Official Discussion Thread for "ESO: Morrowind – Battlegrounds Basics"

ZOS_GinaBruno

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article ESO: Morrowind – Battlegrounds Basics. Soon, you and your companions will be able to take to the field in Battlegrounds, a new fast-paced PvP game mode exclusive to The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind!

MyNameIsElias

4man malubeth tankplar hype

Turelus

First?

Seriously why has no one else commented on this yet?

Awesome though looking forward to playing these (even if I suck at PvP).

Turelus

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

4man malubeth tankplar hype

DAMN IT ELIAS IF IT WAS ANYONE TO SNIPE IT WOULD BE YOU WOULDN'T IT!

VelociousLegend

Finally some details on the the much anticipated BGs! Good stuff so far.

Can't wait for the nitty gritty details or for more on this topic during an up and coming ESO Live stream.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

It doesn't matter if you're an objective-minded team player or a lone wolf, you will receive rewards and recognition based on how you want to play.

What? Rewards for players that don't play for objectives in BG?

KerinKor

Turelus wrote: »

First?

Seriously why has no one else commented on this yet?

'Cos PVP is boring and a waste of scarce dev. resources?

altemriel

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article ESO: Morrowind – Battlegrounds Basics. Soon, you and your companions will be able to take to the field in Battlegrounds, a new fast-paced PvP game mode exclusive to The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind!

"and you are able to specify a desired level range (10-49 or 10-50) with the game type randomly determined."


yeaaaaaah !!

altemriel

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article ESO: Morrowind – Battlegrounds Basics. Soon, you and your companions will be able to take to the field in Battlegrounds, a new fast-paced PvP game mode exclusive to The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind!

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Dagoth_Rac

Won't this be very easy to exploit? With organized groups fighting each other's alts (who will not fight back) and thus rack up quick, dominant victories?

ManwithBeard9

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

Won't this be very easy to exploit? With organized groups fighting each other's alts (who will not fight back) and thus rack up quick, dominant victories?

Your opponents would be random, the issue is 4 exploiters grouping up and running over regulars.

Panda_iMunch

Well this will be interesting to see how hard of a meta will form.

If there is a hard meta to follow, the game would be against itself in regards to how free the game is suppose to be, build wise.

Another issue I could see is that if ZoS is slow to balance right, this could shorten the life of this mode.

I still have hopes though, just gotta make sure the rewards are unique!

casparian

teams in Battlegrounds are not bound by Alliance, but are made up of players from any of the three factions. In Battlegrounds, you're not fighting for Queen Ayrenn, High King Emeric, or Jorunn the Skald-King, but for the Pit Daemons (Green), Fire Drakes (Orange), or Storm Lords (Purple).

How does one get into one of these Battleground factions? I suppose players simply choose? What if my friend chooses team purple and I choose team green? Can we never group together for Battlegrounds? Can players reverse their choice later and get into a different Battleground faction?

Why do these Battleground factions exist? Does every player on team purple get some kind of benefit if team purple wins more matches than the other two? Do they play some role in grouping, scoring, or rewards?

Edit: @ZOS_GinaBruno care to clarify? Or is this information that we'll need to wait for?

Cinbri

MyNameIsElias wrote: »

4man malubeth tankplar hype

4man malubeth warden hype.

kongkim

How will you work out so premade team don't ruin it for the random pug teams?

Xexpo

I really hope that the group finder/matching making system for BG's functions better than the current dungeon model.

Solariken

I hope they at least disable CP for these. Otherwise it's just going to be all unkillable ulti trains.

kongkim

Solariken wrote: »

I hope they at least disable CP for these. Otherwise it's just going to be all unkillable ulti trains.

No thx. i gained my CP.

Recremen

Oh cool, so you DO earn alliance points!! I was so worried that there was going to be a second incredibly-long rank progression grind, so I'm glad that no matter what kind of PvP I want to do that day I'll still earn progress towards it. Great idea!!

Sharee

I expect this to have the same problem of premade-vs-pug as every other battleground-style game i ever played. Only thing im looking forward to is having less of the former in cyrodiil.

Eirella

Looks like a lot of fun, I can't wait!

Daimmyo

Reminds me of Random Arena in GW1 - which is mode I really liked.

Or team versus team.

This will be interesting to me.

bubbygink

kongkim wrote: »

How will you work out so premade team don't ruin it for the random pug teams?

In an interview @ZOS_BrianWheeler said that the matchmaking system will attempt to match premade groups with other premade groups and pug groups with other pug groups. Only in cases where the premade group has been in queue for a long time will it get matched up with random pug teams.

Source: http://www.mmorpg.com/elder-scrolls-online/interviews/brian-wheeler-talks-pvp-in-morrowind-1000011585

Dominoid

casparian wrote: »

teams in Battlegrounds are not bound by Alliance, but are made up of players from any of the three factions. In Battlegrounds, you're not fighting for Queen Ayrenn, High King Emeric, or Jorunn the Skald-King, but for the Pit Daemons (Green), Fire Drakes (Orange), or Storm Lords (Purple).

How does one get into one of these Battleground factions? I suppose players simply choose? What if my friend chooses team purple and I choose team green? Can we never group together for Battlegrounds? Can players reverse their choice later and get into a different Battleground faction?

Why do these Battleground factions exist? Does every player on team purple get some kind of benefit if team purple wins more matches than the other two? Do they play some role in grouping, scoring, or rewards?

Edit: @ZOS_GinaBruno care to clarify? Or is this information that we'll need to wait for?

The factions don't actually exist per se. You can't join them or choose a side. They simply gave some backstory to the colors of the teams you'll see on the map. Also notice they made them purple, green and orange as an homage to Cyrodiil. EP + AD = Orange, AD + DC = Green and DC + EP = Purple.

itehache

I am not much into pvp but I am pretty exited about bgs. I will definately give them a try with some friends

Nouney

I have a question about matchmaking.
Will the groups be formed in a random manner or will it take into account the results obtained in the previous arenas?

Because if pro PVP player constantly encounter lower players, it may quickly bother some.

And if you play with random player and you fight versus a team of premade player, it will be very hard.

So I hope the matchmaking will be great !

Cimadon

Like a couple have pointed out, teams of 4 malubeth unkillable templars is probably gonna be a problem, especially in domination. I have no idea how they are gonna balance this, but I assume the people they brought in to help give feedback a couple of weeks ago, would have brought this up too, so they must know about it.

I like that they wanna match groups against groups as often as possible, but they need some sort of ranked matchmaking system. Some sort of mmr that determines who you play against. (As skill level is gonna vary alot between groups). Preferably something like, you get matched up with people who have the same mmr as you, or close, when you win you take points from the losers and if you are on a win streak you get paired up with higher ranks and it should factor in pre-existing teams as a variable aswell. This will make it so that you square up against evenly skilled players. It should probably be character specific too. Also, it doesn't have to be tied to a visible league ranking, it could all work behind the scenes for better matchmaking.

It hurts me a little bit that they are gonna release battlegrounds without this feature to be honest.

With all that said though, I'll most likely spend all of my pvp time in BG, still super excited! :-)

Turelus

Sharee wrote: »

I expect this to have the same problem of premade-vs-pug as every other battleground-style game i ever played. Only thing im looking forward to is having less of the former in cyrodiil.

They could try and do what other games do (though sadly dilutes the grouping pool) and have only ranked matched pre-made groups and unranked matches as forced PUG.

I sadly expect the party chat in these to become as toxic and hateful as DOTA with how this community is normally.

Alcast

REMOVE CP unless you want endless fights that dont end.

Turelus

I wish we knew what limitations will be places on this if any.

I mean in a confined space the Nightblade's cloak will be far less useful if one team cycles potions.

Alcast wrote: »

REMOVE CP unless you want endless fights that dont end.

Is that view from first hand experience?

Jitterbug

Great stuff!

You know what would be awesome though? A bg set in an actual city. *fingers crossed*