Maintenance on a weekend?

Sigma957

Currently it's Saturday night here in Aus so while I wait for eso to go back online I think I will play skyrim remastered or witcher 3

Ravereth

sinnà

Oh. My. God. The feeling when you haven't played all week and finally have the time to open the game and it saaaays..... servers are down for maintenance. Seriously. Is this for real happening and of course it's from 11.am to 6.pm. Soo basically the whole day. Awesome, so incredibly awesome.

Necrelios

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

We have discovered an issue that requires us to publish a small hotfix on all platforms which will begin tomorrow, November 12 at 4:00am EST / 9:00 UTC. As we were already in the process of prepping for the next PC incremental patch, we will also be publishing PC patch v2.6.9 during this downtime (due to this maintenance, we will not be having our regularly-scheduled PC maintenance on Monday, November 14).

We’re currently estimating console downtime to be approximately 4 hours, and PC/Mac downtime to be closer to 6 hours. We’ll update the banner at the top of the forum as each maintenance is complete, and will publish the PC patch notes during tomorrow's maintenance.

Thanks for your patience!

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

What is the reason for this weekend maintenance? are there any official words @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

It seems they "discovered an issue." I assume this translates into discovering some form of exploit as it appears they left this (intentionally?) vague and ambiguous.

Hammy01

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

What is the reason for this weekend maintenance? are there any official words @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

From what I have read on Reddit... People are exploiting VMA to get more than 2 weapons during the Orsinium event (Iguess there are videos of people getting 4 after each run).

If in fact this is the reason for the hotfix then any and all who exploited this bug should absolutely get banned as they have caused a great inconvenience to a lot of us!!

Mojmir

Necrelios wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

We have discovered an issue that requires us to publish a small hotfix on all platforms which will begin tomorrow, November 12 at 4:00am EST / 9:00 UTC. As we were already in the process of prepping for the next PC incremental patch, we will also be publishing PC patch v2.6.9 during this downtime (due to this maintenance, we will not be having our regularly-scheduled PC maintenance on Monday, November 14).

We’re currently estimating console downtime to be approximately 4 hours, and PC/Mac downtime to be closer to 6 hours. We’ll update the banner at the top of the forum as each maintenance is complete, and will publish the PC patch notes during tomorrow's maintenance.

Thanks for your patience!

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

What is the reason for this weekend maintenance? are there any official words @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

It seems they "discovered an issue." I assume this translates into discovering some form of exploit as it appears they left this intentionally vague and ambiguous.

Someone found a way to get double weapons from VMA

Rasimir

If its really the drops in VMA, I call this bs. There were (and still are) so many glitches in the game that took weeks until fixed, some are never fixed at all. This one with a bound drop needs a hotfix and can't wait until monday?

blackdragon06

Mojmir wrote: »

Necrelios wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hi everyone,

We have discovered an issue that requires us to publish a small hotfix on all platforms which will begin tomorrow, November 12 at 4:00am EST / 9:00 UTC. As we were already in the process of prepping for the next PC incremental patch, we will also be publishing PC patch v2.6.9 during this downtime (due to this maintenance, we will not be having our regularly-scheduled PC maintenance on Monday, November 14).

We’re currently estimating console downtime to be approximately 4 hours, and PC/Mac downtime to be closer to 6 hours. We’ll update the banner at the top of the forum as each maintenance is complete, and will publish the PC patch notes during tomorrow's maintenance.

Thanks for your patience!

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

What is the reason for this weekend maintenance? are there any official words @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

It seems they "discovered an issue." I assume this translates into discovering some form of exploit as it appears they left this intentionally vague and ambiguous.

Someone found a way to get double weapons from VMA

So what ? Exploiting an another [z] bug(!!!) by some people... is not a reason to rollback everyone on saturday !

Tia413

Rasimir wrote: »

Lets face it: they think of europe as a region in turmoil, with mad people all around, and they couldn't care less. America first is it and was for some since ever. Europeans don't matter at all. This maintenance schedule isn't that bad for NA people.

Any maintenance schedule is bad for someone, no matter where we live.

But games need to be maintained. It's a given.

And this is the reason why having 1 server with 2 different regions in it is bad. I mean, I feel bad for EU, NZ, Australian players. I do.

Because everything done to this game is usually on NA time. And with having time zones of +5 - +12 hours difference on the same server is a disaster waiting to happen.

Hence why we have these constant forum fights on Maintenance days.

But what is Zos to do? If they take the game down at a time which is better for EU players they then run into an issue with NA players. Example: Zos wants to do maintenance at 6AM (NA time). With their history of long downtimes that would mean the game wouldn't be back up in NA even until Noon-ish. But that 6AM time frame then equals out to EU players to be... +5 = 11AM, +6 - Noon, +12 = 6PM.

And a good sown time for EU players would be , lets say 2 AM (so the 6 hour downtime would have the server back up by 8 AM for them). Now we have a reversed situation here. To take the servers down at 2AM in NA would mean (-5) = 9PM, (-6) =
8 PM and (- 12) = 2PM.

There isn't 1 person whom any of this would make them happy.

Best scenario is to just do 2 different maintenances. at 2 different times.

But I don't think we will see Zos do that.

*NOTE If there are mistakes in my calculations... blame it on NOT ENOUGH COFFEE yet LOL

Tia413

Hammy01 wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

What is the reason for this weekend maintenance? are there any official words @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

From what I have read on Reddit... People are exploiting VMA to get more than 2 weapons during the Orsinium event (Iguess there are videos of people getting 4 after each run).

If in fact this is the reason for the hotfix then any and all who exploited this bug should absolutely get banned as they have caused a great inconvenience to a lot of us!!

Actually the Hotfix is to fix this https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3518121#Comment_3518121

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3517009#Comment_3517009

Taken from Dev Tracker.

essi2

Saturday 6 hour Maintenance is abit of a braindead decision, all weekdays are not equal.

But Tyranny just released, so guess I'll have a look at that in the meantime.

GrimMauKin

The issue isn't really the hotfix which I imagine could have been applied quickly and possibly without taking the servers down. It's the decision to apply Monday's incremental patch prime time (for EU) on a Saturday which I assume accounts for the 6 hour outage.

Tia413

I am going to play Anno 2205. Later all have fun complaining and fighting about which time zone should be the most important.

I am OUT OF HERE

vlakipn

Rosveen

Every time I think ZOS has reached the pinnacle of poor judgement, they manage to surprise me.

altair1969

thank's very much for the europeans gamers , thk Zénimax !

P3ZZL3

I think it's funny all these people complaining about when the servers go down.

I work a 170 hours week which doesn't leave much time for gaming!

SirCritical

You know, I would accept if there were some exploiters doing their "job" until Monday, but I'd really like to play on the weekend. I know maybe I'm alone with my opinion, but sry, I have time for playing mostly on the weekends, so I'm a bit frustrated now.

Hammy01

Tia413 wrote: »

Hammy01 wrote: »

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

What is the reason for this weekend maintenance? are there any official words @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

From what I have read on Reddit... People are exploiting VMA to get more than 2 weapons during the Orsinium event (Iguess there are videos of people getting 4 after each run).

If in fact this is the reason for the hotfix then any and all who exploited this bug should absolutely get banned as they have caused a great inconvenience to a lot of us!!

Actually the Hotfix is to fix this https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3518121#Comment_3518121

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/3517009#Comment_3517009

Taken from Dev Tracker.

Huh? Nowhere in the links you posted does it say that today's hotfix is for Proc Sets... it actually states that they are"exploring some solutions for the current situation with proc sets". The fact that they are "exploring" some solutions would be a strong indicator that there is nothing to hotfix/patch for proc-set issues at this time.

I am still leaning towards today's hotfix is for the 'VMA multiple weapon exploit" but unless ZOS clearly states what today's patch is for then it is just a guessing game for us all.

Valiaron

P3ZZL3 wrote: »

I work a 170 hours week which doesn't leave much time for gaming!

I call ***!! :-) last time I checked, there was only 168 hours in a week :-P

dbonifaci_ESO

Very lame. You don't decide to add a full maintenance on a weekend. This pretty much wipes out my playtime for today, as I usually play from 5am-11am EST Saturdays. For EU, it's even worse. It's the friggin weekend. Monday morning maintenence's are pretty much irrelevant for most people as they are working.

Terrible decision.

SirCritical

EdgarLecter wrote: »

At least we are not getting a maintenance at this monday.

You know, I wouldn't care a sht about a maintenance on Monday. In the last few weeks I got my free days mostly on Monday (I had to work on the weekends), and I was *** up because of the maintenances. Now I'm at home, and it is maintentance again.

Sry, I'm a bit frustrated. Sure, I have life IR, and I can find another things to do, but I wanted to play. ZOS made me miss the opportunity.

Armitas

A lot of them just came in on the weekend for us, holiday weekend even. So we may not be able to play this morning but at least we are not at work. Thank you for coming in on the weekend for this ZOS, it was getting out of hand in PvP. Also, I wonder if we don't see some little nugget in the hotfix for VMA.

UrbanMonk

I hope this URGENT FIX includes an option to turn off those notifications every time some one clears vMSA or trial...I'm so sick of them lately...but even that is not urgent enough reason for SATURDAY MAINTENANCE...

Shame on you ZOS...ripping customer every week at least 8-12 hours of playtime and not even acknowledging or apologiesing for it...

Giatuareg

yeah we can all understand all technical reasons but... i quote this is very lame on saturday!!!!

BlanketFort

NA and/or the unemployed/students probably don't care about this as much. Some from NA even see EU as "whiny", since we pretty much complain about downtime. I'd say, downtime is alright, at the right time, not during the late morning until late afternoon! I'd love for ZOS to give NA the EU maintenance treatment, and see if they'd just sit through it without a single complaint.

There had better been a seriously game-breaking problem to have warranted a hot fix downtime on a Saturday! Because if it wasn't, then why do we have to sit through all the bugs that are still in the game that haven't been given any attention, hmm? Help us calm down, tell us what needed urgent fixing. It it was something serious, then we'll most likely be able to get over it, despite the massive inconvenience.
It better not have been a fix because a couple of stones were a couple shades of grey off. I'm Exaggerating, I know, but you get my point.

MornaBaine

SIX freaking hours on a Saturday???? Seriously???

goldenarcher1

Must be a game-breaker to have all servers across all platforms down at once.

Natch Potes?

nvsg

Skitttles wrote: »

You all sound like that annoying mom with the short hair cut in the grocery store demanding to see the manager.

Im soo dead rn xD

BlanketFort

Tia413 wrote: »

Rasimir wrote: »

Lets face it: they think of europe as a region in turmoil, with mad people all around, and they couldn't care less. America first is it and was for some since ever. Europeans don't matter at all. This maintenance schedule isn't that bad for NA people.

Any maintenance schedule is bad for someone, no matter where we live.

But games need to be maintained. It's a given.

And this is the reason why having 1 server with 2 different regions in it is bad. I mean, I feel bad for EU, NZ, Australian players. I do.

Because everything done to this game is usually on NA time. And with having time zones of +5 - +12 hours difference on the same server is a disaster waiting to happen.

Hence why we have these constant forum fights on Maintenance days.

But what is Zos to do? If they take the game down at a time which is better for EU players they then run into an issue with NA players. Example: Zos wants to do maintenance at 6AM (NA time). With their history of long downtimes that would mean the game wouldn't be back up in NA even until Noon-ish. But that 6AM time frame then equals out to EU players to be... +5 = 11AM, +6 - Noon, +12 = 6PM.

And a good sown time for EU players would be , lets say 2 AM (so the 6 hour downtime would have the server back up by 8 AM for them). Now we have a reversed situation here. To take the servers down at 2AM in NA would mean (-5) = 9PM, (-6) =
8 PM and (- 12) = 2PM.

There isn't 1 person whom any of this would make them happy.

Best scenario is to just do 2 different maintenances. at 2 different times.

But I don't think we will see Zos do that.

*NOTE If there are mistakes in my calculations... blame it on NOT ENOUGH COFFEE yet LOL

It is seriously bad business practice to completely disregard their EU customers. How about they let NA go through the inconvenience, from time to time.