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Dk's Dk's Dk's
ZombieZig
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So lets cut to the chase and all roll DK's? Was this really EPs solution? (*thanks in advance to the few EP other classes that will no doubt troll this.)
I can only imagine a army of millennials in there skinny jeans, beards and plaid shirts thinking they all invented the damn class.
Here is a haiku.
Raids of Flapping wings
Watch them reflect mist and heal
Same combat same death
*Zo$ please make the other classes attractive to play as well... this is really getting boring Zzzz.
I can only imagine a army of millennials in there skinny jeans, beards and plaid shirts thinking they all invented the damn class.
Here is a haiku.
Raids of Flapping wings
Watch them reflect mist and heal
Same combat same death
*Zo$ please make the other classes attractive to play as well... this is really getting boring Zzzz.
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭half of the DKs out there are plainly badSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique7 -
ZombieZig✭✭✭half of the DKs out there are plainly bad
/agree
My only point in OP was that its very boring. Seems i encounter very few other classes since patch. Its a fad im aware... but Im not 12 years old and hate fads. Cyro is my zone and battles have become boring. Same encounters, same defense and offense.0 -
Sigtric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You're seeing several things at play here, and since the patch is a week old people are still checking things out and it'll die down.
Basically you have the FOTM types, because mDK came out relatively ahead of where it was
but then you also have all the old mDK players who gave up on the class for a long time, coming back as their DKs to see if it's worth it.
Then you have the DKs that were already out there.
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Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |
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Rohaus✭✭✭✭✭I am playing the other FOTM currently... Stampler... BOMBS AWAY!YouTube channel Rohaus Lives!
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KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭You're seeing several things at play here, and since the patch is a week old people are still checking things out and it'll die down.
Basically you have the FOTM types, because mDK came out relatively ahead of where it was
but then you also have all the old mDK players who gave up on the class for a long time, coming back as their DKs to see if it's worth it.
Then you have the DKs that were already out there.
This.
As much as people wish, MagDK isn't back. It's better, but still lacks. People will figure that out soon and go back to their other classes.
Respect to all the MagDK mains who have stuck through thick and thin lmao.5 -
icontrive✭✭✭As a destro mageblade who hasn't gotten the update yet, all this magdk flappy flap talk scares me.1
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭As a destro mageblade who hasn't gotten the update yet, all this magdk flappy flap talk scares me.
Just roll a sorc and use crushing shock, unreflectable.
Yes I said sorc because staffblade is yawnn, just a squishier and less mobile version of a sorc. (Rip magicka melee nb)EU | PC1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Love the DK's. Keep them coming.
Bad time to be a vampire though, maybe some people will cure it.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭On console we already have the DK horde, they are prepping up for the update.
For sorc, streak is your ally, same with roots0 -
NBrookus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭More magDKs, yes, but still seeing hordes of templars myself. And lots of sorcs, because even the bad sorcs hit like a ton of bricks now, just equip destro and ult and zerg. A bit of an uptick in stamplars because PotL is insanely strong in the right hands.
A LOT fewer stamblades tho, and fewer stam DKs. Magblades are still pink unicorns.
The new FotM chasing mag DKs are easy AP. I've lost track of the number of people whispering me to please help them with the mDK reroll. Even tho we are in a pretty good place right now, they are about to learn that there's still a fairly high skill bar on this class. Most of them will probably go back to their stamsorcs or whatever their last FotM reroll was soon.0 -
Adenoma✭✭✭✭✭
✭My main has been a magDK for a long, long time. People don't realize that magDK is still fundamentally a difficult-to-play class that has low offensive capacities - just now it has the healing it deserves.
Playing around in Haderus and Azura's it seems like people expected them to reroll and get the relative easy button that stamsorcs were.Adenoma-Badenoma-Sadenoma0 -
Auricle✭✭✭✭✭I think a lot of people are just dusting off their magdk that they probably haven't used much in the last year and a half. I took mine for a spin yesterday, tearing her from her crafting slave duties just to test out the changes. I bet a lot of people are doing the same, which is why so many super rusty dks are running around in piecemeal gear. It'll settle down soon and folks will go back to their sorcs.
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Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My main has been a magDK for a long, long time. People don't realize that magDK is still fundamentally a difficult-to-play class that has low offensive capacities - just now it has the healing it deserves.
Playing around in Haderus and Azura's it seems like people expected them to reroll and get the relative easy button that stamsorcs were.
Low offensive capabilities..... honestly I'm not so sure.
As a Vampire Magicka Sorc, there is no class that can pressure me like a Magicka DK can. Those DoTs are brutal and those unblockable Fossilize+Meteor combos when you have DoTs on you and are rooted just obliterate most players. Just gotta Slot Valkyn Skoria+BSW+Seducer or a few other setups with BSW and you're good to go.Edited by Vaoh on 14 February 2017 18:501 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭My main has been a magDK for a long, long time. People don't realize that magDK is still fundamentally a difficult-to-play class that has low offensive capacities - just now it has the healing it deserves.
Playing around in Haderus and Azura's it seems like people expected them to reroll and get the relative easy button that stamsorcs were.
Low offensive capabilities..... honestly I'm not so sure.
As a Vampire Magicka Sorc, there is no class that can pressure me like a Magicka DK can. Those DoTs are brutal and those unblockable Fossilize+Meteor combos when you have DoTs on you and are rooted just obliterate most players. Just gotta Slot Valkyn Skoria+BSW+Seducer or a few other setups with BSW and you're good to go.
Exactly how I feel. No other mag build has the pressure of a mDK. Again have to have streak in duels, have to make space, have to get dark conversion off lol. My gosh, what I would give for an instant heal class ability.0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »My main has been a magDK for a long, long time. People don't realize that magDK is still fundamentally a difficult-to-play class that has low offensive capacities - just now it has the healing it deserves.
Playing around in Haderus and Azura's it seems like people expected them to reroll and get the relative easy button that stamsorcs were.
Low offensive capabilities..... honestly I'm not so sure.
As a Vampire Magicka Sorc, there is no class that can pressure me like a Magicka DK can. Those DoTs are brutal and those unblockable Fossilize+Meteor combos when you have DoTs on you and are rooted just obliterate most players. Just gotta Slot Valkyn Skoria+BSW+Seducer or a few other setups with BSW and you're good to go.
Exactly how I feel. No other mag build has the pressure of a mDK. Again have to have streak in duels, have to make space, have to get dark conversion off lol. My gosh, what I would give for an instant heal class ability.
Magicka Sorcs are just weird tbh...
At first they were highly mobile and survived by avoiding damage/spike healing while using their small shield(s) to negate other minor damage.
Then their high mobility was stripped from them and they were made into OP tanks builds with massive shields and became the meta.
Nowadays shields must be recast super often, can be cut down really quickly, and Sorcs don't have their mobility either (Streak was bugged even more with Homestead, and can now root you). Oh!...... but now they can cast a broken EotS ultimate to melt enemies so it's all good -_- These types of changes in how PvP plays+lag is why everyone left Cyrodiil and solo players are practically all gone.Edited by Vaoh on 14 February 2017 19:340 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »My main has been a magDK for a long, long time. People don't realize that magDK is still fundamentally a difficult-to-play class that has low offensive capacities - just now it has the healing it deserves.
Playing around in Haderus and Azura's it seems like people expected them to reroll and get the relative easy button that stamsorcs were.
Low offensive capabilities..... honestly I'm not so sure.
As a Vampire Magicka Sorc, there is no class that can pressure me like a Magicka DK can. Those DoTs are brutal and those unblockable Fossilize+Meteor combos when you have DoTs on you and are rooted just obliterate most players. Just gotta Slot Valkyn Skoria+BSW+Seducer or a few other setups with BSW and you're good to go.
Exactly how I feel. No other mag build has the pressure of a mDK. Again have to have streak in duels, have to make space, have to get dark conversion off lol. My gosh, what I would give for an instant heal class ability.
Magicka Sorcs are just weird tbh...
At first they were highly mobile and survived by avoiding damage/spike healing while using their small shield(s) to negate other minor damage.
Then their high mobility was stripped from them and they were made into OP tanks builds with massive shields and became the meta.
Nowadays shields must be recast super often, can be cut down really quickly, and Sorcs don't have their mobility either (Streak was bugged even more with Homestead, and can now root you). Oh!...... but now they can cast a broken EotS ultimate to melt enemies so it's all good -_- These types of changes in how PvP plays+lag is why everyone left Cyrodiil and solo players are practically all gone.
... shhh...
But...
WW mode messes them up! >.> you get an instant heal...<.< you get a gap closer... massive bleed dmg ....
I think I've actually solidified my build and it doesn't use eots lol,
I made 80k solo in Cheydinhal - my favorite part was when a group didn't notice me swam across the river there, with me swimming behind... as a WW. They all got out facing away from me...
When I got out I seriously wished there was a "shake wet fur around" emote... would have been hilarious..
Oh I almost forgot, I slaughtered them all immediately after. And I then always eat their leader... muhahahaha!0 -
Izaki✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Mag DK is still the same crappy class without mobility. YAY its got a reliable heal!!! So what? With the amount of the terrible DKs who don't have a clue that got grinded up prior to Homestead, I doubt any of them are killing anything.
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#MoreDPSthanYou
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »Mag DK is still the same crappy class without mobility. YAY its got a reliable heal!!! So what? With the amount of the terrible DKs who don't have a clue that got grinded up prior to Homestead, I doubt any of them are killing anything.
But you can't use bad players as an example. It doesn't matter what class a bad player uses. It matters what competent players use.
Example also would be: Just because not a single player has found a (insert theoretical combo that is insanely over powered) doesn't mean Devs can't ignore it while balancing.
In MTG many devs constantly had to remind players that certain cards were changed because of combos that no one had found yet - their fear was one day they'd let something go through because the player base hadn't caught on, then one player would catch on, then effectively destroy everything. My point is, you have to balance around theoretical - not necessarily actual - players/abilities etc...Edited by Waffennacht on 14 February 2017 19:541 -
Rossphi✭✭✭So lets cut to the chase and all roll DK's? Was this really EPs solution? (*thanks in advance to the few EP other classes that will no doubt troll this.)
I can only imagine a army of millennials in there skinny jeans, beards and plaid shirts thinking they all invented the damn class.
Here is a haiku.
Raids of Flapping wings
Watch them reflect mist and heal
Same combat same death
*Zo$ please make the other classes attractive to play as well... this is really getting boring Zzzz.
You're going to be super salty when the warden class comes out. Can't wait to see those haikus. Clearly you're getting face rolled by mDKs....L2P issue.1 -
FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »On console we already have the DK horde, they are prepping up for the update.
For sorc, streak is your ally, same with roots
I've notice this too they are all very bad and are confused at how to play and think it's the next fotm class lol. All we really got was a wing nerf and a slight buff to a crappy heal. When they figure out that it's not top dog they will go back to Stam sorc XDD
Try dueling these new mdk aka very low pvp rank they are just bad0 -
iseko✭✭✭✭mDK got
A) decent heal which is a bit too strong imho at the moment(just needs a little tweaking)
B)small buff to whip
Most people dont realize though that you don't build for sustain as a mDK. You build for dmg. Those flame whips hurt for a lot in the right setup. Combine it with dots ticking in the background and ulti to finish and they can be beast.
See lots of dk's hitting crap dmg though. Prob running 2k mag regen or something.0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭mDK got
A) decent heal which is a bit too strong imho at the moment(just needs a little tweaking)
B)small buff to whip
Most people dont realize though that you don't build for sustain as a mDK. You build for dmg. Those flame whips hurt for a lot in the right setup. Combine it with dots ticking in the background and ulti to finish and they can be beast.
See lots of dk's hitting crap dmg though. Prob running 2k mag regen or something.
If coagblood is too strong, what is BoL and Vigor? They must be stupidly broken if coagblood is considered too strong.Edited by KisoValley on 15 February 2017 14:050 -
iseko✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »mDK got
A) decent heal which is a bit too strong imho at the moment(just needs a little tweaking)
B)small buff to whip
Most people dont realize though that you don't build for sustain as a mDK. You build for dmg. Those flame whips hurt for a lot in the right setup. Combine it with dots ticking in the background and ulti to finish and they can be beast.
See lots of dk's hitting crap dmg though. Prob running 2k mag regen or something.
If coagblood is too strong, what is BoL and Vigor? They must be stupidly broken if coagblood is considered too strong.
Was just my opinion. Ive been getting 5-8k heals at 70%. Does not seem right...0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »mDK got
A) decent heal which is a bit too strong imho at the moment(just needs a little tweaking)
B)small buff to whip
Most people dont realize though that you don't build for sustain as a mDK. You build for dmg. Those flame whips hurt for a lot in the right setup. Combine it with dots ticking in the background and ulti to finish and they can be beast.
See lots of dk's hitting crap dmg though. Prob running 2k mag regen or something.
If coagblood is too strong, what is BoL and Vigor? They must be stupidly broken if coagblood is considered too strong.
Was just my opinion. Ive been getting 5-8k heals at 70%. Does not seem right...
Get fasalla'd or incapped/reverbed and coag becomes useless like it was pre homestead. I think coag is healing fine. Embers probably should have got changed a bit when they buffed coag.0 -
iseko✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »KisoValley wrote: »mDK got
A) decent heal which is a bit too strong imho at the moment(just needs a little tweaking)
B)small buff to whip
Most people dont realize though that you don't build for sustain as a mDK. You build for dmg. Those flame whips hurt for a lot in the right setup. Combine it with dots ticking in the background and ulti to finish and they can be beast.
See lots of dk's hitting crap dmg though. Prob running 2k mag regen or something.
If coagblood is too strong, what is BoL and Vigor? They must be stupidly broken if coagblood is considered too strong.
Was just my opinion. Ive been getting 5-8k heals at 70%. Does not seem right...
Get fasalla'd or incapped/reverbed and coag becomes useless like it was pre homestead. I think coag is healing fine. Embers probably should have got changed a bit when they buffed coag.
Also an option0 -
BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭there is a bug on foz that allow you to hit after an incredible dmg
not sure if bug or bad designe, if you rolldoge/brakefree or whatever Action your block will not work after for 1-2 sec a well timed powerlash after foz will wreck you with 7-10k, thats the whole magick behind the Shootingstar powelash burst
well block in generall is broke af right nowEdited by BuggeX on 15 February 2017 20:45#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
#betterhotfixgrindspots0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭there is a bug on foz that allow you to hit after an incredible dmg
not sure if bug or bad designe, if you rolldoge/brakefree or whatever Action your block will not work after for 1-2 sec a well timed powerlash after foz will wreck you with 7-10k, thats the whole magick behind the Shootingstar powelash burst
well block in generall is broke af right now
What is this "block" you speak of? Lmao - oh bugs0
