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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Zerg fix

MalakithAlamahdi
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Okay, this probably has been said before but i'll just do it again, cuz it's almost 6am and i seemingly have no life.

You all know the feeling, walking trough Cyrodiil, enjoying the birds sing and blowing up some wolves, when you get a zerg run into you and swallow you whole like our friendly *** whale Moby ***. We had some fixes for this, we added 800 ping to the game with 1.6, proxy det, soul stike, vicious death, and CE meteor spam, but none seem to cut it sadly. We also got IC, where pvp and pve players can enjoy being zerged together. I guess that didn't work that well either, just like my writing classes.

So! We gave the solo players some true WMD's. Radiant Opression, so we can beam the *** with a ray of holy light, [SNIP]...i mean killing them! Malubeth, the ultimate zerg troll, only costing you your soul! Then they nerfed all the magicka classes (with the exception: the Templar), bringing you all the diversity of putting all points into one stat!
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Gab close into keeps, get stuck into the Toppling Charge animation, or be the master of all masters by falling trough the world map!

This, and many epic changes have yet solved the T-bagging zergs in Nirn, but i have come with a solution:

Player collition. Yes, you read that right. Make them get stuck into eachother, get stuck in the doorways, the tunnels, ruin eachoters line of sight, the oppertunities are endless! I hear you say: "But Malakith, what about the ping it will cause!?" Well good sir, don't you worry, you wont notice the difference between 999+ ping and 999+ ping!

#nerfmagickaDK
#Nerfmagickasorc
#Nerfsoultrap
Don't worry, i actually love this game, but fix the balance and many bugs already, it's becoming stale.
Edited by ZOS_PeterT on 15 September 2016 15:20
  • davey1107
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    And this is the first time I have ever suspected or considered that ESO players might be using some mind-altering substances when playing.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Just embrace the Zerg . In all it's mindless beauty . Hug it , farm it , whatever .
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    And this is the first time I have ever suspected or considered that ESO players might be using some mind-altering substances when playing.

    It's just a joke mate :P
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Just embrace the Zerg . In all it's mindless beauty . Hug it , farm it , whatever .

    They leave me no other option :D
  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    Sometimes I feel like Spiderman....

    I'll be reparing a wall at a keep when my console starts to studder. I yell "My lag senses are tingling" and everyone prepares for the incoming onslaught! Next minute there are 25+ EP at the door. :D
    My ping is higher than your resource recovery...
  • Swainburg
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    Okay, this probably has been said before but i'll just do it again, cuz it's almost 6am and i seemingly have no life.

    T-bagging zergs in Nirn
    Don't worry, i actually love this game, but fix the balance and many bugs already, it's becoming stale.

    If I get disrepected by one more zergling... I'm going to do probably nothing, despite how much i hate it. Feels bad.
    Live for the pact... die for the pact.

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  • phairdon
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    Why on earth does the game require a zerg fix. Or more to the point, why do people feel they should be able to dictate to others about the size of group they run in.
    Put the shoe on the other foot. Would you like it, if players suggested there was no place for running solo or in small man groups in Cyrodiil? People can play on their own or in whatever size groups they desire.
    Cyrodiil/Alliance war is designed for large scale battles. Bet a lot of people enjoy them too. Reality is, not everyone has the ability, or the time/desire to get the armor, weapons to run fotm builds, let alone become one of the 'elite'.
    Considering a lot of people do not know what a zerg is, the term becomes confusing, as the term means different things to different people. 1v2 is a zerg, because the one person is outnumbered 2 to 1. Same with 5v4, 10 vs 11, etc, etc, at least if you go buy comments sections in live streams & the forum. My understanding of a zerg for example is, a group of 20-50 players, this comes from another MMO. Whether correct or not, who knows.
    Most of the time when reading discussions like this, or watching streams when this topic comes up, its because someone died in the game and, well, its just not fair.
    Your immersion is breaking my entitlement. Buff Sorc's. Darkshroud the cremator Death by furRubeus BlackFluffy knight BladesThe Fat PantherPsijic Fungal SausageFlesheater the VileCaspian Rafferty FernsbyArchfiend Warlock PiersThe Black BishopEvil Wizard Lizard (EU)Neberra Vestige Fajeon (EU)Salanis Deathstick (EU)Blood Mage Alchemist (EU)
  • Asardes
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    Actually Malubeth is pretty cheap. Vet Wayrest Sewers is one of the fastest dungeons to farm. With experienced group it takes ~10 minutes per run. In update 12 with veteran mode a monster head will drop every time. So don't waste the money at the khajiit :)
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
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  • Sandman929
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    Sometimes I feel like Spiderman....

    I'll be reparing a wall at a keep when my console starts to studder. I yell "My lag senses are tingling" and everyone prepares for the incoming onslaught! Next minute there are 25+ EP at the door. :D

    Nice, I use that too. Some zergs can be sensed when actions stop responding. It's the water ripples in the cup when T-Rex is approaching.
  • Bandit1215
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    Sometimes I feel like Spiderman....

    I'll be reparing a wall at a keep when my console starts to studder. I yell "My lag senses are tingling" and everyone prepares for the incoming onslaught! Next minute there are 25+ EP at the door. :D

    Thanks man, I was in a silent study hall and after reading OP and then yours I LITERALLY bursted out in laughter. Easily the most awkward thing ever.
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  • RajinPVP
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    How to defeat zerg?!... bring a bigger zerg(zos logic)! Im sure those leaders who lead the zerglings woke up every morning and say " ah what a good day i think ill gonna lead a 80 man zerg today! " its kinda hard to avoid zerg as they create lag as they get closer and closer to you and all you need to do is put out your weapon and accept the death that will come upon you!
    Edited by RajinPVP on 12 September 2016 17:01
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Sometimes I feel like Spiderman....

    I'll be reparing a wall at a keep when my console starts to studder. I yell "My lag senses are tingling" and everyone prepares for the incoming onslaught! Next minute there are 25+ EP at the door. :D

    Lol, you need to run the moment the studded starts, any later and the lag will kick in, breaking your streak and leaving you to their mercy!
  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    Me inside the keep looking at the sky filled with Poison Injection/snipes… “Wards up! INCOMING!”Arrows-blot-out-the-sun-800x500.jpg
    My ping is higher than your resource recovery...
  • Jaronking
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    Swainburg wrote: »
    Okay, this probably has been said before but i'll just do it again, cuz it's almost 6am and i seemingly have no life.

    T-bagging zergs in Nirn
    Don't worry, i actually love this game, but fix the balance and many bugs already, it's becoming stale.

    If I get disrepected by one more zergling... I'm going to do probably nothing, despite how much i hate it. Feels bad.

    What makes it worst its usually the low CP player you left alone.
  • thankyourat
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    I just want to be able to run away, but I can't because I can't pop my immovability potion while running so I'm guaranteed to take a crystal frag to the back and get knocked down. Plus all the gap closers snare me so I can't even move. Get rid of those two things first off. Especially the gap closer snare. I also feel the gap closer distance should be way less. I would be happy with 12 meters.
    Edited by thankyourat on 13 September 2016 21:18
  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    the only thing clear in this post is that you are correct about writing classes not helping you
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    the only thing clear in this post is that you are correct about writing classes not helping you

    Part of the joke mate, I wrote it on my phone after being awake for 26 hours, at 6 a.m. :blush:
  • Mr_Nobody
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    Zerg fixes require brains and adjustment. You can surely even the advantages by bringing up skill versus skills-used.

    Meaning 5 skillful guys fighting a group of 30 who are mindlessly spamming Purge and aoe heals - will always lose.

    Imagine if...

    5 skillful guys were fighting a group of 30 who couldnt aoe purge or spam so called "smart heals". Id bet euros on the 5.

    ~

    Grouping (semi to large) in this game requires minimum to zero organizing and skill, just get randoms to follow you and spam 1-2 buttons. I saw some apparently known EP guild Haxus or something, running as 10 and kiting 5 random DC for 3 minutes for reason unknown, my bet was that their purge bots were afk and they did not want to take any risks. Then i saw the very same "good" group clash into a bunch of completely random DC, lets say about 15, not even grouped, with no purge bots etc and get REKT. Guys forget to how to PvP while they are in a grp spamming 1-2 buttons? Lawl

    ~ @Niekas ~




  • jhharvest
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    I'm all for removing "smart" heals from PVP. They should hit yourself unless you're targeting an ally. Healing ward, BoL etc. It's silly how you can just sit behind a corner and not even have a line of sight to your tank that you keep healing.

    I don't mind Purge hitting people in AOE though, and I think Rapids should be restored to how it was.
  • themdogesbite
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    If you want this then dynamic ultimate needs to get back into the game. Its nonsense that a player hitting 10 guys should gain ultimate at the same rate as 10 guys hitting one.
    :]
  • scorpiodog
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    Well at least in IC you get the consolation that they are basically wasting their time. Solo you can get 500 Telvar in just a two rooms. In a group you have to multiply the number of rooms by how many people are in your group. If you aren't in the lead of a large group you basically get zero.

    I tend to avoid groups and go the opposite way. Three is a crowd.

    Also if you are feeling anti-zerg in IC just kite a blue circle boss into them. That's always good for a few laughs as you watch half the group flee every which way.

    I love PvP when there is a banner boss involved. Even if I die I always think "wow, that was kinda wild, lol"
  • Asardes
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    I once saw 2 gankers waiting in one of the districts. Just as the huge spider boss passed them I sniped it from stealth and made it run into them :)
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
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    Member of:
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