PvP Cyrodill weapons

Czirne

Hello everyone.

I have a suggestion here. You already noticed that VMA or VDSA weapons are pretty much needed to complete efective build - at least with 2 hander equiped(5 piece body set, 2x moster, 3x agility/willpower, one slot for weapon left- maelstrom or masters). Problem with this weapons is they drop only in hardest endgame dungeons and lots of dedicated pvpers can not get them.

With Masters weapons not comming back to top 2% leaderboards reward, i suggest to create some PvP weapons for PvPers - either top 2% reward, or lootboxes by weapon type with different trait at price 2-5 millions AP.(Or maybe some reward from battlegrouds and arenas when it comes). And please no charged, infused, powered and training stuff!

Weapons style should be Dominion/Pact/Covenant based on in whitch Aliance player is. And some nice pvp enchantment is needed, something like "enemy gets reduced healing taken by 30%", "You get 5% less damage from players" or "reduces snare effectivnes on you by 50%" - you get the idea what i mean. I believe ZOS could think up somethink nice.

What do you think? Is this good idea? Do you agree with me, or do you think that special weapons should be obtainable in PVE content only?

Stovahkiin

I can agree with this, the only real problem I see is people would say "I shoudn't have to PvP to get good gear" (even though they actually wouldn't HAVE to, but you know they would complain anyway lol)

Czirne

Stovahkiin wrote: »

I can agree with this, the only real problem I see is people would say "I shoudn't have to PvP to get good gear" (even though they actually wouldn't HAVE to, but you know they would complain anyway lol)

I see your point, thats why those enchatmens has to be usefull only in pvp. Look at my examples, noone would use it in pve. and other think is, pvpers have to do pve to get some stuff and undauted to 9, anyone who complains about doing pvp to get good gear or vigor is just whining(Everyone can get vigor in 2-3 hours in cyrodiil, but noone can do undaunted 9 in2-3 hours in dungeons xD)

Stovahkiin

Sounds good to me then, but don't hold your breath waiting for it to get implemented, cuz you'll die <(^_^)>

ScooberSteve

How about you do vma like the rest of us. Ive given a good portion of my sanity to get my vma weapons.

Czirne

ScooberSteve wrote: »

How about you do vma like the rest of us. Ive given a good portion of my sanity to get my vma weapons.

I did. Several times. Did not get what i needed. I dont enjoy it. It does not feel like game, but like work to do, something that has to be done nevertheless you want ot not. I play for fun, so i dont do it anymore.

Edit:
To be honnest, it was fun for the 1st time, but now its boring, everything is same, when you know mechanics its not hard at all and its just wasted time.

Skinzz

Ummm most dedicated pvpers have the maelstrom weapons so i dont know where you got your info.

olsborg

Agree hard.

Im quite bummed out that strong undaunted passive and undaunted gear and other dungeon dropped gear is out of reach for me just because I dont like to do pve in eso at all, I only like(love) the pvp.

Cously

Czirne wrote: »

Hello everyone.

I have a suggestion here. You already noticed that VMA or VDSA weapons are pretty much needed to complete efective build - at least with 2 hander equiped(5 piece body set, 2x moster, 3x agility/willpower, one slot for weapon left- maelstrom or masters). Problem with this weapons is they drop only in hardest endgame dungeons and lots of dedicated pvpers can not get them.

With Masters weapons not comming back to top 2% leaderboards reward, i suggest to create some PvP weapons for PvPers - either top 2% reward, or lootboxes by weapon type with different trait at price 2-5 millions AP.(Or maybe some reward from battlegrouds and arenas when it comes). And please no charged, infused, powered and training stuff!

Weapons style should be Dominion/Pact/Covenant based on in whitch Aliance player is. And some nice pvp enchantment is needed, something like "enemy gets reduced healing taken by 30%", "You get 5% less damage from players" or "reduces snare effectivnes on you by 50%" - you get the idea what i mean. I believe ZOS could think up somethink nice.

What do you think? Is this good idea? Do you agree with me, or do you think that special weapons should be obtainable in PVE content only?

It is a very good idea to create Master PVP weapons. So people who does VDSA and VMA won't feel "robbed" of their exclusive weapons by pvpers and pvpers will be able to acquire powerful gear doing what they love. Everyone in their square.

Czirne

xskinzcity wrote: »

Ummm most dedicated pvpers have the maelstrom weapons so i dont know where you got your info.

Lot of pvpers dont have VMA weapon

Tyvarra

Master weapons were once an exclusive PvP reward for the best 2% on the leaderbord. I didnt understand why they changed that and I dont understand why they cant do both: drops in vDSA AND PvP? Is it really that bad to give each player base a chance to get them?

I still play with my 140CP Master Healing Staff. Would love to upgrade soon

Bashev

I like the idea.

Skinzz

Czirne wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Ummm most dedicated pvpers have the maelstrom weapons so i dont know where you got your info.

Lot of pvpers dont have VMA weapon

I consider a true pvper as someone with a decent/high rank in the alliance war. Not a first sergeant or captain lol. 95% of my pvp guild mates have maelstrom weapons. Basically everyone i know thats over the cp cap has the weapons.

Danksta

Maelstrom/Master weapons are not needed to be effective in PvP. With that being said I'm not against having weapons with special enchants dropping in PvP, provided they're implemented properly.

Czirne

xskinzcity wrote: »

Czirne wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Ummm most dedicated pvpers have the maelstrom weapons so i dont know where you got your info.

Lot of pvpers dont have VMA weapon

I consider a true pvper as someone with a decent/high rank in the alliance war. Not a first sergeant or captain lol. 95% of my pvp guild mates have maelstrom weapons. Basically everyone i know thats over the cp cap has the weapons.

i see your point. But you have to understand there is lot of newer players that play only pvp, lots of players that dont care about pve, and lots of players that did not get lucky drop in vma. Basicly there are lots of people that are not above cap and that you dont know

Volrion

I don't mind either way, and I think it makes sense to have the option. So I'm all for it.

But VMA is behind a DLC paywall, so that's probably a big reason why it still provides BIS weapons, and probably won't change unless threads like this gain a lot of momentum.

Czirne

SourishWhale wrote: »

I don't mind either way, and I think it makes sense to have the option. So I'm all for it.

But VMA is behind a DLC paywall, so that's probably a big reason why it still provides BIS weapons, and probably won't change unless threads like this gain a lot of momentum.

Yes, VMA is behind DLC paywall, but what about Dragonstar arena? I think its available for all, isn't it?

Marktoneth3

bow vDSA is really good

Ghost-Shot

There really should be a PVP version of vma/vdsa weapons. Make the the same effect even so pve'rs don't feel forced into pvp and pvp'rs don't feel forced into pve more than they already are.

QuebraRegra

Tyvarra wrote: »

Master weapons were once an exclusive PvP reward for the best 2% on the leaderbord. I didnt understand why they changed that and I dont understand why they cant do both: drops in vDSA AND PvP? Is it really that bad to give each player base a chance to get them?

I still play with my 140CP Master Healing Staff. Would love to upgrade soon

Agreed.

That's how I got my master staff. The real crime here is that all loot is disposable in this game. I cannot believe there's no mechanism to "level" loot. Even if you get max end-game gear now, what happens when the cap raises?

I'm not saying leveling loot should be cheap or easy, but there should be a mechanism by which you can level any gear to the current MAX.

Luigi_Vampa

I agree. PvP in general needs more rewards. The PvP rewards currently are a joke. I'd be happy to never set foot in PvE land again.

Czirne

Marktoneth3 wrote: »

bow vDSA is really good

It is, right? I dont enjoy pve very much, but im tempted to farm it!

phaseadept

5 piece set

Healing set:

Max magika, magika regen, increase healing, increase physical resistance, increase ultimate gain based on healing performed

Sorcerer set:

Max magika, magika regen, increase duration of damage shields, increased movement speed, becomes immune to stun and knock back effects while casting crystal frags. . .

Oh the possibilities. . .

Lord_Eomer

Master weapon or something similar to PVP reward is appreciated..

Vaoh

We have The Master's Weapons
We have The Maelstrom's Weapons

It'd be cool to release the weapon for our Tier 3 skills.

Call them The Hero's Weapons
• The Hero's Dagger, Axe: Buffs Whirlwind

• The Hero's Sword: Buffs Defensive Posture

• The Hero's Greatsword, Batteaxe, Maul: Buffs Uppercut

• The Hero's Bow: Buffs Scattershot

• The Hero's Destruction Staff: Buffs Force Shock

• The Hero's Restoration Staff: Buffs Blessing of Protection

They will release eventually but with a different name. I think Cyrodiil would be a cool place to do it (especially Battlegrounds)!

Vaoh

I named them after both the titles and alliance war trailers:
• Covenant Hero
• Pact Hero
• Dominion Hero

Czirne

Vaoh wrote: »

We have The Master's Weapons
We have The Maelstrom's Weapons

It'd be cool to release the weapon for our Tier 3 skills.

Call them The Hero's Weapons
• The Hero's Dagger, Axe: Buffs Whirlwind

• The Hero's Sword: Buffs Defensive Posture

• The Hero's Greatsword, Batteaxe, Maul: Buffs Uppercut

• The Hero's Bow: Buffs Scattershot

• The Hero's Destruction Staff: Buffs Force Shock

• The Hero's Restoration Staff: Buffs Blessing of Protection

They will release eventually but with a different name. I think Cyrodiil would be a cool place to do it (especially Battlegrounds)!

I dont think some pvp weapons should enchace skills, pvers will be mad. I would love to see some pvp related enchatmens(and of course 189 weapon damage bonus).

zerosingularity

For the record, Powered is not so bad as a back bar trait. But as we all know, Training and Charged are the most OP traits in the game for weapons.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Czirne wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Ummm most dedicated pvpers have the maelstrom weapons so i dont know where you got your info.

Lot of pvpers dont have VMA weapon

I'm in a dominant PVP guild and there might not be a single person with a VMA weapon.

Could just be a console thing though.

Czirne

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Czirne wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Ummm most dedicated pvpers have the maelstrom weapons so i dont know where you got your info.

Lot of pvpers dont have VMA weapon

I'm in a dominant PVP guild and there might not be a single person with a VMA weapon.

Could just be a console thing though.

because of some reactions here i decided to run vma few times... 4 runs, nirnohed bow, powered greatsword, sharpened resto staff and decisive mace. Thad GS/resto traits are killing me inside