[Video] Magicka DK build - Etaniel

Etaniel

Here are two setups I've been using, both using desert rose as my main sustain tool.
Tell me what you think about them !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ihftifu0-0Q

Ishammael

How good, exactly, is Desert Rose?

If you're doing group fights I'm thinking you have close to 100% proc rate... Which is more or less infinite mana.
But what about when it's <4 people or you are running solo?

Armitas

Reported your inventory to the guard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2otihe65SI

Jjitsuboy98

So why Black Rose instead of Seducer? Is it because the extra stamina regeneration from the constitution passive? One could argue that the Magicka return from Seducer is better.

BuggeX

you could allways say wath camp you running, there is a huge difference between cps and non cps...

my Setup is optimized for azuras... i Play somethimes on tf and hell... i never run out of ressources. near oneshoot. tanky af. it just feals like beeing in 1.5

Etaniel

BuggeX wrote: »

you could allways say wath camp you running, there is a huge difference between cps and non cps...

my Setup is optimized for azuras... i Play somethimes on tf and hell... i never run out of ressources. near oneshoot. tanky af. it just feals like beeing in 1.5

The fact I showed my CP dlearly shows I'm playing on a cp campaign though...

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

So why Black Rose instead of Seducer? Is it because the extra stamina regeneration from the constitution passive? One could argue that the Magicka return from Seducer is better.

Because desert rose + black rose is already plenty enough of magicka, nearly infinite when you get focused, so seducer would be overkill. Plus the regen is useless while in mist form, and I spam that a lot.

Ishammael wrote: »

How good, exactly, is Desert Rose?

If you're doing group fights I'm thinking you have close to 100% proc rate... Which is more or less infinite mana.
But what about when it's <4 people or you are running solo?

Solo actually works out because you are the only target, so all the more chance to get procs. The more people in your group, the less effective it becomes. You might wanna replace desert rose with seducer if you run in big groups I guess.

WillhelmBlack

Been using Grothdarr, Rattlecage and Desert Rose for a bit but currently farming Lich. Do you think Lich could out perform Desert Rose in open world?

WillhelmBlack

Ishammael wrote: »

How good, exactly, is Desert Rose?

If you're doing group fights I'm thinking you have close to 100% proc rate... Which is more or less infinite mana.
But what about when it's <4 people or you are running solo?

Less than 4 it's really poor. You're relying on potions.

Jjitsuboy98

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

How good, exactly, is Desert Rose?

If you're doing group fights I'm thinking you have close to 100% proc rate... Which is more or less infinite mana.
But what about when it's <4 people or you are running solo?

Less than 4 it's really poor. You're relying on potions.

More than four your dead anyways unless they all suck.

Etaniel

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

How good, exactly, is Desert Rose?

If you're doing group fights I'm thinking you have close to 100% proc rate... Which is more or less infinite mana.
But what about when it's <4 people or you are running solo?

Less than 4 it's really poor. You're relying on potions.

More than four your dead anyways unless they all suck.

The majority of Cyrodiil sucks though

BuggeX

Etaniel wrote: »

Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Ishammael wrote: »

How good, exactly, is Desert Rose?

If you're doing group fights I'm thinking you have close to 100% proc rate... Which is more or less infinite mana.
But what about when it's <4 people or you are running solo?

Less than 4 it's really poor. You're relying on potions.

More than four your dead anyways unless they all suck.

The majority of Cyrodiil sucks though

doesnt matter, Wrobel will fix it for thus

Mojomonkeyman

The second build is the nicest magDK duo build I had a buddy running. He could keep up with my Stamsorc in all aspects and dish out huge damage, which I consider pretty strong end result overall.

Boomboom

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Been using Grothdarr, Rattlecage and Desert Rose for a bit but currently farming Lich. Do you think Lich could out perform Desert Rose in open world?

I'm not magDK expert. But i think warlock, magicka furnace, or desert rose would be better than lich because you'd lose out on the recovery of lich while mist forming.

Sanct16

Here some thoughts you might want to consider:
- Wouldn't you be better off replacing the Recovery enchant with a Spell Damage one and change your Mundus to the Atronach?
- 66 points into Spell Erosion grant you only 5.5% extra damage. If you put those points into Thaumaturge you get 15% extra damage on your dots (which is most of your damage) as well as 10% extra damage against off-balance targets.
- Using Shattering Rocks morph (over Petrify) allows you to set targets off-balance more often, which lets you use Power Lash on them as well as it gives you 10% extra damage a lot of the time if you have the passive. Not getting the immobilize feels acceptable considering you can use Talons to root people anyway.

Etaniel

Sanct16 wrote: »

Here some thoughts you might want to consider:
- Wouldn't you be better off replacing the Recovery enchant with a Spell Damage one and change your Mundus to the Atronach?
- 66 points into Spell Erosion grant you only 5.5% extra damage. If you put those points into Thaumaturge you get 15% extra damage on your dots (which is most of your damage) as well as 10% extra damage against off-balance targets.
- Using Shattering Rocks morph (over Petrify) allows you to set targets off-balance more often, which lets you use Power Lash on them as well as it gives you 10% extra damage a lot of the time if you have the passive. Not getting the immobilize feels acceptable considering you can use Talons to root people anyway.

-I guess I don't mention it in the video, the recovery glyph is only there so that i have a bit of regen in between fights. It's completely replaceable with a spell dmg glyph while still keeping the mage mundus.

-I'll be honest I didn't really do the math for the CP, i just put them where it felt right haha, i'll give that a try !

-I've tried the other morph, but without the 10% additional dmg passive, so that might be why I wasn't entirely convinced !

Thanks for the input

WillhelmBlack

I've only ever used Shattering Rocks but I thought I'd give Petrify a go. It burns way more stamina!

ziaodix

I like petrify, because you can use it and talons on the same person simultaneously and make them use even more stamina.

Vanzen

Using Rattle / Desert Rose for a while, its amazing. Désert Rose is in my opinion the most op mass pvp set you can get.

But I am delusional ? I went from impen to full sturdy (7 pieces) , one cost block reduc enchant And 50 block cp points, and my survivability went trough the roof despite 0 impen. I can almost perma block and didnt have to sacrifice anything xept 174 spell dam.

Derra

Put this in the combat and skills section you scrub!

Nser

Nser

nice build xd