OP Stamblade, (Eternal Viper)

Wrecking_Blow_Spam

Hey nice vid, you should check out skirmisher set. I bought it to go with eternal hunt but not had time to try it out. It looks really good, more so than viper IMO.

Also regarding the music I actually kinda like that first song, who was it?

Brrrofski

frownsyndromes wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Weapon crit is useless in pvp if youre fightint an actualy pvper and not a 7pc light armor templar

idk why people say that still its stamina meta bro i crit all day lol also id say 80% of players i hit its almost double what my sheet says so i doubt many people are running impen man (dont give the majority too much credit on console) i see most randoms ruunnnign divines and *** lol

You still crit, but impen reduces that damage. So yeh, you might crit, but could be doing 200 damage more than without that skill critting.

Every serious PvPer runs at least 4 impen.

You would have killed all those people quicker with different set ups. Eternal hunt, kena, bloodspawn, agility, random mace/bow and food would get the job done quicker and still be a pain due to the rune.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO

leepalmer95 wrote: »

My SA tooltip is over 10k, can't remember the exact amount though. Maybe 10.5k~

Is that buffed or unbuffed? And what sort of Stamina regen are you able to maintain with damage like that?

Thanks in advance!

bowmanz607

susmitds wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Weapon crit is useless in pvp if youre fightint an actualy pvper and not a 7pc light armor templar

Weapon Crit is not the best but still pretty good. For a base 50% crit dmg, as along as the enemy is wearing 5 impen with 30 points in Resistant, 8% crit chance gives the same result as 10% max stamina. But stamina NBs easily get much higher than 50% crit damage, often as high as 90% crit damage. In such cases, 8% crit actually outplays 10% max stamina even for 7 impen, 57 resistant enemies.

Perhaps I am wrong but I was under the impression that the hard cap on crit damage is 50% damage. So crit damage is half the damage of you normal attack plus your normal attack power. That crit damage added to your normal attack can be increased up to 50% more and then anything beyond that is a waste.

Is that not the case?

leepalmer95

bowmanz607 wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Weapon crit is useless in pvp if youre fightint an actualy pvper and not a 7pc light armor templar

Weapon Crit is not the best but still pretty good. For a base 50% crit dmg, as along as the enemy is wearing 5 impen with 30 points in Resistant, 8% crit chance gives the same result as 10% max stamina. But stamina NBs easily get much higher than 50% crit damage, often as high as 90% crit damage. In such cases, 8% crit actually outplays 10% max stamina even for 7 impen, 57 resistant enemies.

Perhaps I am wrong but I was under the impression that the hard cap on crit damage is 50% damage. So crit damage is half the damage of you normal attack plus your normal attack power. That crit damage added to your normal attack can be increased up to 50% more and then anything beyond that is a waste.

Is that not the case?

Your base crit dmg modifer for every class is 50%, templar/nb's have 10% more. Then you've got cp, skills, shadow etc...

Impen and resistant reduces this dmg, roughly every 250 impen is 3.7%

bowmanz607

leepalmer95 wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Weapon crit is useless in pvp if youre fightint an actualy pvper and not a 7pc light armor templar

Weapon Crit is not the best but still pretty good. For a base 50% crit dmg, as along as the enemy is wearing 5 impen with 30 points in Resistant, 8% crit chance gives the same result as 10% max stamina. But stamina NBs easily get much higher than 50% crit damage, often as high as 90% crit damage. In such cases, 8% crit actually outplays 10% max stamina even for 7 impen, 57 resistant enemies.

Perhaps I am wrong but I was under the impression that the hard cap on crit damage is 50% damage. So crit damage is half the damage of you normal attack plus your normal attack power. That crit damage added to your normal attack can be increased up to 50% more and then anything beyond that is a waste.

Is that not the case?

Your base crit dmg modifer for every class is 50%, templar/nb's have 10% more. Then you've got cp, skills, shadow etc...

Impen and resistant reduces this dmg, roughly every 250 impen is 3.7%

So is there a hard cap to crit damage? Like armor mitigation capping at 32k or 50%.

MaximillianDiE

leepalmer95 wrote: »

frownsyndromes wrote: »

how the hell do i edit posts it would make things so much easier

Click on the little cog wheel in the top right of your post.

Again your dmg seems a bit too low, viper is nice but people tend to have more dmg.

My nb has 37k stamina and 3.7k wpn dmg with 22k hp and 2200 regen.

Out of interest - what are you running to get those stats?

Lexxypwns

You have too much regen, this negatively effects your damage output. Have you tried 5 skirmisher 5 alchemist(5th piece on back bar), 3 agility?

MaxwellC

Honestly all I saw was incap and a bit of viper carrying your build... sorry to sound like a hater but yeah mate.

frownsyndromes

hhahah yeah man im really not that great of a stam player yet but i do like the build alot

frownsyndromes

yeah man your right i think maybe less regen and more dammage owuld be nice i just love the way these sets work thogether thats all

Lexxypwns wrote: »

You have too much regen, this negatively effects your damage output. Have you tried 5 skirmisher 5 alchemist(5th piece on back bar), 3 agility?

Avenias

OP u have to understand that devs play nightblades mostly. So they wont nerf nightblades.

susmitds

bowmanz607 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

Weapon crit is useless in pvp if youre fightint an actualy pvper and not a 7pc light armor templar

Weapon Crit is not the best but still pretty good. For a base 50% crit dmg, as along as the enemy is wearing 5 impen with 30 points in Resistant, 8% crit chance gives the same result as 10% max stamina. But stamina NBs easily get much higher than 50% crit damage, often as high as 90% crit damage. In such cases, 8% crit actually outplays 10% max stamina even for 7 impen, 57 resistant enemies.

Perhaps I am wrong but I was under the impression that the hard cap on crit damage is 50% damage. So crit damage is half the damage of you normal attack plus your normal attack power. That crit damage added to your normal attack can be increased up to 50% more and then anything beyond that is a waste.

Is that not the case?

Your base crit dmg modifer for every class is 50%, templar/nb's have 10% more. Then you've got cp, skills, shadow etc...

Impen and resistant reduces this dmg, roughly every 250 impen is 3.7%

So is there a hard cap to crit damage? Like armor mitigation capping at 32k or 50%.

Nope, crit damage is uncapped. Most PvE players, especially stamina, rocks 100% extra crit damage.

ButtersEP

Lol haven't heard Necro in years, good stuff what's the first song?

IcyDeadPeople

acw37162 wrote: »

I paired EH with Skirmisher and I love it works great on a werewolf mainly because people are not expecting it and you get the extra weapon damage in werewolf when you dodge which is nice.

I don't quite follow - how do you roll dodge in ww form?

Voxicity

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

acw37162 wrote: »

I paired EH with Skirmisher and I love it works great on a werewolf mainly because people are not expecting it and you get the extra weapon damage in werewolf when you dodge which is nice.

I don't quite follow - how do you roll dodge in ww form?

Double tap movement keys.

SJD_Phoenix

You NA or EU server?

frownsyndromes

SJD_Phoenix wrote: »

You NA or EU server?

NA brother

frownsyndromes

ButtersEP wrote: »

Lol haven't heard Necro in years, good stuff what's the first song?

necro is the mayyynneee hahah i cant remember the name of the first song brother

Buffler

I run skirmisher and EH. Love the style, all well fitted with 100 in tumbling. Have 30k max stam, 3.2k regen with 4k weapon damage (buffed) the most fun build in the game imo

Destyran

Rolly poly rolly poly!!!