar, although the magplar won't have the tools to kill the mDK either without someone really messing up.
Magplar had the tools...until they took away our stun now most people running bane or total dark which are situational af
Magsorc meta for sure can't say how many times I get hit with curse or wrath every time I'm running from a zerg0 -
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Yea a magdk vs magplar fight is pretty boring to watch like to walls hitting each other.Magsorc even worst you pretty much give them endless sustain because all your dots give them magic back thanks to harness.Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Furthermore, mDK doesn't have the tools to beat an equally skilled mag sorc right now and will have a terrible time trying to kill a skilled magplar, although the magplar won't have the tools to kill the mDK either without someone really messing up.
Maybe if they change harness to not absorb dots could help magic dk.
They need to change harness altogether. The magicka return is too OP. sorcs are really the only ones who can run it practically because every other light armor user will benefit more from dampen because harness is such a small shield and damage is so high. It makes me not even want to fight sorcs because I know all my abilities will give them enough magicka to keep their shields up 100% of the time. As a magicka user their is no way to break through a sorcs shields if they are playing properly. As long as they build enough Stam regen you can't even pressure their stamina pool. It's not just mag dk's every magicka class complains about sorcs. A mag sorc is now basically a soft counter to mag dk2 -
KingJ✭✭✭✭✭
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This is now a nerf mag sorc thread lol.thankyourat wrote: »
Yea a magdk vs magplar fight is pretty boring to watch like to walls hitting each other.Magsorc even worst you pretty much give them endless sustain because all your dots give them magic back thanks to harness.Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Furthermore, mDK doesn't have the tools to beat an equally skilled mag sorc right now and will have a terrible time trying to kill a skilled magplar, although the magplar won't have the tools to kill the mDK either without someone really messing up.
Maybe if they change harness to not absorb dots could help magic dk.
They need to change harness altogether. The magicka return is too OP. sorcs are really the only ones who can run it practically because every other light armor user will benefit more from dampen because harness is such a small shield and damage is so high. It makes me not even want to fight sorcs because I know all my abilities will give them enough magicka to keep their shields up 100% of the time. As a magicka user their is no way to break through a sorcs shields if they are playing properly. As long as they build enough Stam regen you can't even pressure their stamina pool. It's not just mag dk's every magicka class complains about sorcs. A mag sorc is now basically a soft counter to mag dk
I agree the magic return is just ridiculous and needs to be tone down or make it so they can't stack it with hardened magica.0 -
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✭✭✭I laughed so hard when I saw all the people on xb lvling mdk saying it's going to be the new meta bc a slight healing buff and a small whip damage increase. For like a week or two there was a ton of mdk but they where very bad and had no clue how to play they quickly gave up after realizing that mdk was not op nor meta.
Way more sorcs and templars. Mdks are in a better spot and if you where use to playing them before the "buffs" then they feel better but with the nerf to wings and the up coming nerf to the cp tree mdks will be back to trash in open world pvp.
Seems the only thing a mdk should do now is duels it's about the only thing in pvp the class is good at.1 -
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Hey at least it wasn't two sorc encase spamming you back to back.thankyourat wrote: »0 -
Smmokkee✭✭✭✭✭Notice we are talking about only magicka clases.
mDK, mTemp, mSorc all run Cyrodiil. It's the magicka mafia. To be completely honest never in any games pvp have I seen so many tanks that forgot they were tanks. Anyone who enjoys this pvp must be in a group of 10+ magicka players healing and blocking there asses off until they get their destro ults charged.
Compare these magicka classes to a stam nb in medium using a 2h/bow and we all can just laugh.1 -
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Hey at least it wasn't two sorc encase spamming you back to back.thankyourat wrote: »
It's a couple 40k health sorc tanks that chase me down all the time constantly putting me in encase until I'm out of stamina and then they drop a negate on me. I literally can't do anything about it but die and try to avoid them next timeNotice we are talking about only magicka clases.
mDK, mTemp, mSorc all run Cyrodiil. It's the magicka mafia. To be completely honest never in any games pvp have I seen so many tanks that forgot they were tanks. Anyone who enjoys this pvp must be in a group of 10+ magicka players healing and blocking there asses off until they get their destro ults charged.
Compare these magicka classes to a stam nb in medium using a 2h/bow and we all can just laugh.
That because light and medium suck in PvP. magicka is better for zerging because of BoL, Roots cost magicka, and the destro ultimate. If you like zerg play there is no reason to play stamina. Stamina is good for 1v1 and solo PvP2 -
Moglijuana✭✭✭✭✭Nope not meta. Thank the nine! The few that tried at the beginning of Homestead were annoying enough. With direct counters such as Magplar & Magsorc, MDK's dropped a bit in popularity once easier class builds were found. But that's the life of a meta chaser I guess.FloppyTouch wrote: »I laughed so hard when I saw all the people on xb lvling mdk saying it's going to be the new meta bc a slight healing buff and a small whip damage increase. For like a week or two there was a ton of mdk but they where very bad and had no clue how to play they quickly gave up after realizing that mdk was not op nor meta.
Way more sorcs and templars. Mdks are in a better spot and if you where use to playing them before the "buffs" then they feel better but with the nerf to wings and the up coming nerf to the cp tree mdks will be back to trash in open world pvp.
Seems the only thing a mdk should do now is duels it's about the only thing in pvp the class is good at.
Lol. I hope that's what the majority of people think as they get X'd on by my L.A. mDK
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Dk_needs_a_buff✭✭✭In pvp open word you can make magic dks pointless. Just walk away from them. They very rarely have a hap closer XD4
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Isbilen✭✭✭✭✭According to my Kill Counter stats, Dragonknight is the least popular class. The number of Templar and Sorcerer players is for both classes individually double that of the Dragonknight.Edited by Isbilen on 8 April 2017 03:460 -
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✭Nahh Magsorc the new meta.Magdk I better but they still have sustain issues that keep them out of being meta because not a lot of people can play them well.
Neither, MagSorc actually requires some skill, besides their ridiculous burst in this update ofc.
I believe Templars and StamDK tanks are the current meta, Magicka DK are not hard to play imo but I will say they need some practice to be good with one and zerg players always go for the easy way, Templars have been the easy way for now 2 years and I doubt anything will change but they nerfed to the ground the Stamblade,a class that used to be meta so maybe one day they'll nerf the templar heals (in PvP only) while buffing their damage and reducing the jesus beam range.K1 The Big Monkey0 -
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✭✭What does it matter? Play what you love and you will always do better than using a class you hate0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Haha...no execute...only true for mag DKs. XD.
mag dk isnt meta. But theyre pretty good as a class...even with the useless, broken abilities.
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✭MDK is pretty OP now but it will change soon
Is OP if you're facing a very good player, the 99% of mDk don't even know how to play it while I have some friends that are gods with a magDk.
Like I said, it's a class that still requires you to do combos to kill people just like a MagSorc, that's why those classes are very good but no one actually uses them because they require people to be very good not everyone knows how to burst combo with a MagSorc, you can practically deal 40k damage with a timed combo on a MagSorc but it requires a lot of experience, anim cancel skill, PvP knowledge and to cancel swap some skills.
A MagDK can do the same, they have incredibly powerful combos that can destroy any player but only the 1% knows how to do them and I hope it stays like that.Edited by Kay1 on 9 April 2017 14:56K1 The Big Monkey2 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭MDK is pretty OP now but it will change soon
Is OP if you're facing a very good player, the 99% of mDk don't even know how to play it while I have some friends that are gods with a magDk.
Like I said, it's a class that still requires you to do combos to kill people just like a MagSorc, that's why those classes are very good but no one actually uses them because they require people to be very good not everyone knows how to burst combo with a MagSorc, you can practically deal 40k damage with a timed combo on a MagSorc but it requires a lot of experience, anim cancel skill, PvP knowledge and to cancel swap some skills.
A MagDK can do the same, they have incredibly powerful combos that can destroy any player but only the 1% knows how to do them and I hope it stays like that.
No one uses magsorcs?
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SneaK✭✭✭✭✭Not sure what "meta" is referring to here, but there has been an influx of MagDKs in PvP. For the most part the people who rolled them with the new buffs have no idea how to play the class and just zerg surf spamming Fossilize and Talons, which make them one of the most annoying classes in the game. If by "meta" you mean common, then yes, absolutely."IMO"Aldmeri DominionBosmer Nightblade AR 32 - Altmer Templar AR 26 - Dunmer Dragonknight AR 18 - Altmer Sorcerer AR 20 - Khajiit Dragonknight AR 18(+3 not worth mentioning, yet)0 -
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✭Not sure what "meta" is referring to here, but there has been an influx of MagDKs in PvP. For the most part the people who rolled them with the new buffs have no idea how to play the class and just zerg surf spamming Fossilize and Talons, which make them one of the most annoying classes in the game. If by "meta" you mean common, then yes, absolutely.
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