Question From PvP Amateur

Narthil

Hey guys,

I've been playing PvP in MMOs for 15 years and I have a few questions regarding specific mechanics in this one.

The usual rule of thumb in end game PvP for DD in all MMOs is to min/max crit chance by taking to around 33.33% and then go all in crit damage once you hit soft or hard caps for base damage.

Now, I know it's very common here to stack impen gear, but I would still like to know if anyone here uses a build that focuses more on crit chance/crit damage instead of penetration and how does it perform.

I'm talking about champion points and everything (like going all in elfborn instead of the penetration perk and such).

Thanks!

Waffennacht

Typically Stam NB has the highest crit chance (khajiit I believe) and has high crit modifiers

I haven't tried a heavy crit build in a long time.

General rule of thumb (should be rule of wrist... oh jokes...) is around 50% crit chance (crits apply to heals too!) If you use thief mundus to get to 50% CPs help the damage modifier. If you get to 50 without the thief, shadow is the next mundus to choose.

Even with impen there will be crit damage, just not as much

geonsocal

Narthil wrote: »

Hey guys,

I've been playing PvP in MMOs for 15 years and I have a few questions regarding specific mechanics in this one.

The usual rule of thumb in end game PvP for DD in all MMOs is to min/max crit chance by taking to around 33.33% and then go all in crit damage once you hit soft or hard caps for base damage.

Now, I know it's very common here to stack impen gear, but I would still like to know if anyone here uses a build that focuses more on crit chance/crit damage instead of penetration and how does it perform.

I'm talking about champion points and everything (like going all in elfborn instead of the penetration perk and such).

Thanks!

Wow, for a pvp "amateur" you seem to have a pretty good handle on dealing damage...

and maybe more importantly - defending yourself (hard to do damage when toured rezzing someplace else)...

scary to think what you'll be able to do once you get a couple of months in to cyrodiil

Narthil

geonsocal wrote: »

Wow, for a pvp "amateur" you seem to have a pretty good handle on dealing damage...

and maybe more importantly - defending yourself (hard to do damage when toured rezzing someplace else)...

scary to think what you'll be able to do once you get a couple of months in to cyrodiil

Thanks for the comment! I'm also in PS4 NA, just hit champion and at about 80 right now. would love to join a guild with some ESO pvp veterans to pick some brains.

Waffennacht

Narthil wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

Wow, for a pvp "amateur" you seem to have a pretty good handle on dealing damage...

and maybe more importantly - defending yourself (hard to do damage when toured rezzing someplace else)...

scary to think what you'll be able to do once you get a couple of months in to cyrodiil

Thanks for the comment! I'm also in PS4 NA, just hit champion and at about 80 right now. would love to join a guild with some ESO pvp veterans to pick some brains.

You'll get better info here and tamriel foundry I'm thinking. - unless you're PC then yeah go with some cool guilds. Just curious, what build you runnin?

iseko

Too much impen in cyro atm. Everyone (except magsorcs) are running with at least 1K. Except for permablockers. You can get 30% crit chance rather easy without trying. More as a byproduct really.

Penetration stacking is better imho. But I dont play nb so... Yeah..

geonsocal

howdy @Narthil ...well - did ya get out there?

which campaign (better be scourge )?

what build (race/class)? what gear?

have you tried both playing in a group and playing solo?

any big differences obvious from other mmo's (eso is my first)?

I've been "stuck" in pvp land for around a year - always interesting to hear initial impressions of others, particularly with an mmo, elder scrolls or bethesda background...

thedude33

Great question. Looking forward to some opinions.

Draxys

Stacking penetration is far better in the current game, although there are some ganking builds that can make excellent use of crit and crit damage. Outside of ganking, not many builds can get high enough crit for it to be a build focus while also maintaining sufficient general damage dealing. Nightblades and sorcerers are probably the ones that can get away with it, although the best way to do it is with a potion instead of having the extra crit inherently in the build.