Spell Penetration - is there a cut off line where you should stop investing in it?

oTheTownDrunk

So basically is it worth ditching spinners and investing in a different set with high spell damage and investing in CP spell pen over a high spell pen suit? Is there a number where its over kill or is it more spell pen the better? 14400 is where im at right now, would you invest CP in more spell pen or else where? I thought I read somewhere there was a special number where having more was non effective.

driosketch

Boss resistance is 18,200 I think.

Penatration is pretty powerful over the other options right now.

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LegacyDM

In pvp I would say the sweet spot is between 15-20k. Most people are running resistances between those two values. Those running higher are tanks using shields anyway.

oTheTownDrunk

I wonder why people are not running Spell Erosion up till the max Spell Pen then. Or are they and I just havent read this.

Berenhir

I'd say 10k. I'm running 197% crit damage and +40% damage increase next patch via CP, destro and grim focus. Way more versatile than penetration.

Waffennacht

oTheTownDrunk wrote: »

I wonder why people are not running Spell Erosion up till the max Spell Pen then. Or are they and I just havent read this.

Because diminishing returns. You'll get more out of other trees (more percentage) than going full blown into erosion. Also most players can get to 15k pen without putting so much into erosion

oTheTownDrunk

Spinners and Sharpened Destro I have 14400 or so, I can get to 15000 but why not push it to 18200. Well its a great thing they are coming out with a self dps test skeleton so you can figure out how hard you actually hit. Wish it was a breakdown of damage like PC has but ill take what I can get on console.

Ron_Burgundy_79

oTheTownDrunk wrote: »

Spinners and Sharpened Destro I have 14400 or so, I can get to 15000 but why not push it to 18200. Well its a great thing they are coming out with a self dps test skeleton so you can figure out how hard you actually hit. Wish it was a breakdown of damage like PC has but ill take what I can get on console.

Did ZOS release the resistance stats for the skeleton?

This is probably a dream scenario but it would also be nice if there was a pvp version of the skeleton. Battle spirit applied, a significant amount of impen, and maybe an option for shields.

driosketch

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

oTheTownDrunk wrote: »

Spinners and Sharpened Destro I have 14400 or so, I can get to 15000 but why not push it to 18200. Well its a great thing they are coming out with a self dps test skeleton so you can figure out how hard you actually hit. Wish it was a breakdown of damage like PC has but ill take what I can get on console.

Did ZOS release the resistance stats for the skeleton?

This is probably a dream scenario but it would also be nice if there was a pvp version of the skeleton. Battle spirit applied, a significant amount of impen, and maybe an option for shields.

I can't find it, but I think one of the devs said it has the standard boss resistance. It's basically the same build as Bloodspawn, per the patch notes.

Jbugz97

i have sharpen spinner staffs and i cant seem to like the set, when fighting any magicka class your set is not providing any help while shield are up which is the entire fight
i prefer pumping up the damaged instead

oTheTownDrunk

Pumping up that SD helps with sorcs but not the majority of PvP players out there is the only issue. I feel very powerful for a sorc at 390 with my setup which includes spinners and some other set items. Sharpened Inferno staff and spinners hits hard, make sure you get your magicka up as well. 45k + is ideal.

Jeckll

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

oTheTownDrunk wrote: »

Spinners and Sharpened Destro I have 14400 or so, I can get to 15000 but why not push it to 18200. Well its a great thing they are coming out with a self dps test skeleton so you can figure out how hard you actually hit. Wish it was a breakdown of damage like PC has but ill take what I can get on console.

Did ZOS release the resistance stats for the skeleton?

This is probably a dream scenario but it would also be nice if there was a pvp version of the skeleton. Battle spirit applied, a significant amount of impen, and maybe an option for shields.

I tested it, 18.2k Spell Resistance and Armor. Minor Slayer doesnt work and it can be CC'ed (rooted) which means DW passives "Ruffian" applies if you use Beast Trap for example.

Minalan

I stopped at 12K or so with CP and passives, it seems to work. I tried higher and it does less than crit or crit damage.

Wreuntzylla

Shields aren't the only consideration. If you use a non-damage based heal, penetration does nothing for it.