[BUG] Maelstrom destro staff enchant broken!!

xynode

Wall of elements should improve your light and heavy attacks. As it does.
BUT if more than one person in your group uses a wall of elements also with a vma weapon only x1 of you receives the bonus.
If x6 of you have wall of elements only x1 of you randomly gets the bonus and so on. Basically only one maelstrom bonus is allowed to be active at one time, this is badly broken.

Please take a look at this asap it's a BIG problem especially for a group of people with vma weapons when only one works lol


Edit: Recent tests show that dual wield, bows etc etc are ALL affected. Anyone using a maelstrom enchant cancels out every other enchant in the group!

LiquidPony

The enchantment is broken on XB1 too.

xynode

I have been messing with it and it seems that any destruction staff from the maelstrom is broken. Solo it works fine but in a group/trial etc, "The FIRST" person to get their "wall of elements" down, gets their increased damage from the enchant...everyone else does NOT!

lots of people farmed for these shinnies and now their weapons are completely busted if there are more than one of you in a group...which being an mmo is quite a lot of the time lol

I would suggest things like this which directly affect a player's way of playing, should be taking more seriously into consideration on the bug fixes and get them done ASAP rather than waiting 3 months at a time and focusing more on fixing whose ears can be seen with which hat.

These types of bugs should be what are considered during weekly maintenance and not just each time an expansion is released as BONUS perks of an update patch. Over a month now since this has been an issue and it hasn't even been addressed by ZOS.

SirDopey

@ZOS_GinaBruno ???????

f047ys3v3n

Lovely, glad I worked hard to get my vMA sharp inferno. It makes such a lovely paperweight. Very prestigious.

I'm sure this is right at the top of the priority list to work on. I have such faith in ZOS for placing priority on fixing endgame content that effects the top .01% of their player base because of the wonderful track record of:

1) Race change animation in vMoL has never been reliable since that content launched to the point that we all run an add-on to tell us if it happens.

2) Half way through v14 the BIS vSO gear received a massive off cycle nerf that left it no longer BIS for PVE dps giving most players who acquired it less than 3 months total with their well earned PVE advantage. A green trash drop set that only came in max level from Cyr dungeon chests was randomly left BIS for magic users.

3) When V16 was introduced trials were not even brought up to max level for more than 6 months. When they were, the IA gear was made the biggest troll set ever with the 5pc bonus requiring a dps loss of 4k to get 1k in gain but having a group buff so good it became mandatory for the healer to run this clearly dps set. vDSA, when it was eventually updated, did not get any gear update to it's weapons leaving most of them utterly useless, applying tiny buffs to skills nobody uses.

4) Cheat engine will soon, if not already, be entering it's second year with only one brief interruption in prosperity. I realize this effects all players and not just endgame PVE but it's effects are most pronounced here and in PVP. I don't think anybody really cares who runs cheat engine to quest as it is not competitive content.

Of course, if it wasn't the set being broken but rather people acquiring the set too easily, that might be fixed right quick. Like say if people found a way to streak over a ravine and hoarse ride to chest farm or something. Probably hotfix that. You know, the guys I knew doing that to get sharp moondancer swords never actually got them anyway. Sharp moondancer swords are such a miserably low drop chance that even exploiting people couldn't get them. Fortunately, with the huge nerf mplars took it hardly matters now. They didn't get sharp BSW swords while doing that glitch power shot sneek through COA1 and just kill the last boss thing that you fixed either BTW. Drop rates were such that one buddy did it more than 300 times and got nada. I'm actually a bit happy you did these fixes as they were spending more time trying to exploit farm than playing the game. Now they have finally, rationally, just given up trying to acquire these impossible RNG items.

Seriously, I do wish endgame content and balance took a higher priority and that the time table for changes wasn't 9 months or so. The time table is so far out right now that often by the time a change is brought in the 9 months of changes before it actually make it a bad idea.

Masel

Can confirm this for PC EU(tested on dummy): 3479 light attack without Crushing wall, 5476 with crushing wall. 3479 with crushing wall if another player placed his blockade first. All numbers crits.

Loc2262

Don't count on a fix anytime soon. Mr. Lambert wants to "lower the ceiling", remember? Breaking end game gear is a perfect step towards that goal!

Then again, they also broke the group finder, which especially hurtful for those new or casual players that are trying to get the daily XP bonus. I'm a bit surprised about this, since it doesn't exactly help the "raise the floor" agenda.

Decado

yup also tested on PC EU while using different types of staffs so if i cast my lightening wall first then my mate cast fire still didnt work.

on a second(less serious) note, hahahaahhahahhahahaa never ever fix it, it makes the fact that the best ive ever gotten is nirn on all 3 types after over a year of farming not even matter in the slightest,

im glad i noticed this before i started up attempting to farm again.

xynode

Decado wrote: »

yup also tested on PC EU while using different types of staffs so if i cast my lightening wall first then my mate cast fire still didnt work.

on a second(less serious) note, hahahaahhahahhahahaa never ever fix it, it makes the fact that the best ive ever gotten is nirn on all 3 types after over a year of farming not even matter in the slightest,

im glad i noticed this before i started up attempting to farm again.

Decado wrote: »

yup also tested on PC EU while using different types of staffs so if i cast my lightening wall first then my mate cast fire still didnt work.

on a second(less serious) note, hahahaahhahahhahahaa never ever fix it, it makes the fact that the best ive ever gotten is nirn on all 3 types after over a year of farming not even matter in the slightest,

im glad i noticed this before i started up attempting to farm again.

LOL second note was funny as hell, but nice to see it's a cross platform bug. Now we just need it fixed ASAP rather than passing it off as a bonus perk of an expansion pack:)

Maintenance is there for a reason and only ever seems to take effect properly if someone is "exploiting" the game rather than something is actually broken.

TheWiesi

Thanks @xynode for this bug report!! As you said it's a huuuge dps loss.

TheWiesi

Due to this bug, wouldn't it be better if just one ore two use the vma staff while everyone else is using an ether/moon dancer/crafted staff for the blockade? I mean using a spell damage glyph should be better than using a vma staff without having the effect.

xynode

I honestly thing personally it would be better if ZOS just fixed what is broken lol:)

TheWiesi

Yea sure. But look at the bug report section. There are tons of bugs in in ESO these days. And they fix almost nothing. Trials are broken. Weapons are broken. Group finder is broken. Guild trader is broken. Freezes, disconnects, lags...it seems like they don't even acknowledge many of those issues. So honestly, don't expect too much. I know it sounds quite offensive but it is what it is. Every time I log in I'm surrounded by bugs. And it feels like they don't give a ***.

xynode

I gota admit is is frustrating talking to a brick wall at times.

Things like this and ongoing bugs should definitely get more attention rather than palming it off as bonus along side an expansion pack

In their dev stream a while back they noted that if they know how the bug works they will attempt to recreate it and then find a fix.. we have given them the scenarios in which this takes place and still not so much as a mention about it from the team. Some acknowledgement would be nice.

People exploiting things like surveys and vmol etc where people can cheat to GET what they want, they bring the servers down right away for a fix, but things like this that actually what you already have and have worked hard for......nothing happens.
looks like if you are trying to gain something the naughty way, they slam it ( and rightly so)...but if you already have something you WORKED FOR they don't care if it is broken.

Can't say I'm impressed, this like many other bugs isn't new. Anything over a week or so should be looked at or at least the players notified that they are working on it.

LiquidPony

The entire bug reporting system is just awful.

Seriously, a sticky post on this forum with "KNOWN ISSUES" enumerating bugs that have been reported and have been acknowledged would go a long way towards resolving the communication issues.

The way it is now, we end up with 25 separate posts reporting that Trials are broken, but they're hard to find, no one from ZOS ever responds, and everyone just ends up posting new issues every day because they don't want to page through 20 pages of bug reports to see if the issue was already reported.

My simple solution: sticky a "KNOWN ISSUES" topic, and remove any report that duplicates a known issue. If the report contains useful information, merge that information into a persistent topic for that particular issue.

What we've got now is a Wild West bug reporting system and it doesn't work. It's frustrating for players, particularly those who take the time to record videos and do tests to give good information on the bugs, and I'm sure it's frustrating for people like @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom who end up with a mob of angry players shaking their pitchforks at ZOS.

TheWiesi

Keep on making comments so that this report is on top of the list in "Bug Reports"

xynode

Seems there are a couple of posts about this now, this thread has been here now since 25th feb and still NOTHING from ZOS about it. I hope they look at this soon, a bug so obvious and game changing shouldn't be left and ignored for this long.

At least some acknowledgement and possibly reassurance would be appreciated on the bug at hand.

SilenusJager

I to would like to see a response. after months of trying to get a lightning staff sharpened I finally got it. 48 hours later I see this post fun times!

xynode

upgrade proof! means when it's fixed it will work properly in groups.....yes, it needs attention asap. "rewards" should not be broken and when they are they should be fixed pretty fast. Negates the point of achieving in the first place. Bugs are bugs of course but broken for this long "KNOWING" that it's broken, isn't great to say the least:)

ZOS_GinaBruno

Thanks guys, we are aware of this issue and are testing a fix for it. We're working on getting this into a future incremental patch.

TheWiesi

Finally

xynode

AT LAST!!! Thank you @ZOS_GinaBruno !

lonewolf26

@ZOS_GinaBruno Will this also include a fix to the issue with the maelstrom destro and bow enchants reprocing on each tick and draining the weapon charge?

xynode

lonewolf26 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno Will this also include a fix to the issue with the maelstrom destro and bow enchants reprocing on each tick and draining the weapon charge?

I would also like to know this, the bows are so badly broken right now, keeps spamming that enchant effect over and over and just smashes your charges to pieces lol sometimes lasts like 1 fight

xynode

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks guys, we are aware of this issue and are testing a fix for it. We're working on getting this into a future incremental patch.

MORE BROKEN WEAPONS

Heads up....did some more testing last night. It turns out that the dual wield maelstrom weapons, bow also, when the enchant is activated...this ALSO cancels out the maelstrom destro staves!

The enchants are BADLY broken across the maelstrom weapons as a whole it seems.
we could actually force it to break . One rapid strikes = hands glow, then for 4 seconds NO ONE's maelstrom weapons (destro staff included) worked at all.

BIG bug

TheWiesi

WTF?! Does anything work as intended in this patch? Almost everything is bugged right now. Trials, weapons, group finder. Playing this game is a pain these days.
ZOS fix your game. It's absolutely broken. Turn off the servers for a week or even longer to repair this ***. And stop fixing the symptoms, fix the *** source!!

xynode

I do agree that the amount of game braking bugs especially bugs that affect items/weapons that people try so hard to obtain, deserve a LOT more attention than just "incremental" patch fix. So many things are broken and then left deliberately until later and we are told to wait 2-3 months before a fix. The time line for the bug fixes like these are not really very good at all. Instead making sure khajiit ears are shown with certain hats take priority? That doesn't make sense.

A few months ago there was a nerf to maelstrom weapons (dual wield) and now ALL maelstrom weapons are broken! A perfect opportunity for me to repost my comical fan art:)
Enjoy!

Disclaimer: This image was created for "fun". If you don't have a sense of humour you miss the point, and are clearly offended by something that comically reflects the current issue, but the resolve is in "YOUR" hands. I appreciate the game so much but fix your bugs. we wait FAR too long. Not enough hotfixes

TheWiesi

xynode wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks guys, we are aware of this issue and are testing a fix for it. We're working on getting this into a future incremental patch.

MORE BROKEN WEAPONS

Heads up....did some more testing last night. It turns out that the dual wield maelstrom weapons, bow also, when the enchant is activated...this ALSO cancels out the maelstrom destro staves!

The enchants are BADLY broken across the maelstrom weapons as a whole it seems.
we could actually force it to break . One rapid strikes = hands glow, then for 4 seconds NO ONE's maelstrom weapons (destro staff included) worked at all.

BIG bug

Can't confirm this! We did several tests tonight. My mate got the maelstrom staff effect while i did rapid strikes and endless hail, both with maelstrom weapons obviously. So i couldn't cancel his buff. Furthermore, we've tested it in different orders. First my rapid strikes, then his wall and the other way around.
However, I do agree that one staff cancels out another one!

xynode

TheWiesi wrote: »

xynode wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks guys, we are aware of this issue and are testing a fix for it. We're working on getting this into a future incremental patch.

MORE BROKEN WEAPONS

Heads up....did some more testing last night. It turns out that the dual wield maelstrom weapons, bow also, when the enchant is activated...this ALSO cancels out the maelstrom destro staves!

The enchants are BADLY broken across the maelstrom weapons as a whole it seems.
we could actually force it to break . One rapid strikes = hands glow, then for 4 seconds NO ONE's maelstrom weapons (destro staff included) worked at all.

BIG bug

Can't confirm this! We did several tests tonight. My mate got the maelstrom staff effect while i did rapid strikes and endless hail, both with maelstrom weapons obviously. So i couldn't cancel his buff. Furthermore, we've tested it in different orders. First my rapid strikes, then his wall and the other way around.
However, I do agree that one staff cancels out another one!

we had the issue where if i empowered my maelstrom dual wield, our friends wall of elements enchant wouldn't fire while my hands were red. Maybe an isolated bug? error inside certain location? I hope so lol

peak99

While we are on the subject, master weapons are broken since forever too.

Master daggers on my stamplar deplete before a skeleton test dummy 1.5min round is over.

Wtf!

TheWiesi

xynode wrote: »

TheWiesi wrote: »

xynode wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Thanks guys, we are aware of this issue and are testing a fix for it. We're working on getting this into a future incremental patch.

MORE BROKEN WEAPONS

Heads up....did some more testing last night. It turns out that the dual wield maelstrom weapons, bow also, when the enchant is activated...this ALSO cancels out the maelstrom destro staves!

The enchants are BADLY broken across the maelstrom weapons as a whole it seems.
we could actually force it to break . One rapid strikes = hands glow, then for 4 seconds NO ONE's maelstrom weapons (destro staff included) worked at all.

BIG bug

Can't confirm this! We did several tests tonight. My mate got the maelstrom staff effect while i did rapid strikes and endless hail, both with maelstrom weapons obviously. So i couldn't cancel his buff. Furthermore, we've tested it in different orders. First my rapid strikes, then his wall and the other way around.
However, I do agree that one staff cancels out another one!

we had the issue where if i empowered my maelstrom dual wield, our friends wall of elements enchant wouldn't fire while my hands were red. Maybe an isolated bug? error inside certain location? I hope so lol

Hmm. As you mentioned you were at least 2 ppl using the wall. Maybe not you didn't cancel the effect but the 2 walls each other? Did you make sure that only one wall was active? If so, I don't know what's going on
Nevertheless I'm going to test it again tonight and let you know what's the result.