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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Trainee set problem (make hybrids great again !)

Juhasow
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The trainee set looks to be best choice to make playable hybrid builds for PvP that many people was waiting for and it would work great in many combinations but there is 1 little problem - it drops with training trait only .

Why cant we get wider loot table for this set? I know it drops on starter maps and people that playing there mostly leveling up so it's good for them to get traits that makes leveling faster , but this zones are leaved by those people so fast they dont even get full set before they'll leave starter maps. There s many people waiting to create unique builds not following present cancer meta and this set would be great chance to do this.

Please Zenimax thing again about Trainee set and make loot table for it wider.
Edited by Juhasow on 20 October 2016 16:23
  • susmitds
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    The issue is that it would make min-max builds, especially StamDKs and StamSorcs much more OP.
  • Jsmalls
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    Yes I'm one of them, was very disappointed in the trait being only training. (Hint you can get a heavy reinforced trainee chest from one of the quests in the starter island)

    +1 from me, make obtainable in all traits please.
  • Juhasow
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    susmitds wrote: »
    The issue is that it would make min-max builds, especially StamDKs and StamSorcs much more OP.

    Seriously You think that changing 2 item pieces from weak trait to trait You want makes build OP ? Most of people would wear trainee jewelery so what we're talking about here is just simple improvement of remaining 2 pieces. And if current stamDK and stamSorcs arent OP enough I dont knwo what is and I dount that Hybrids would beat that but atleast would be enjoyable and playable.
    Edited by Juhasow on 20 October 2016 16:55
  • Didaco
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    Also, Draugr's Hulk is there for stam min maxers, and it does it waaaay better.

    I just finished downloading the patch, I was really excited to see all the changes and stuff...
    But this, after a 20 mins session, totally killed my enthusiasm.

    However, I watched a JackDaniel's video and he was wearing some non-training set pieces...
  • Juhasow
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    @Didaco Draugr Hulk is for builds that want to max just stamina and it have all traits. We're talking here about set that allows people to have both stamina and magicka high enough to find use for skills scaled of both resources in fight.
  • Minno
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    Didaco wrote: »
    Also, Draugr's Hulk is there for stam min maxers, and it does it waaaay better.

    I just finished downloading the patch, I was really excited to see all the changes and stuff...
    But this, after a 20 mins session, totally killed my enthusiasm.

    However, I watched a JackDaniel's video and he was wearing some non-training set pieces...

    They are available in quest rewards. Someone posted the full list in another thread.
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  • Didaco
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    @Didaco Draugr Hulk is for builds that want to max just stamina and it have all traits. We're talking here about set that allows people to have both stamina and magicka high enough to find use for skills scaled of both resources in fight.

    I know, I have 2 hybrid characters :D

    I was answering to susmitds.
    Edited by Didaco on 21 October 2016 04:32
  • nordsavage
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    As long as max stamina and magicka add power to attacks hybrids will stay dead. As well as jamming CP into one type or the other.
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  • acw37162
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    Make this a 9 trait craftable set, please.

    Edit: You can take a CP 160 into the starter areas and if you haven't done the quests so can get unique rewards that come in traits other hen training.

    It puts you at the truest mercy of the RNG Gods but it is possible to get this set in a trait other then training.
    Edited by acw37162 on 21 October 2016 04:49
  • olsborg
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    All the starter quests in the starter zones give a variety of items with reinforced, impen, infused items etc. So you can combine some of those items with jewlery.


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  • arkansas_ESO
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    Trainee wasn't meant to be used at endgame, keep it in training


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  • Biro123
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    olsborg wrote: »
    All the starter quests in the starter zones give a variety of items with reinforced, impen, infused items etc. So you can combine some of those items with jewlery.

    Yep - I got a trainee shield in Ornate!!
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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  • Johngo0036
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    I am building a magicka Dk tank using 5 pce trainee. I use jewelry and 2pce's and don't really care about the 2 pce's training gear.

    This set just gels nicely with my build.
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  • altemriel
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    The trainee set looks to be best choice to make playable hybrid builds for PvP that many people was waiting for and it would work great in many combinations but there is 1 little problem - it drops with training trait only .

    Why cant we get wider loot table for this set? I know it drops on starter maps and people that playing there mostly leveling up so it's good for them to get traits that makes leveling faster , but this zones are leaved by those people so fast they dont even get full set before they'll leave starter maps. There s many people waiting to create unique builds not following present cancer meta and this set would be great chance to do this.

    Please Zenimax thing again about Trainee set and make loot table for it wider.



    wait, it really drops only in training trait??? WTH???
  • Johngo0036
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    @altemriel - yeah it drops in the starter areas and because of that it drops in training trait to assist new player levelling,
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    @Johngo0036
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    Orc Stamina Dragonknight | Gru-Bolar(DC)
    Dunmer Magicka Nightblade | Chewbucca(DC)
    Khajit Stamina Nightblade | Gleaming Daggers(DC)
    Altmer Magicka Nightblade | Miss Chewbucca(EP)
    Argonian Magicka Templar | Walks-With-Friends(EP)
    Argonian Templar Healer | Dr Toxic(EP)
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    Dunmer Magicka DK | Whips-n-Chains(DC)
    Nord Warden | Demi Tank(DC)
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    Bosmer Stamplar | Forest-Plump(DC)
    Argonian Hybrid Nb | Men-O-Paws(DC)
    Bosmer Stamblade | 'Maui(AD)
    Altmer Magicka Sorcerer | Mid-Life-Crisis(AD)


  • Juhasow
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    nordsavage wrote: »
    As long as max stamina and magicka add power to attacks hybrids will stay dead. As well as jamming CP into one type or the other.

    Belive me templar with 36k stamina and 25k magicka having also ~3,4k wep and spell dmg hits nicely from both stamina jabs and magicka RD especially on non CP campaigns.
    Edited by Juhasow on 21 October 2016 12:03
  • altemriel
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    Johngo0036 wrote: »
    @altemriel - yeah it drops in the starter areas and because of that it drops in training trait to assist new player levelling,



    aha, good point. but a bit pitty, as it could help the hybrid builds pretty much, together with this one
    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Pelinal's+Aptitude+Set
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Trainee wasn't meant to be used at endgame, keep it in training

    I think its kind of cool that a set you can get at the beginnging is worth some value endgame.
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