Stam NB best race?

mmcgibbo · August 2016

What's your opinion? I'm going for best race for pvp. I'm currently khajiit but am considering changing to redguard or bosmer.

starkerealm · August 2016

Imperial for a non-stealth build. Kitty for stealth.

mmcgibbo · August 2016

what about for vampire?

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

Wood elf, always wood elf.

Volrion · August 2016

BOZ!

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

Redguard. Don't bother with vamp. The passives aren't worth it for stam.

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

You know nothing DRXHarbinger, wood elf is the master race.

Vildebill · August 2016

Khajiit, crit is the ***!

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

You know nothing DRXHarbinger, wood elf is the master race.

Don't think one of those weird eyed midgets has killed me in a long time. Come at me bruh.

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

Vildebill wrote: »

Khajiit, crit is the ***!

He's talking about pvp, not pve. Just go wood elf, it's an OP race for nightblades. Also vampirism works great with wood elf.

attackjet · August 2016

I like dark elf.

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

attackjet wrote: »

I like dark elf.

Stop brainwashing him, leave him alone.

Aliyavana · August 2016

female bosmers are the best

CherryCake · August 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

You know nothing DRXHarbinger, wood elf is the master race.

IMPERIAL MASTER RACE

But also bosmer, I love them

Asmael · August 2016

Khajiit #1 for PvE DD, Redguards #2, Bosmers #3
Bosmer #1 For PvP ganking, Khajiits #2, Redguards #3
Redguards #1 for 1vX / open field, Bosmers #2, Khajiits #3

Imperials are pretty average if you ask me. Same goes for orcs.
Argonians, altmers, dunmers, bretons and Nords don't fit.

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

Asmael wrote: »

Bosmer #1 for PvE DD, Bosmer #2, Bosmer #3
Bosmer #1 For PvP ganking, Bosmer #2, Bosmer #3
Bosmer #1 for 1vX / open field, Bosmer #2, Bosmer #3

Imperials are pretty average if you ask me. Same goes for orcs.
Argonians, altmers, dunmers, bretons and Nords are weak races.

Fixed it for ya.

starkerealm · August 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Redguard. Don't bother with vamp. The passives aren't worth it for stam.

Honestly, Vamp is really only worthwhile if you want to be a vampire. It's got some build applications, but nothing that screams, "hey, you absolutely need this to make your build work."

Though, Nightstalker's Footsteps + Concealed Weapon + Cloak = pure hilarity, once you have some practice in.

Shogunami · August 2016

I'd say Imperial or Khajiit.

My cat is doing quite well with 5x Hunding's Rage and 3x-4x Nightmother and no maelstrom weapons. 1x Kena, 3x agility.

Image here

It performs well in both PvE and PvP with only having to swap a few skills

IcyDeadPeople · August 2016

mmcgibbo wrote: »

What's your opinion? I'm going for best race for pvp. I'm currently khajiit but am considering changing to redguard or bosmer.

I'd suggest to wait about 6 months or so to see if they reach a level of balance among the the racial passives. If they are still about the same at that point, then bosmer is slightly better for ganking, and redguard is a lot better for other kinds of stam NB builds.

Shardaxx · August 2016

I'm interested to know why people are choosing Bosmer over Khajiit, when Khajiit has increased critical. Bosmer gets more stamina recovery but Khajiit gets more max stamina, it seems like a no-brainer to choose Khajiit. Both get stealthy and acrobat vs cutpurse is hardly a clincher. All you get for bosmer really is better stamina recovery, how does this make them better gankers?

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

Shardaxx wrote: »

I'm interested to know why people are choosing Bosmer over Khajiit, when Khajiit has increased critical. Bosmer gets more stamina recovery but Khajiit gets more max stamina, it seems like a no-brainer to choose Khajiit. Both get stealthy and acrobat vs cutpurse is hardly a clincher. All you get for bosmer really is better stamina recovery, how does this make them better gankers?

Crit is kinda useless in pvp.

Shardaxx · August 2016

How's that? I know more people are running impen, but crit is hardly useless. Stam recovery doesn't help with ganking, looks like bosmer fan boys are ignoring the facts on this one.

starkerealm · August 2016

Shardaxx wrote: »

I'm interested to know why people are choosing Bosmer over Khajiit, when Khajiit has increased critical. Bosmer gets more stamina recovery but Khajiit gets more max stamina, it seems like a no-brainer to choose Khajiit. Both get stealthy and acrobat vs cutpurse is hardly a clincher. All you get for bosmer really is better stamina recovery, how does this make them better gankers?

It's kind of a FotM thing. I mean, on the right setup, the extra recovery can be really nice for long range stealth travel through Cyrodiil...

Until recently, recovery was way more valuable than max. Something with Shadow of the Hist changed things though, and now recovery isn't an I-win pick anymore. That said, there's still a lot of people trying to kludge the old meta into the new state of the game, and saying Bosmer are the natural choice.

BruhItsOver9000 · August 2016

Shardaxx wrote: »

How's that? I know more people are running impen, but crit is hardly useless. Stam recovery doesn't help with ganking, looks like bosmer fan boys are ignoring the facts on this one.

Stam recovery helps when you're sneaking about. Health recovery won't help you when you're ganking , like 70% of the pvp community wear impen.
I rely on weapon damage when i gank, crit won't be that useful when you're ganking. The only fan boy here is you, you furry loving freak,

no hate.

Eirella · August 2016

For PVP, Redguard or Wood Elf.

Ghettokid · August 2016

Orc

Bigevilpeter · August 2016

Bosmer is the best if you think about it carefully

NBs rely on ganking you have 2 options khajiht and bosmer, khajiht has no max stamina and much less regen but has crit chance which is useless in pvp.

Bosmer may also not have as much sustain as redguard, but 21% is pretty decent and and they are much better at ganking, so if you want redguard then better use DK much better there.

Oh did i mention the poison and desease resist which is all stam NB and DK do in pvp? thats something neither redguard or khajiht have.

Imperials are better as tanks and orcs can be a tanky dps

Bosmer hands down

IcyDeadPeople · August 2016

Shardaxx wrote: »

How's that? I know more people are running impen, but crit is hardly useless. Stam recovery doesn't help with ganking, looks like bosmer fan boys are ignoring the facts on this one.

I suppose I'm not a "fan boy" of any race. On the contrary, been hoping for some bold changes to the racial passives in order to finally see a reasonable balance. Redguard and High Elf are still a bit too strong compared to the other races for most stamina and magicka builds.

21% stamina recovery pretty helpful even for ganking as you need at least some recovery to escape, roll dodge and sprint away to reset your stealth. With this passive, you can more comfortably use green stamina food instead of drinks and get about 6k additional max stamina.

psychotic13 · August 2016

Bosmer, recovery is becoming more important with the changes in DB and now this patch also.

Tiitus · August 2016

Shardaxx wrote: »

I'm interested to know why people are choosing Bosmer over Khajiit, when Khajiit has increased critical. Bosmer gets more stamina recovery but Khajiit gets more max stamina, it seems like a no-brainer to choose Khajiit. Both get stealthy and acrobat vs cutpurse is hardly a clincher. All you get for bosmer really is better stamina recovery, how does this make them better gankers?

"Khajiit gets more max stamina" huh? Where?
khajit gets: Increases Health Recovery by 20% and Stamina Recovery by 10%. and Increases your Weapon Critical rating by 8%.

bosmer gets: 2/4/6% max stam and crazy recovery 21%

i will take a flat out damage increase and sustain over a 8% crit chance. (im aware most are refering to burst ganking but you will not be in a gank situation all the time max stam/recovery= more shuffle,vigor,rally and dodge, bosmer covers yur gank style and Survivability.. its a smart pick for those without tunnel vision and or want to switch up their playstyle.)

Shardaxx · August 2016

Tiitus wrote: »

"Khajiit gets more max stamina" huh? Where?
khajit gets: Increases Health Recovery by 20% and Stamina Recovery by 10%. and Carnage – Increases your Weapon Critical rating by 8%.

bosmer gets: 2/4/6% max stam and crazy recovery 21%

i will take a flat out damage increase and sustain over a 8% crit chance. (im aware most are refering to burst gaanking but you will not be in a gank situation all the time max stam/recovery= more shuffle,vigor,rally and dodge, bosmer covers yur gank style and Survivability.. its a smart pick for those without tunnel vision and or want to switch up their playstyle.)

Here, I think this site has been updated for the Hist changes:
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Racial+Skills

Bosmer: Increases your Max Stamina by 3% and Poison and Disease Resistance by 1485.
Khajiit: Increases your Max Stamina by 6% and Stamina Recovery by 9%.

Neither gets any health regen.

The reason I waded into this thread was because I'm planning to change race when the patch drops, I rolled a dark elf NB but being dark elf really doesn't give me much, so I was looking at Khajiit and was interested why people were saying bosmer, so thanks for the clarification on that. That extra stam regen is certainly attractive but I think crits are important so I'm still undecided.