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Cold fire ballista on vampires .
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As most of you may know,getting hit by a cold harbor ballista is much of a challenge for a normal player to actually out heal it . Being a vampire ? First tick= 12.5k, second 8.5-12-5 damage. You don't even get the chance to purge it. Now feel free to judge me, but I think it should get a 1000 damage nerf, not to make it equivalent to fire ballista ( will still be stronger) but to give players an actual chance. I may be wrong about the damage as I talk from experience and not testing , but it's around there 
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RadRzRg✭✭✭As a stamina dk,how am I supposed to cloak or purge?Not everybody runs a stamina/magicka nb:)LvL50 Stamina Templar(EP)
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✭✭Elusive Mist the DoT... case closed. Your playing vampire wrong if you dont have this slotted. Its so good against Meteors too, also its the magicka classes snare purge.
I use it on my bar back on my stam blade for Meteors. Can't cloak those things anymore.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on 23 July 2016 10:24PS4 NA DC1 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
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Igneous + vigor + rally
Or alternatively, don't get hit by it.
There is very little trade off for being vamp currently. It needs some weakness. And say that with 7 vamps...3 -
RadRzRg✭✭✭Mist
Igneous + vigor + rally
Or alternatively, don't get hit by it.
There is very little trade off for being vamp currently. It needs some weakness. And say that with 7 vamps...
I forgot to mention that my stamina dk is lvl 20,I do have vigor but ingeous rally...no. Even so, 2 ballistas can wipe zergs,doesnt even have to be 2 cold fire,1 normal and 1 cold will do the trick.LvL50 Stamina Templar(EP)
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Igneous + vigor + rally
Or alternatively, don't get hit by it.
There is very little trade off for being vamp currently. It needs some weakness. And say that with 7 vamps...
I forgot to mention that my stamina dk is lvl 20,I do have vigor but ingeous rally...no. Even so, 2 ballistas can wipe zergs,doesnt even have to be 2 cold fire,1 normal and 1 cold will do the trick.
Sounds like you play in BWB, which of course Siege Weapons will do considerable damage.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭✭✭✭Grow stronger as nerfing siege to protect lower level characters makes little sense once they become mature . These siege would be meaningless against CP501 .1 -
ButtersEP✭✭✭I think if you want the good passive for bwing a vamp, you need to take the bad. I think it's fine how it is.0 -
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✭✭As people pointed out, mist form is very good vs it. Also vs other sieges and hard hitting skills/ultimates.EU | PC0 -
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✭Most my chars are vampires and I never really found it an issue unless I was stunned or didn't pay attention, in which case I would die anyway. On an open field it is never an issue if you know how to counter it.Sometimes, I dream about...cheese...
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LinearParadox✭✭✭✭✭And here I thought you were going to say Vamps should get resistances against coldfire for lore reasons (cold resistance in Skyrim, etc) since it's not actually heat.
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Also welcome to being a vamp. You willingly incur this risk upon accepting your affliction. Dodge it or mist form it.
Most stam DKs and sorcs that I know do not like vamp because of siege.Kena
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Also welcome to being a vamp. You willingly incur this risk upon accepting your affliction. Dodge it or mist form it.
Most stam DKs and sorcs that I know do not like vamp because of siege.
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RadRzRg✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Mist
Igneous + vigor + rally
Or alternatively, don't get hit by it.
There is very little trade off for being vamp currently. It needs some weakness. And say that with 7 vamps...
I forgot to mention that my stamina dk is lvl 20,I do have vigor but ingeous rally...no. Even so, 2 ballistas can wipe zergs,doesnt even have to be 2 cold fire,1 normal and 1 cold will do the trick.
Sounds like you play in BWB, which of course Siege Weapons will do considerable damage.
I do play in BwB,it's been 7 chars from lvl 10-v160 I level there.
To everyone else,this thread was just to point out that a change needs to be made. Cold resistance does sounds accurate and a good solution,but then vampires would be too powerful,that's why I chose to suggest the nerf to the ballistas.LvL50 Stamina Templar(EP)
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RadRzRg✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »If I get hit with on on my Vamp NB I take the death lol
If you're a nightblade,you can try and cloak,it supresses the effect.That is,if you're fast enough.Don't stand in stupid.
Also welcome to being a vamp. You willingly incur this risk upon accepting your affliction. Dodge it or mist form it.
Most stam DKs and sorcs that I know do not like vamp because of siege.
Ok,I understand it's not a good idea to run vampire on my stamina dk,but what about my stamina templar(DPS)
He is v160 and his vigor ticks for 3-4.3k due to extreme damage,but it takes 2 ticks from cold fire to die and I really can't outheal it.Coming to think of it,I might as well suggest this:To give vampires a small buff (reducing fire damage from 25% to 20%). It's not only the ballistas I worry about. In multiple dungeons I get attacks that hit me for 30k fire damage(I only have 18k HP and I am an Imperial+with food.)What are your thoughts.Edited by RadRzRg on 24 July 2016 10:23LvL50 Stamina Templar(EP)
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✭✭✭✭✭JamieAubrey wrote: »If I get hit with on on my Vamp NB I take the death lol
If you're a nightblade,you can try and cloak,it supresses the effect.That is,if you're fast enough.Don't stand in stupid.
Also welcome to being a vamp. You willingly incur this risk upon accepting your affliction. Dodge it or mist form it.
Most stam DKs and sorcs that I know do not like vamp because of siege.
Ok,I understand it's not a good idea to run vampire on my stamina dk,but what about my stamina templar(DPS)
He is v160 and his vigor ticks for 3-4.3k due to extreme damage,but it takes 2 ticks from cold fire to die and I really can't outheal it.Coming to think of it,I might as well suggest this:To give vampires a small buff (reducing fire damage from 25% to 20%). It's not only the ballistas I worry about. In multiple dungeons I get attacks that hit me for 30k fire damage(I only have 18k HP and I am an Imperial+with food.)What are your thoughts.
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Sorry but as a Stam DK this is clearly a L2P issue here; all-though I'm no vampire I too have been hit with 11k cold fires and I manage to survive it using a conjunction of skills such as igneous shield, vigor, and rally. I do sometimes throw in a potion for example when I was hit by a coldfire and a regular fire ballista at the same time I had to use a potion to survive the damage.
Lastly vampires already don't get the extra damage from fighter guild weapons (all-though passives do give more damage when using it against you guys) you as a vampire have access to the all powerful mist so use it as it negates a large portion of damage.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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