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Gankers - Counter the Miat's Addon, don't just be a victim
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
I disagree. For me, knowing a ganker is nearby is very helpful for a variety of reasons. From knowing an attack is potentially imminent to knowing that I am spotted if my group is trying to ninja a keep.
It's the difference between using the add-on as a survival crutch and using it for environmental information.
This isn't really something a ganker is going to do to a magicka templar running in a group/zerg. If you're running alone or standing near siege, something like that, sure.
I have gotten it before even when in a 16 man bomb group. Doing anything at all that the add-on can track just makes the add-on's information more accurate. Using it as a gank crutch is a fail because gankers always find a way as you have demonstrated. On the other hand, the information is invaluable.Edited by timidobserver on 27 December 2016 22:50V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
I disagree. For me, knowing a ganker is nearby is very helpful for a variety of reasons. From knowing an attack is potentially imminent to knowing that I am spotted if my group is trying to ninja a keep.
It's the difference between using the add-on as a survival crutch and using it for environmental information.
This isn't really something a ganker is going to do to a magicka templar running in a group/zerg. If you're running alone or standing near siege, something like that, sure.
I have gotten it before even when in a 16 man bomb group. Doing anything at all that the add-on can track just makes the add-on's information more accurate. Using it as a gank crutch is a fail because gankers always find a way as you have demonstrated. On the other hand, the information is invaluable.
A 16 man bomb group
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wow, this one would wanna join, she now got her 5 pieces vicious death set, got to improve it and go
if you are on pc eu, pls send this one a friend request
@altemriel
With sharp claws
MaoimiiEdited by altemriel on 27 December 2016 22:540 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
I disagree. For me, knowing a ganker is nearby is very helpful for a variety of reasons. From knowing an attack is potentially imminent to knowing that I am spotted if my group is trying to ninja a keep.
It's the difference between using the add-on as a survival crutch and using it for environmental information.
This isn't really something a ganker is going to do to a magicka templar running in a group/zerg. If you're running alone or standing near siege, something like that, sure.
Yes, but this one has realized, that when she does not get out of cloak, then she can not be seen by this spell addon , so this one is safe LOL-ing 
With sharp claws
MaoimiiEdited by altemriel on 27 December 2016 22:580 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
I disagree. For me, knowing a ganker is nearby is very helpful for a variety of reasons. From knowing an attack is potentially imminent to knowing that I am spotted if my group is trying to ninja a keep.
It's the difference between using the add-on as a survival crutch and using it for environmental information.
This isn't really something a ganker is going to do to a magicka templar running in a group/zerg. If you're running alone or standing near siege, something like that, sure.
Yes, but this one has realized, that when she does not get out of cloak, then she can not be seen by this spell addon , so this one is safe LOL-ing
With sharp claws
Maoimii
Yep, it does not tell your location or give any hints to it outside of the notification that you are close enough to trigger a stealth attack alert.
I spent probably 40 minutes of my PVP time last night just trolling people who were obviously using it. It slowed down my AP gain but it was quite enjoyable to watch them waste their time and effort.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB0 -
chaserstorm16909✭✭✭✭✭"First, you won't show up on their counter unless you leave/enter crouch."
Do they get a warning if you use cloak?0 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭chaserstorm16909 wrote: »"First, you won't show up on their counter unless you leave/enter crouch."
Do they get a warning if you use cloak?
Not if you remain in crouch. If you are cloaking around while not in crouch, then probably, but I haven't tested that. It won't be a "notification" either way, just a "1" on their counter.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
I disagree. For me, knowing a ganker is nearby is very helpful for a variety of reasons. From knowing an attack is potentially imminent to knowing that I am spotted if my group is trying to ninja a keep.
It's the difference between using the add-on as a survival crutch and using it for environmental information.
This isn't really something a ganker is going to do to a magicka templar running in a group/zerg. If you're running alone or standing near siege, something like that, sure.
Yes, but this one has realized, that when she does not get out of cloak, then she can not be seen by this spell addon , so this one is safe LOL-ing
With sharp claws
Maoimii
Yep, it does not tell your location or give any hints to it outside of the notification that you are close enough to trigger a stealth attack alert.
I spent probably 40 minutes of my PVP time last night just trolling people who were obviously using it. It slowed down my AP gain but it was quite enjoyable to watch them waste their time and effort.
yes, you can as a nb ""misuse" this addon to drain their resources by uncloaking nearby and then cloaking again or place shadow in hidden place, uncloak, port to shadow , they always shoot shields and buffs and debuffs and reveal hidden and when they do it 4th or 5th time, then strike and they are insta-death 0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
Or you know. The victim will probably just hide or invis/escape pot away. GG. The addon allows them to no longer play the game your way.
Hopefully pub 13 will break the API.
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altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »I've been giving people pump-fakes before I gank too - it's hilarious when you charge a heavy at them from a distance and they start flopping around and warding, etc. Keep it up I say - I like it when you waste a bunch of resources and give yourself dodge roll penalty before I open up on you
This is effective against people that rely 100% on the add-on to save them. Against decent players you are just revealing your presence.
Which does nothing for them other than make them waste detect pots and effort on avoiding a gank. I love watching people waste their detect pots.
Or you know. The victim will probably just hide or invis/escape pot away. GG. The addon allows them to no longer play the game your way.
Hopefully pub 13 will break the API.
a NB can drain resources of the opponents by trolling the addon 0 -
Kutsuu✭✭✭✭✭What if the prey has Infernal Guardian on?
They have to be in combat for their procs to target you and by now you should be aware enough to avoid getting within range of an infernal guardian user who is in combat, especially when getting within range means you're the furthest target. What I often do if I have chosen for some reason to get within range is to make sure that I am not the furthest target who is within range.
While I am hoping for a fix to infernal guardian doing this at some point, we have to adapt for the time being.PC/NA
Envy Me - Sorc
Kutsus - NB
Kutsmuffin - Temp
Kutsuu the Destroyer - NB
Kutsuu - Temp
Natsu Dragoneel - DK
Kutsumo - NB1 -
Hurika✭✭✭✭
You played daoc just like I did, how much time did you have to react to perf or crit shot before it hit? The element of surprise is certainly nothing new.
DAoC stealthing required positioning styles and if you failed your gank you were toast. Bladeturn was a reliable defense against any bowattack.
Eso ganking has NONE of the drawbacks daoc ganking had whjle also being a lot more potent in terms of killing power.
In daoc you always had the chance to fight back if purge was up.
In DAoC you could interrupt casters though so they couldn't spam nukes or heals ignoring your damage unless they used majestic will which only lasted a few seconds or quickcast which was 1 spell or used an insa-cast which very few were and they were on a cool down.
DAoC had positionals, reactionaries, combos, etc. It felt more like chess where this feels more like tic-tac-toe. Ironically both died a little more every time they tried to improve them.0 -
Lord_Etrigan✭✭✭✭Also, it's really fun to whisper people on the stealthed list things like " I see you"
Im so stealing this the next time I'm about to Gank someone!
Nervous prey makes mistakes and this one waits patiently whilst she stalks.
Regards,
Tigra the UnforgivenEdited by Lord_Etrigan on 6 January 2017 11:26PS4 EU
Lord Etrigan (Former Emperor): PVE High Elf Sorcerer
Nyssa al Ghul: PVP Nightblade Wood Elf (Ganker)
Lady-Death : PVP High Elf Sorcerer (8 x Campaigns Former Empress and Grand Warlord) Retired:(
Achmed-Silence I keel you: PVP Dark Elf Nightblade (Suicide Bomber)
I'm with stupid: PVP Argonian Magic Temp (Group support and healer).
Guild:
The Order of Stolas (Founder and Guild Master)
Faction: Aldmeri Dominion
Her Royal Highness Queen Ayrenn Arana wants You for Dominion.
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!!0 -
I like this addon. When I see someone hidden on my list I slot magelight to find them and then rek them upMain EP - Caius Targaryen - Stam DK
EP - Viselyx Targaryen - Mag NB
DC - Tyron Targaryen - Stam Templar
AD - Vaeron Targaryen - Stam Sorc0 -
PandaIsAPotato✭✭✭Or you could just... Not die from a gank? How hard is it to slot some impen and build so you don't die in two hits, people these days man. Leave the game for a year and they all forget how to fend off Tyago fan boys.Supreme Leader Panda
GM of Licinius Exploitation Incorporated0 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭There are different addons to Miats that help me survive ganks xD
Zos won't stop us from countering the most aids playstyle in any MMO.1 -
Yasha✭✭✭✭Wow, I had no idea how cancerous the add-ons had gotten. ZOS really isn't very serious about pvp! Its too bad though, because the pvp in this game has amazing potential.3
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cheemers✭✭✭✭✭Wow, I had no idea how cancerous the add-ons had gotten. ZOS really isn't very serious about pvp! Its too bad though, because the pvp in this game has amazing potential.
In all seriousness, ever since i heard about miat's add on I'm glad I'm part of the #consolemasterraceYoutube channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCDQ7FrJ0AjMt2auffLEf_Pw
PS4 EU - 18 characters, all DC0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii1 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.1 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.
really? nice!!!
this one is happy now!!
any source for that pls?Edited by altemriel on 7 February 2017 14:520 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.
really? nice!!!
this one is happy now!!
any source for that pls?
Miats addon itself states as much at esoui.0 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.
really? nice!!!
this one is happy now!!
any source for that pls?
Miats addon itself states as much at esoui.
Oh, this is really nice news my pal!!! This one feels really better now about it
This one was totally not happy about this addon, seemed like total cheating to this one!
Now this one can cloak again and be happy
With swift paws
Maoimii1 -
KisoValley✭✭✭✭✭This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.
Miat showed us what could be made. I'm going to love the incoming "cheat" threads over the next few months as people realise the amount of private addons that have already been made since Miats xD. Already enjoyed the thread where someone made an addon to literally find people in their specific location while in stealth, that QQ thread was too funny.0 -
Arthg✭✭✭✭✭
✭KisoValley wrote: »This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.
Miat showed us what could be made. I'm going to love the incoming "cheat" threads over the next few months as people realise the amount of private addons that have already been made since Miats xD. Already enjoyed the thread where someone made an addon to literally find people in their specific location while in stealth, that QQ thread was too funny.
How can one find the existence of game-breaking addons even remotely enjoyable - beats me.
You've got weird, devious ways to have fun, mate.
Revelling in the secret knowledge of unfair doings - takes a certain mindset.PC/EU. NoCP PvP. sDK Orc IRL. Flawless tamperor. Pro scrub.1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭KisoValley wrote: »This one she thinks this addon is cheating, should get banned, the same as showing dps of the group members!
With fur
Maoimii
ZoS has changed the LUA code, and from what I understand this addon doesn't do much anymore. So there you go, ZoS looked at it, made a choice and followed through. No bans or messy stuff like that.
Miat showed us what could be made. I'm going to love the incoming "cheat" threads over the next few months as people realise the amount of private addons that have already been made since Miats xD. Already enjoyed the thread where someone made an addon to literally find people in their specific location while in stealth, that QQ thread was too funny.
How can one find the existence of game-breaking addons even remotely enjoyable - beats me.
You've got weird, devious ways to have fun, mate.
Revelling in the secret knowledge of unfair doings - takes a certain mindset.
It's almost as enjoyable as one-shotting an otherwise helpless player that can't fight back.
As for the 'secret add-ons', I think if there was some way to find nightblades or detect their stealth opener, Miat would have figured it out. He didn't, and he retired his addon completely because there was nothing left in the API service to talk to. All of the "hooks" are removed, and there's nothing to talk to on the server.
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binho✭✭✭I play on the PS4 so no fancy addons like Miats...
It's def cheating and shame people don't know how to play without them
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