Please give the Warden Class an Offensive Purge for PvP

Paraflex

This game really lacks a single target or aoe purge ability to remove buffs offensively from players. Why not change up the meta? This is my opinion here so don't get to upset here guys.

A high cost single target purge or aoe 1 second cast time(can adjust this) purge would be nice for PvP.

Pros -
Removes buffs for enemy players (new ability)
Will force players to play more strategic.
Tons of utility in PvP(purge those cancer builds)
Shakes up the meta and forces people to build against a purge bot.
Hopefully this would balance the game more.

Cons- Would be strong against certain builds especially in duels.
Could be OP so make this a very expensive skill to cast.

Stratforge

Paraflex wrote: »

This game really lacks a single target or aoe purge ability to remove buffs offensively from players. Why not change up the meta? This is my opinion here so don't get to upset here guys.

A high cost single target purge or aoe 1 second cast time(can adjust this) purge would be nice for PvP.

Pros -
Removes buffs for enemy players (new ability)
Will force players to play more strategic.
Tons of utility in PvP(purge those cancer builds)
Shakes up the meta and forces people to build against a purge bot.
Hopefully this would balance the game more.

Cons- Would be strong against certain builds especially in duels.
Could be OP so make this a very expensive skill to cast.

zerg skill

Master_Kas

Give snare immunity&removal to Mirage/double take for my magblade and we have a deal.

Paraflex

Master_Kas wrote: »

Give snare immunity&removal to Mirage/double take for my magblade and we have a deal.

Sure why not the skill just needs to be introduced into the game and would need some balance for other classes

NoFlash

wasnt there a warden leaked skills thread somewhere

Paraflex

EvoAZN wrote: »

wasnt there a warden leaked skills thread somewhere

Yes they released the skills but there is still time to adjust them and test.

Rohaus

Purge is already extremely strong in this game... we really don't need another class that has another form of Purge at their disposal.

BuggeX

im not sure if that would be a good idea, well somehow i would like to be able to purge vigor/momentum hot and some other Major buffs, but the same would happen to me to. and im also not sure if that should be a class exclusive skill, should be located in alliance war, other Morph of purge, single target ofc. also efficient purge should be single targed self and purge 5 insteed 2. with all the dots and root spam purge should not be a exclusive skill. also Majore defile should be accesible for anyone.

they also should spread buffs on skills, a few skill have simple to much Utility and make them op. foz does stun/root and dmg, rev bash dmg/stun and Major defile

Paraflex

BuggeX wrote: »

im not sure if that would be a good idea, well somehow i would like to be able to purge vigor/momentum hot and some other Major buffs, but the same would happen to me to. and im also not sure if that should be a class exclusive skill, should be located in alliance war, other Morph of purge, single target ofc. also efficient purge should be single targed self and purge 5 insteed 2. with all the dots and root spam purge should not be a exclusive skill. also Majore defile should be accesible for anyone.

they also should spread buffs on skills, a few skill have simple to much Utility and make them op. foz does stun/root and dmg, rev bash dmg/stun and Major defile

Yea sure make it an alliance skill and remove that worthless flare skill we get. We should have access to a offensive purge skill...by warden or support line.

exeeter702

Rohaus wrote: »

Purge is already extremely strong in this game... we really don't need another class that has another form of Purge at their disposal.

How about you actually read his post

technohic

What do you mean by offensive purge? Do you mean a debuff?

magorim

He wants to remove all your buffs while you try to run away from Xv1 tryhards while you have cost increase poisens on you.

Izaki

I get it. So you're a Warden right. You're up against a stamina build. They have Vigor up and running as well as Rally. You Purge them, they have no more heals, they try to spam their heals, but you just purge them off, they die. You're up against a magicka build. You purge their shields, they die.

Paraflex

technohic wrote: »

What do you mean by offensive purge? Do you mean a debuff?

Yes right now purge can only be used defensively on yourself or ally's to cleanse negative spells.

I'd like a purge that will cleanse buffs from enemy players.

technohic

Paraflex wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

What do you mean by offensive purge? Do you mean a debuff?

Yes right now purge can only be used defensively on yourself or ally's to cleanse negative spells.

I'd like a purge that will cleanse buffs from enemy players.

Thats pretty much what things like defile, maim, and stam poisons are. It would be far to potent to just outright remove peoples buffs because where do you draw the line?

Paraflex

Clearly this would change the game in a big way. Define,maim, and poisons are small debuffs compared to a high cost offensive purge ability. Say it cost 7000 or 10000 base mag you won't get a ton off but if you use it strategically you could deal with cancer builds and people would have to account for people purging buffs in the game.

Imagine purging shields off a sorc for a timed burst dps.

Imagine purging rally/vigor/crit surge/evasion off a perma dodge roller.

Imagine purging those perma blocking tanks using

Lots of potential with an offensive purge in the game.

leepalmer95

The game just needs an overall turn down on snares in the game all together.

Same with roots.

The 60% snare every gap closer has needs to go.

The snare on templar purge needs to go.

The most a snare should snare you for is 50% and that should be on certain skills such a initial caltraps and templars 4th jabs. not on skills like lotus fan or stampede.

Not sure why everything in this game needs a snare attached, dk dots, most skills, it's annoying.

Snares should be major and minor like everything else, minor should be 20 or 30%, major should be 50% and major should be only on very few skills.

NBrookus

An offensive purge, one which removes buffs from a target or in an area, would end up being yet another Xv1 tool. If the cost is high, no one will be able to run it unless they are in a group large enough to support dedicated purge bots. If large groups only fought large groups, that would be one thing, but an entire zerg will absolutely chase one player sniffed out of hiding halfway across the map.

We already have snares, resource poisons and debuffs which can partially counter many buffs. One skill which counters EVERY buff is way too strong.

Sheuib

All buffs are short so people are use to reapplying often. Some are even applied via a damage skill. So I will be happy to run you out of magicka while I kill you.

xboxNA corin6

Nah. Works well in other games. Shields scale downward the more enemies hitting you and have 6 second durations. Adding offensive purge in group fights just makes heavy meta stronger. With buffs like sorcery and brutality which are mandatory would make this too strong. Effectively one purge negates someone's complete offense and hurts magicka builds much worse than stamina. If you can take my buffs, then purge should cost as much magicka as the cost of the buffs removed with an additional 50% cost for all the advantages you and your group gains by removing buffs, and I still think it would be overpowered. The only way I see this working is by attaching it to an ultimate, and work similar to sorcerers negate.

Xsorus

When he says Purge he means Buff Shear.

Paraflex

Xsorus wrote: »

When he says Purge he means Buff Shear.

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@Xsorus

I guess you played daoc 8)

Midguard Merlin server?

Solariken

I think an offensive purge could be cool, but IMO it would need to be a skill with about 10 different morphs because I think you should have to choose very specifically what type of purge you want (maybe even save it for spellcrafting).

A blanket, non-discriminate purge is a horrible idea and would be incredibly frustrating to play against. You should have to choose - I want to purge shields, or I want to purge speed buffs, or I want to purge HOTs, armor buffs, etc.

Also as counterplay, there should be a separate active skill/buff that when someone tries to purge you while you have the counter buff, the purge spell backfires on them or they straight up explode.

WhiteMage

So I would be fighting someone, and they would purge my food, mundus, continuous attack? Rekt.

UppGRAYxDD

Plz just give warden a warpig pet so I can wreak havoc in cyrodil with Man-Bear-Pig..

Lexxypwns

This would only empower zergs and hurt small scale, terrible idea.

Paraflex

WhiteMage wrote: »

So I would be fighting someone, and they would purge my food, mundus, continuous attack? Rekt.

I don't think food or Mundas stones should be included in it. Maybe times buffs less than 5 minutes only would be effected

Xsorus

Paraflex wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

When he says Purge he means Buff Shear.

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@Xsorus

I guess you played daoc 8)

Midguard Merlin server?

Of course, don't you remember Terravos Buff Shearing you all day long on Bled Bridge ;o)

Paraflex

Xsorus wrote: »

Paraflex wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

When he says Purge he means Buff Shear.

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@Xsorus

I guess you played daoc 8)

Midguard Merlin server?

Of course, don't you remember Terravos Buff Shearing you all day long on Bled Bridge ;o)

I did the majority of buff shearing had 44 nature as a Druid....you were in desolate or which mid PvP guild? I was Angry Elves Hib.

@Xsorus

Xsorus

Paraflex wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

Paraflex wrote: »

Xsorus wrote: »

When he says Purge he means Buff Shear.

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@Xsorus

I guess you played daoc 8)

Midguard Merlin server?

Of course, don't you remember Terravos Buff Shearing you all day long on Bled Bridge ;o)

I did the majority of buff shearing had 44 nature as a Druid....you were in desolate or which mid PvP guild? I was Angry Elves Hib.

@Xsorus

Yeap lol

Had the Savage and Valkyrie Mainly.

FriedEggSandwich

Offensive purge sounds scary and horrible.