Flawless conqueror needs a massive nerf.

SilentBoomstick

I'm sure you all know by now what the title flawless conqueror comes from so I don't need to explain it for you. These people that have this title are too overpowered at this game and I can't compete with their level of skill. I beat dark souls 2 and platinumed the game. Then I played dark souls 3 and quit after the first boss because of how pointless it felt trying to git guud at the game. That game died out a long time ago so I will never beat the game. Now in this game I see these 1vxers and god moded duelers that you cannot kill even though you try to kill them with proc sets (I don't use proc sets).

We need to make it to where immediately after they get the title we nerf the amount of damage and healing can do on all of their characters and make it harder for them to survive if we cannot compete with their level of skill.

Tryxus

Stoopid_Nwah

I want this to be a joke, but I really don't think you're kidding. You know skyrim remastered came out a bit ago...

Father_X_Zombie

I agree, nerf the loot chest I'm maelstrom too, im sick of getting sharpened 2h and inferno staffs. Also the 7th stage could use a buff to the poison.

Kutsuu

I also find it pretty unfair that these scientists and engineers make super OP builds and beat other players in PVP who don't have time for all that. This game is going to die if casual players can't be on the same playing field as those who put in the extra effort. L2P is very offensive and demoralizing to players who shouldn't be forced into doing things in order to enjoy the game. Insult to injury is that animation cancelling macro users can kill you too fast while trying to do other stuff like watch TV.

SilentBoomstick

Kutsuu wrote: »

I think you have a good point. I also find it pretty unfair that people can put in a lot of time testing and min/maxing a build, attaining BiS gear for it, that they then play to its strengths and beat other players in PVP who don't have time for all that. This game is going to die if casual players can't easily farm those who put in the extra effort. L2P is very offensive and demoralizing to players who shouldn't be forced into doing things in order to enjoy the game. Insult to injury is that you have to play with two hands and pay attention while <insert mainstream tv show> is on.

I think you're right.

kadar

Tryxus wrote: »

@Tryxus , you meme game is on point.

There need be no other comment on this thread.

bebynnag

Im lucky i do not need the validation an in game achievement offers me to validate my existence.
And even better I have health problems (severe arthritis in my right hand) that i can blame for my inability to complete vMA.

I cant begin to imagine what it must be like for people who are having to come to terms with the fact that this particular content, in this particular game is not for them. of course they feel the need to blame the developers & accuse other players of cheating because if they cant complete the content then there must be something wrong with the content!

Lord-Otto

Let's talk about gold upgrade materials. You can buy them from people who farm for it with your gold you farmed for. This needs to be reworked, it needs to be bind on pickup for materials and ingredients. Everything else is pay to win.

SilentBoomstick

Lord-Otto wrote: »

Let's talk about gold upgrade materials. You can buy them from people who farm for it with your gold you farmed for. This needs to be reworked, it needs to be bind on pickup for materials and ingredients. Everything else is pay to win.

They also need to reduce research times. I have been playing this game since it came out on consoles and I'm still not finished researching every single trait. It takes an entire month with that passive maxed out to research one trait, there are like 14 armors so in clothing not to mention it takes a lot of time until you can move onto the next trait to get to the 9th trait. People say it only takes 6 months to research everything but they lie because the time does not add up. I did the math and in clothing it would take 420 days to research every single ninth trait, not counting the 8th trait which takes 22 days or the 7th trait which takes like 15 days so on and so forth. It is a complete and utter waste of time to have to wait at least 5 months before you can craft a decent set in only one area of expertise. I have never played any other MMOs where you have to spend so much freaking time researching stuff in order to craft gear.

Stoopid_Nwah wrote: »

I want this to be a joke, but I really don't think you're kidding. You know skyrim remastered came out a bit ago...

Well I mean I have had 4 threads removed already for trolling and I don't want to get a suspension so you can be the judge of that.

GreenSoup2HoT

It would be nice if vMA gave you a complete per round to get flawless. I dont care personally for the achievement as i am strickly a pvper and dont pve.

IlCanis_LupuslI

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

I'm sure you all know by now what the title flawless conqueror comes from so I don't need to explain it for you. These people that have this title are too overpowered at this game and I can't compete with their level of skill. I beat dark souls 2 and platinumed the game. Then I played dark souls 3 and quit after the first boss because of how pointless it felt trying to git guud at the game. That game died out a long time ago so I will never beat the game. Now in this game I see these 1vxers and god moded duelers that you cannot kill even though you try to kill them with proc sets (I don't use proc sets).

We need to make it to where immediately after they get the title we nerf the amount of damage and healing can do on all of their characters and make it harder for them to survive if we cannot compete with their level of skill.

They are just very good at fighting and usually have Golf moovement..... But if you have 1 healer why trying to nail flawless conquerer you shouldn't have any problems if you manage to keep that bugger of him lol. He should heal you through the bursts of damage ...

Ourorboros

This is ESO, not some other game you played. Virtually all content can be done by most players, including VMA. However, content at that level does require more time commitment to learn and beat the mechanics, plus avoid RNG deaths. zos has done a lot to cater to casual players, including One Tamriel. Most of the game is too easy. It's great that there is still some content that requires effort to push through. The Flawless Conqueror title would be worthless if it didn't require any effort. I know a lot of players with the title, but they had to put in effort to get it. I haven't tackled VMA yet because I spend too much time in game chasing other achievements. But I know that it is something I can do, with time and effort, because others have paved the way. I hope zos never goes so far in caving to casuals as to make all content easy for them, especially knowing those with the title EARNED it.

BTW, your math is off on research times. I completed my last ninth trait before the end of my 13th month, and only the last month benefited from ESO+ , since it didn't exist before then. There are valid game complaints, like PVP lagfest, but if working game mechanics are too much trouble, play a different game.

bellanca6561n

That nature of all multiplayer online games with combat is that fewer than 5% of the players can kick the living backsides out of the other 95%.

Gear doesn't change that. It was just as true in Air Warrior - a game with fixed gear - as it is in games with all manner of gear.

This is where the multiplayer part comes in. Chances are - literally - that some players, if they catch you alone, will kill you...every time.

This is also one reason why muliplayer games will never be as popular as single player games which operate in a manner similar to religion: you can get where you want to be through devotion alone.

Rohamad_Ali

Try resetting your phaser to fun . Too many people are in a hurry to be the best . Those people had to do a lot of PVE and gear building to get that way before enjoying the ride . Some have a two year head start but cutting corners won't make anyone better . Put in the work I always say .

TrueGreenSmoker

LOL!!!

SilentBoomstick

Ourorboros wrote: »

This is ESO, not some other game you played. Virtually all content can be done by most players, including VMA. However, content at that level does require more time commitment to learn and beat the mechanics, plus avoid RNG deaths. zos has done a lot to cater to casual players, including One Tamriel. Most of the game is too easy. It's great that there is still some content that requires effort to push through. The Flawless Conqueror title would be worthless if it didn't require any effort. I know a lot of players with the title, but they had to put in effort to get it. I haven't tackled VMA yet because I spend too much time in game chasing other achievements. But I know that it is something I can do, with time and effort, because others have paved the way. I hope zos never goes so far in caving to casuals as to make all content easy for them, especially knowing those with the title EARNED it.

BTW, your math is off on research times. I completed my last ninth trait before the end of my 13th month, and only the last month benefited from ESO+ , since it didn't exist before then. There are valid game complaints, like PVP lagfest, but if working game mechanics are too much trouble, play a different game.

13th month? So it is for certain that it takes a lot longer than 6 months? Why the hell did I see people saying they can craft 9 trait sets during the thieves guild update in guild roster writings on consoles? This utterly annoys me how people think they can get away with spreading lies like this.

Unsent.Soul

Nerf soulgems.... damn they revive too much!

Izaki

Yeah nerf those guys! Anyone who is a flawless conqueror should get a permanent 20% damage done reduction and a permanent 20% more damage taken (wait did I just... I'll change my sig then no one will know). Also agree on the theory crafting part. Those guys should get their stats nerfed. Gold mats should drop every 10 refined mats. Remove soul gems from the game. Trait research should be in minutes instead of hours.

Yea plz ZOS listen to ur players for once.

mertusta

I did my flawless on my eleventh run with templar. There is a reason why it is "flawless". Leave it as it is, and please do not say nerf this or that when you cannot accomplish something.

Ourorboros

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

This is ESO, not some other game you played. Virtually all content can be done by most players, including VMA. However, content at that level does require more time commitment to learn and beat the mechanics, plus avoid RNG deaths. zos has done a lot to cater to casual players, including One Tamriel. Most of the game is too easy. It's great that there is still some content that requires effort to push through. The Flawless Conqueror title would be worthless if it didn't require any effort. I know a lot of players with the title, but they had to put in effort to get it. I haven't tackled VMA yet because I spend too much time in game chasing other achievements. But I know that it is something I can do, with time and effort, because others have paved the way. I hope zos never goes so far in caving to casuals as to make all content easy for them, especially knowing those with the title EARNED it.

BTW, your math is off on research times. I completed my last ninth trait before the end of my 13th month, and only the last month benefited from ESO+ , since it didn't exist before then. There are valid game complaints, like PVP lagfest, but if working game mechanics are too much trouble, play a different game.

13th month? So it is for certain that it takes a lot longer than 6 months? Why the hell did I see people saying they can craft 9 trait sets during the thieves guild update in guild roster writings on consoles? This utterly annoys me how people think they can get away with spreading lies like this.

Research can be completed faster than 13 months if it is spread across multiple characters and/or accounts. So the referenced claims could be valid. But to research all traits on one character takes just over a year. Any time less than that just means the research is spread across alts, which is valid. It used to be common, but the addition of motif chapters and some very rare motifs made this less practical if the crafter was also trying to keep up learning motifs as well as traits.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150979/race-to-the-trait-research-finish-line-winner-gyudan#latest

Skinzz

This thread is just screaming of scrubs trying dumb down the game even more.

SHADOW2KK

Nerf Whiners..

WhiteMage

Nerf vMA stage 7 round 4

Only thing keeping me from flawless.

bellanca6561n

xskinzcity wrote: »

This thread is just screaming of scrubs trying dumb down the game even more.

Not exactly. Single player games deliver one understandable expectation. But in multiplayer games you cannot be more than you are.

Despite the heavy fantasy elements, despite all the magic, special effects, battle leveling, and so one - despite all of that - the fundamental lesson of every online game, no matter how much developers try to shield you from it, is that some players will be better at the core game regardless of gear.

Nerfing this or that does nothing to alter this fact. You cannot be more than you are. So find out who you are and go with that.

So you're not a mighty 1vx warrior. So the **** what?

Vaoh

Nerf Flawless Conquerors huh?

Well I'm a Flawless Conqueror AND I solo Vet dungeons.....

....what nerfs you got planned for me?

Tyrion87

Vaoh wrote: »

Nerf Flawless Conquerors huh?

Well I'm a Flawless Conqueror AND I solo Vet dungeons.....

....what nerfs you got planned for me?

You shouldn't be just nerfed, you should be banned

Madamova

Kutsuu wrote: »

I also find it pretty unfair that these scientists and engineers make super OP builds and beat other players in PVP who don't have time for all that. This game is going to die if casual players can't be on the same playing field as those who put in the extra effort. L2P is very offensive and demoralizing to players who shouldn't be forced into doing things in order to enjoy the game. Insult to injury is that animation cancelling macro users can kill you too fast while trying to do other stuff like watch TV.

lol - love the sarcasm!

Mojmir

Tryxus wrote: »

Juhasow

What the... I'll post something constructive when I'll stop laughing.

SilentBoomstick

Ourorboros wrote: »

Research can be completed faster than 13 months if it is spread across multiple characters and/or accounts. So the referenced claims could be valid. But to research all traits on one character takes just over a year. Any time less than that just means the research is spread across alts, which is valid. It used to be common, but the addition of motif chapters and some very rare motifs made this less practical if the crafter was also trying to keep up learning motifs as well as traits.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/150979/race-to-the-trait-research-finish-line-winner-gyudan#latest

I got so annoyed with people in the chat this morning that claimed it took them 6 months. This one guy said it took him 81 days although I am well aware this guy was being a gigantic troll. If you think about it it makes no sense to have multiple crafting characters because certain racial styles are either too difficult to obtain or too expensive to buy. At least now I know how this is true.