Mage's Wrath - Joke of an Execute?

gamerguy757

Maybe it's me, but I wanted to get your opinion on this execute. Now I still play my sorc in PvP, and he SLAYS. I'm talking 30k shields, 10k overloads, and 6k frags, and never passing 50% magic. But there's one problem...MAGE'S WRATH! Is it me, or is this the worst execute? I can bring someone down to 15-5% no problems, then I cast mages wrath, and he's back up to 45% health! Okay, I'm shooting LIGHTNING PEOPLE! Why does the tooltip say "Instant" when in reality, it takes around 1.3s for the spell to hit the player?
Executioner: You can An.Cancel the hit
Killer's Blade: Literal INSTANT hit
Radiant Oppresion: BRUH DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED
Mage's Wrath: Here's some lightning....2 seconds from now!

Tyrion87

I apply my Endless Fury when enemy's (player/mob) health is higher than 20% and then I use my best DPS combo cause when his health falls below 20% within 4 seconds, he is dead or almost dead (so I can reapply the Fury and finish him off).

leepalmer95

Apply it before that. It'll auto proc when they hit 20%

Sharee

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Maybe it's me, but I wanted to get your opinion on this execute. Now I still play my sorc in PvP, and he SLAYS. I'm talking 30k shields, 10k overloads, and 6k frags, and never passing 50% magic. But there's one problem...MAGE'S WRATH! Is it me, or is this the worst execute? I can bring someone down to 15-5% no problems, then I cast mages wrath, and he's back up to 45% health! Okay, I'm shooting LIGHTNING PEOPLE! Why does the tooltip say "Instant" when in reality, it takes around 1.3s for the spell to hit the player?
Executioner: You can An.Cancel the hit
Killer's Blade: Literal INSTANT hit
Radiant Oppresion: BRUH DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED
Mage's Wrath: Here's some lightning....2 seconds from now!

Cast mage's wrath before you bring them to 15-5%.

Thornen

Endless fury is working better than it ever has since they patched it to go off at 20% hits as hard as executioner,killers blade and is ranged...now radiant oppression on the other hand is broken op.

Robbmrp

Trust me, it's not your execute as I see the exact same thing occurring with Radiant Destruction. People are using set combinations to give them burst heals that you wouldn't think possible with battle spirit but are. I don't know the exact set combos but this happens daily in PVP.

I pvp in Azura also so it has nothing to do with CP's.

BFT88

Robbmrp wrote: »

Trust me, it's not your execute as I see the exact same thing occurring with Radiant Destruction. People are using set combinations to give them burst heals that you wouldn't think possible with battle spirit but are. I don't know the exact set combos but this happens daily in PVP.

I pvp in Azura also so it has nothing to do with CP's.

4 piece cheat engine set.

Nestor

As stated above, you need to apply Mages Fury before their Health drops, then get their Health down.

Shadeaux

One of the new sets heals you when you drop below a certain %.

Minalan

As others have said. The wrath execute 'wait for 20% effect' lasts for four seconds after you apply it.

That's really sort of OP if you think about it, not that I'm complaining! But that's how it balances with radiant beams.

gamerguy757

So I guess I've been using it wrong! I'm so used to executes being used when low on health. Maybe I'll try this again!

Lord_Wrath

Ive always used and loved the skill, I get what you mean with the delay, for me its either a delay or instant.

Forestd16b14_ESO

And here i am waiting for molten armaments to be a execute again

imredneckson

gamerguy757 wrote: »

Maybe it's me, but I wanted to get your opinion on this execute. Now I still play my sorc in PvP, and he SLAYS. I'm talking 30k shields, 10k overloads, and 6k frags, and never passing 50% magic. But there's one problem...MAGE'S WRATH! Is it me, or is this the worst execute? I can bring someone down to 15-5% no problems, then I cast mages wrath, and he's back up to 45% health! Okay, I'm shooting LIGHTNING PEOPLE! Why does the tooltip say "Instant" when in reality, it takes around 1.3s for the spell to hit the player?
Executioner: You can An.Cancel the hit
Killer's Blade: Literal INSTANT hit
Radiant Oppresion: BRUH DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED
Mage's Wrath: Here's some lightning....2 seconds from now!

*Magicka DK yells from across the room* at least you have an execute!

Edit: spelling error

gamerguy757

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*Magicka DK yells from across the room* at least you have and execute![/quote]

Well played sir

psychotic13

Mages wrath is actually a great execute if you're using correctly

TequilaFire

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

From a PVE standpoint, this is by far the worst execute in the game. It starts scaling much too late (or the others start too early). In PVP, the trick it to apply it before your burst. If your burst takes them below 20%, they are probably dead.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

TequilaFire wrote: »

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

Sorry for double, um sorcs arent "admitting" anything. This is spelled out in the tool tip and precisely why the execute kicks in at a lower threshold than others. Great in PVP, lame in PVE.

leepalmer95

TequilaFire wrote: »

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

How are you even comparing mage wraith to easy mode jesus beam.

Xeven

Although the spell has gotten better, it's still s***.

Why do I slot it then? Because Sorc is boring AF now, and we really don't have anything else better to slot!

TequilaFire

leepalmer95 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

How are you even comparing mage wraith to easy mode jesus beam.

I am also a sorc that's how.
Get your personal vendetta against RD out of here.
Templar is far harder to play effectively than a sorcerer.

Contraptions

Just wished it would proc at 25% just like most other executes. That's the main change I would make to it.

Izaki

Yep... 20% of 40 million health is pretty lame compared to 25% of 40 million.. So basically NBs can start executing 2 million HP before sorcs can, which is not small at all. If they only brought it up to 24% would be nice...

Destyran

Overload spammable 55k+ button. Gg

Vaoh

TequilaFire wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

How are you even comparing mage wraith to easy mode jesus beam.

I am also a sorc that's how.
Get your personal vendetta against RD out of here.
Templar is far harder to play effectively than a sorcerer.

That.

That's priceless

We all have the right to our own opinions. It's just not expected when people actually say that OP Meta class specs take skill to play.

The reason Magicka Templars are so prevalent in PvP atm is because they are not hard to play effectively. At all. They are easy to play.

And the reason Magicka Sorcs are rare in Cyrodiil now and suck 95% of the time is because they are terrible and extremely difficult to play effectively. In fact, only really good players can continue to play truly strong Magicka Sorcs anymore thanks to nerfs. It's sad

Thornen

TequilaFire wrote: »

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

Not sure how its hypocritical when RD scales from 50% not 20% also is channelled so can't be dodged and the damage tick at 20% is 4x what endless fury does....

smacx250

Destyran wrote: »

Overload spammable 55k+ button. Gg

The bane of the class - everything else is "balanced" taking overload into consideration. I personally find overload terribly boring, and wish it would go away and the other sorc skills be made more meaningful. It's the sorc's elephant in the room. Flame away...

dsalter

i dunno, still feels kinda meh compared to all the other executes, could use a slight buff. either the timer till debuff wears off or the damage.

TequilaFire

Vaoh wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Hmmm, finally glad to see sorcs admit that you can cast wrath before target is in execute range and it will still proc.
Kinda hypocritical to complain about RD doing that don't you think?
I love mages wrath on my sorc as much as RD on my templar.

How are you even comparing mage wraith to easy mode jesus beam.

I am also a sorc that's how.
Get your personal vendetta against RD out of here.
Templar is far harder to play effectively than a sorcerer.

That.

That's priceless

We all have the right to our own opinions. It's just not expected when people actually say that OP Meta class specs take skill to play.

The reason Magicka Templars are so prevalent in PvP atm is because they are not hard to play effectively. At all. They are easy to play.

And the reason Magicka Sorcs are rare in Cyrodiil now and suck 95% of the time is because they are terrible and extremely difficult to play effectively. In fact, only really good players can continue to play truly strong Magicka Sorcs anymore thanks to nerfs. It's sad

Tell you what I will trade streak for RD any day of the week with streaks mobility which the Templar lacks along with the stun streak has I will even throw in broken toppling charge for free.

I will also trade you reflective light for crystal frags.

Yes there are a lot more Templars now in PvP but only a few really stand out as good.

And the reason Magica sorcs are scarce is the rise of the FOTM stamina sorc builds in PvP which there are some good ones but also a lot of bad ones.

The shield nerf really only weeded out the bad sorcs as the good ones are still there kicking behind.

As to skill I don't relate to that as much as knowledge of how a class/build works in this game because it all comes down to spamming a few buttons anyway.