sorc nerfed again....?

blimsta

Do the new sets do more damage?

Have the shields been scaled to the new damage everyone can do?

I would like to know whats going on. I see my shield last less than the globle cd on the cas. I would like some help as to why even spamming a shield, use up all my magicka then die wouldnt even work?? seems pointless but it says something about the shield state no?

So lets say this is true and nothing was scaled for new set's and somehow counters this, the only build I seem playable now is the 2 pet and 3 shield bar setup.

Please dont just tell me I'm wong. I would like to know why. I dont have all day to play a game that MIGHT be broken to find out. I work very hard and havent the time as it is keeping up with the patches/chhanges as it is.

RinaldoGandolphi

This has been the case for quite sometime now. I have made these cases, but for whatever reason the devs won't address shields.

We have a CP star that increases damage to them, and they keep upping damage every patch but shields are not scaling along with the increase in damage due to power creep for gear and increasing CP.

Even with 50k magicka, damage shield should be obsolete completely in PVP in the next 3 updates if the power creep continues as even 50k magicka won;t be enough for a shield to last more then 1 hit and for its casting cost it will simply no longer make sense to even bother using them...in PVP anyways.

Right now with 43k Max Magicka, 84 points into Bastion, and 44 points in bother Elemental Defender and Hardy give sme around a 12.1k damage shield in PVP that is good for exactly 1 hit from any proper stam build, and with all these proc builds this means damage will bleed through your sheilds(say a hit does 10k damage and you only have a 6 k sheild then 4 k gets though and that 4k can crit)

But hey....Major Evasion just keeps getting better and better with cheaper cost, a set that makes dodge better(Crusader), and more damage to those stam skills.

At this point, there is simply no way to make mag builds competitive open world(Im not taking about duels im talking about open world pvp) in the games current state.

All the mobility options for magic classes are nerfed(Bolt Escape, Major Expedition(Used to be 40% not its 30%) while Stam builds get cheaper sprint, faster sprint, can dodge roll, break free, etc pretty much perpetually and they get immunity to roots and snares for dirt cheap in comparison to magic purge(which won't give immunity)

Right now magicka is only good for support roles and large groups...you don't have the mobility to run around alone, you don't have the bust stam has, and sheilds are garbage compared to dodge and major evasion.....the only thing magic Sorc is good for now is being a Negate monkey in a group...and maybe using the Destro ultimate in some pain train.

The only magic build that is even competitive in Cyrodiil right now is the Magicka Templar and its only competive because it doesn't due in 2 seconds to the proc meta and has a few attacks that can't be dodged by major evasion and they can be pretty tanky...outside of that...meh

If you want to play a sorc, roll a stam sorc...its better then Mag sorc was even at launch in 2014...even the Infinite Negate Sorcs of the early days could move and output the damage Stma Sorc does..its comical really...but hey....thats the game for ya.

WuffyCerulei

People say magicka sorcs are dead, but you have to learn to play them. It's not so easy anymore since you can't meerly stack 2 20-second shields and be unkillable. Also, with all the new sets, magicka builds can really pump out the deeps.

Magicka_DK

Unblockable Curse....How annoying is it? Haven't played new update

NBrookus

Magicka_DK wrote: »

Unblockable Curse....How annoying is it? Haven't played new update

Not as bad as a set proc.

The buff certainly hurts tanky mag DK builds more than others. Sorcs still can't frag us unless they catch us unaware or Cc'd, but Curse gets through. It does make it hard for a mDK to handle competent sorc pressure because it's hard to get in melee range with them to get a heal.

Not gonna complain about it tho; mag sorcs needed the buff.

WuffyCerulei

NBrookus wrote: »

Magicka_DK wrote: »

Unblockable Curse....How annoying is it? Haven't played new update

Not as bad as a set proc.

The buff certainly hurts tanky mag DK builds more than others. Sorcs still can't frag us unless they catch us unaware or Cc'd, but Curse gets through. It does make it hard for a mDK to handle competent sorc pressure because it's hard to get in melee range with them to get a heal.

Not gonna complain about it tho; mag sorcs needed the buff.

We did, and careful of insta-cast frags. Those can hurt like a beach (mine hit fairly hard.)

blimsta

How many nerfs has this class had now then? A all round damage buff is going to hit a shield dependent class/build hard so in my mind this it a nerf.


Can we just be clear and make a list of nerfs.

*healing nerf
*shield duration nerf
*resistance nerf
*game wide damage increase but no shield scaling/ nerf


Can anyone think of anything else nerfed or class dependent changes, didn't we also get a nerf to the crystal frags?

blimsta

WuffyCerulei wrote: »

People say magicka sorcs are dead, but you have to learn to play them. It's not so easy anymore since you can't meerly stack 2 20-second shields and be unkillable. Also, with all the new sets, magicka builds can really pump out the deeps.

yeah but how boring is it to keep having to spam shields all the time so you dont get downed in 1 second. That alone has reduced damage output.

blimsta

One nerf has more than one negative effect, its more like 5 per nerf. Game play as a hole is boring with people doing two hit kills now.

What I dont understand is how a decision like this can be made. I mean a 5 second shield, unbreakable 3 sec cc's, 2 hit kills. The sorc op thing doesnt even stand up to the proc set op bs we now have in the game.

why nerf a 2 year old thing to just change everything anyway, its so stupid. Bit like the server performance.

The only thing I can relate this to is wow and when a dev family member played a hunter and a rumour got about that she got killed by this one particular mage and the hunter class got stupid buffs and the mage class got screwed, apart from one play style that required a pocket healer.