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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

What class do you have the hardest time playing against?

  • psychotic13
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    I depends on what you're playing I think, on my MagSorc I find mDKs the toughest, but if I was on my Nightblade I can deal with them fine.
  • Reinhard72
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    Bakven wrote: »
    This isn't a nerf anything thread, this is just a post about with your playstyle or build, what class do you have difficulty fighting against and why?


    Difficult Class.....let me think...

    Stam DK with 60k HP & Blocking.....
    Mag Temp.....Purge , Purge , Purge , Heal , Heal , Heal

    In both cases u have not enough Burst / Damage

  • Lieblingsjunge
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    I'm a Templar myself, so I usually find it hard to kill mSorcs. Templars lack the burst-damage needed to properly kill sorcs, as they can shield faster than our Sweeps/Solar Flare does damage. But Stamina DKs are also a pain to kill, as they got super-strong self-heals.
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  • ManDraKE
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    I'm a Templar myself, so I usually find it hard to kill mSorcs. Templars lack the burst-damage needed to properly kill sorcs, as they can shield faster than our Sweeps/Solar Flare does damage. But Stamina DKs are also a pain to kill, as they got super-strong self-heals.

    templars have more than enought burst, problem is that most of templars are healing bots with heavy armor. Use light armor and you won't lack burst.
    Edited by ManDraKE on 18 August 2016 19:24
  • Baconlad
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    MDKs for me too ! I'm a magplar. I normally get bored with the fight and leave. Only thing I will cry for fix is the whole root mechanic in general. It wouldn't be a problem if I could turn while rooted. As it stands getting permarooted is not fun...so I just walk away. MDKs damage really could use a buff though. The fact that walking away is an option is kinda crap. MDKs can't do anything to me 1v1.
  • Qbiken
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    Sorcs, all the time. Running magplar as my main :P. THose non-crit shields are a lifesaver for them (#noneadformorenerftho)
  • SleepyTroll
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    MDKs for me too ! I'm a magplar. I normally get bored with the fight and leave. Only thing I will cry for fix is the whole root mechanic in general. It wouldn't be a problem if I could turn while rooted. As it stands getting permarooted is not fun...so I just walk away. MDKs damage really could use a buff though. The fact that walking away is an option is kinda crap. MDKs can't do anything to me 1v1.

    @Baconlad If you get rooted and you don't want to waste a Dodge roll or a cleanse, you can can turn by letting go of the movement keys. Then aim your mouse at the person and press an atack, your character will turn and hit them.
  • fluffycannibalb16_ESO
    Stamblade here. Sorcs are the worst for me, without a doubt. Between shield stacking and Bolt Escape there's just no killing them. That's most of the reason why I stick to Azura's; they can't pull that **** as effectively in there.

    Inside Azura's, I'd probably say DKs are my biggest problem. If I don't kill them very quickly then I know I'm probably gonna lose the fight.
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  • Izaki
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    As a magicka sorc I find most trouble to be stamina templars. Against pretty much everything, I usually like to get all up close and personal, its harder to dodge the frags/overloads t close range and you don't have to deal with gap closers that snare. Using Streak offensively to place the combos and just move around constantly while staying really close works great. But damn those stamplars... Biting Jabs hit really hard, they snare, the curse can be purged, the heals are insane (and I got 0 heal debuffs). Its hard, usually i'd keep using my usual Streak+Fury+Frag+Overload combo and they would die if I time it right. But against a skilled player, I'm a dead sorc unless I get lucky.


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  • Izaki
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    Currently, they are up there with stamina sorcs as the two strongest classes IMHO.

    I play on every class. In my opinion, templars and stamsorcs are definitely easier to play, survive and get kills with.

    Stam sorcs strongest class?! With 1 stamina ability?! You're joking right? In PvE yeah sure, stam sorcs are the second best damage dealers after stamina DKs. In PvP, they are usually dead before they gap close my good old magicka sorc.
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  • danno8
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    MDKs for me too ! I'm a magplar. I normally get bored with the fight and leave. Only thing I will cry for fix is the whole root mechanic in general. It wouldn't be a problem if I could turn while rooted. As it stands getting permarooted is not fun...so I just walk away. MDKs damage really could use a buff though. The fact that walking away is an option is kinda crap. MDKs can't do anything to me 1v1.

    @Baconlad If you get rooted and you don't want to waste a Dodge roll or a cleanse, you can can turn by letting go of the movement keys. Then aim your mouse at the person and press an atack, your character will turn and hit them.

    On the rare occasion I am 1v1 against a mDK on my Magplar, I switch to first person. For some reason first person lets you turn while channeling you Sweeps whereas third person does not.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Crafters . Their very crafty .


    Ok I'm leaving now ...
  • Solariken
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    Does 2hShuffleDBoSBowtard qualify as a separate class now?

    Because the good ones are absolutely deadly and have insane sustain, self-healing, and damage avoidance. The only counter is to run the same setup and it's basically a quick-draw for who can get off the Crit Rush combo first. It's a sad state of affairs.
  • Edziu
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    hmm, as I stam nb...not very much experienced :p I have problem with all tankly build, doesnt matter what class...oh wait no, I just have problem with templars and dk on tankly builds, rest problems with defeat just depends from skill of my opponent
  • Omgwtfbbq321
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    As a Magcika sorc its the whole stamina meta. Im firing out C-Shards/ForcePulse/Heavy-LightAttacks and they be like:
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    My ping is higher than your resource recovery...
  • Cronopoly
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    I find it funny that most Stamina PVP players are bypassing this thread and staying quiet :D Freaking near god mode against most magicka classes (except Templar)

    Where they see competition is against other Stamina classes.

    On My Magicka Sorc: I can compete against other Magicka classes decently ok and am happy with my performnace therein. Problem is that in PVP you don't run into many of them percentage wise due to several performance reasons so you face mostly Stamina using classes.

    Against any Stamina Sorc, DK, Templat, or DK i'm screwed as they take advantage of their better tools for Tactical PVP pressure forcing me defensive by CC and basically abusing my lack of Stamina. Free AP against anyone competant on a decent stam build....
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    Edited by Cronopoly on 22 August 2016 03:35
  • Bakven
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    Cronopoly wrote: »

    Against any Stamina Sorc, DK, Templat, or DK i'm screwed as they take advantage of their better tools for Tactical PVP pressure forcing me defensive by CC and basically abusing my lack of Stamina. Free AP against anyone competant on a decent stam build....
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    Honestly I don't have too many issues fighting stamina users because they're so predictable right now. If I come across a unique stam build or just someone who's a good player then it's up in the air. But the dizzyswing spammers are easy enough to counter unless I'm fighting more than one at a time, then it's a bit more difficult.
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  • leepalmer95
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    Stam nb, i can build as tanky as i want and it works via other classes/builds i notice the reduction, but a stam nb just seems to ignore my armour and still hits me for likr 5-6k SA with incaps upwards of 10k. It's stupid.

    I have around 28k physical resist buffed a stam nb with a mace will:

    Ignore 20% , which is 5.6k penetration
    Sharpened is 5.2k
    Surprise attack debuff is 5.2k

    That's 16k penetration already without cp, cp is usually like 1-2k,

    A stam nb without even building for it will ignore 18k of my armour... My heavy is reduced to light armour levels vs a stam nb.

    This is all with like 2.5k regen and 10k SA tooltip.
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  • Beardimus
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    Nightblades with the Fear ability that you can't CC break.
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  • LegendaryChef
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    As a Stamblade I personally have the most trouble against well played stam and magicka dks, mana Templars can't kill me but if they don't try and go offensive too I can't kill them.
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  • Edziu
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    Stam nb, i can build as tanky as i want and it works via other classes/builds i notice the reduction, but a stam nb just seems to ignore my armour and still hits me for likr 5-6k SA with incaps upwards of 10k. It's stupid.

    I have around 28k physical resist buffed a stam nb with a mace will:

    Ignore 20% , which is 5.6k penetration
    Sharpened is 5.2k
    Surprise attack debuff is 5.2k

    That's 16k penetration already without cp, cp is usually like 1-2k,

    A stam nb without even building for it will ignore 18k of my armour... My heavy is reduced to light armour levels vs a stam nb.

    This is all with like 2.5k regen and 10k SA tooltip.

    NB are to penetration and fast killing....but..but now its joke because of to good sustain with this....nb with build like this for penetration and very high burst should be like glass cannon, only sustain from experience, no items, etc to this sustain whith high penetration.
    but now its to all classes, all can got this high penetration + very good sustain thanks sets, skills what is joke....or good penetration, burst, or good sustain, take only 1 but now you can take 2 together
  • Methariorn
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    Since magicka sorc is still my favourite toon I say stam dk in heavy armor 2h/sword shield is my worst possible scenario: he can heal too fast (tnx Zenimax for the major vitality + major mending + heavy armor passive...). High defence...still able to do decent damage.
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    I can add lag during prime time to my worst enemy: blink not working when I need it=death.
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