No Poison server.. what are the chances?

Wycks

I'm getting sick of playing the current poison meta and getting hit my stam reduction poisons , I might as well just remove my hands from the keyboard when it happens.

Was that Mr.Pants idea of fun? To make it require about the same amount of skill as simply removing your hands from the keyboard and watching yourself die?

I honestly cannot believe this was introduced into PvP.

Sandman929

Poisons are pretty terrible. I don't know if they're working as they're supposed to, but being able to start a fight with full stamina and have it instantly drained seems a little ridiculous. I remember when it was a rare thing to see an archer in PvP...those were the days.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

People wanted it, now they have poisoning. Remember... be careful what you wish for.....
I see no chance of poisons being removed or a poison free PvP server now. At best you can hope to see some poison mitigating armour/jewery sets in the next few DLCs.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

We must be playing different games. Poison damage has barely effected me but I'm a magicka build. Very odd.

Jade1986

I was wondering why my stamina just went to nothing all of a sudden. This hurts heavy armor builds a LOT. Dont know what I expected from ZoS though. The HA, Blocking, Tank hate is just insane.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Really ? Seriously players spent 2 years craving for poison making and now that it is in you want it out. Maybe it's the players fault why the game is in bad shape and not ZoS.

DjSolJAH

ZOS just cherry picks ideas and unfortunately they are gimmicky changes that actually happen. Plenty of other things that could have required attention before developing poison into the game.

omgiztim

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

We must be playing different games. Poison damage has barely effected me but I'm a magicka build. Very odd.

I agree, I'm a stamblade and barely get affected by this. I did, however, increase my recovery and use stam potions a bit more now.

Mac10murda

Only thing that annoys me when they use them in duels along with maulBeth for the most cheese possible

Wycks

Poison making itself is a great idea for PVE.

For PvP it is not well thought out (like most PvP changes), so you have a meta right now where larger guilds who have lots of $$$ and mats can craft poisons for players and once again solo players/ new players or small groups are left in the dust.

This is becoming more popular... trust me in a few weeks it will be 100x worse because its so OP and fights will be won 100% on who is using reduction poisons.

You know they could have created something interesting like poisons effecting block or temporary snares, but making characters 100% useless is the worse idea I can think of.

Imagine an FPS game that had a bullet that removed all your ammo? Who on earth would think that would be fun or worse yet strategy (what ZOS called poisons LOL).

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

We must be playing different games. Poison damage has barely effected me but I'm a magicka build. Very odd.

not poison damage, weapon poison mechanics that replace enchantments....

Rikumaru

People complained about the stam and magicka poisons on PTS but they were buffed by 100% instead. Like a 60% increase is totally insane, compare that to seducers set 5 piece which reduces magicka costs by 8%. Unfortunately nothing was done about it

Toc de Malsvi

Wanted to see how good poisons could be so made a stack of poisons. They will not allow you to one shot people but they very quickly render them defenseless. I only ran into a couple players who were able to keep the fight going for more than 10-15s, even those I kept light attack weaving and CCing until they couldn't break free and then it was over.

silky_soft

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Really ? Seriously players spent 2 years craving for poison making and now that it is in you want it out. Maybe it's the players fault why the game is in bad shape and not ZoS.

Pve and rp craved them. No one wanted another broken mechanic to enter pvp. We just wanted lag to be minimized and a way to bridge the divide to pve locked gear.

Tbh you don't see them much with all the malubeth beams filling up your screen.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO

I mean I guess you could take a stamina potion, no? Fight alchemy with alchemy!

Forestd16b14_ESO

silky_soft wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Really ? Seriously players spent 2 years craving for poison making and now that it is in you want it out. Maybe it's the players fault why the game is in bad shape and not ZoS.

Pve and rp craved them. No one wanted another broken mechanic to enter pvp. We just wanted lag to be minimized and a way to bridge the divide to pve locked gear.

Tbh you don't see them much with all the malubeth beams filling up your screen.

It's not broken Malubeth is broken gap closers are broken RD is broken. poions are not that just give a chance to kill cheaters, perma-malubeth users, and of course max end game DPS players who always have shuffle or shields on.

SleepyTroll

Everyone bitched that fights last to long. The game was to forgiving on recourses. It was to easy to sustain. Now people bitching because they introduced poison that are a direct counter to those points. *** crazy.

KisoValley

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Everyone bitched that fights last to long. The game was to forgiving on recourses. It was to easy to sustain. Now people bitching because they introduced poison that are a direct counter to those points. *** crazy.

Except poisons make fights last 10 seconds at most because instead of infinite resources/sustain, you have 0 resources/sustain after a poison hits.

Typical broccoli.

twistedmonk

Use Heavy Attacks to restore your Stamina

PurifedBladez

bob.ellisonb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm getting sick of playing the current poison meta and getting hit my stam reduction poisons , I might as well just remove my hands from the keyboard when it happens.

Was that Mr.Pants idea of fun? To make it require about the same amount of skill as simply removing your hands from the keyboard and watching yourself die?

I honestly cannot believe this was introduced into PvP.

10 second 60% increased cost poisons are just terrible. I want to know how someone at ZoS thought that was a good idea.. I really do. Other than that I feel poisons don't have a place in pvp. I forgot the dude name who created the poison system but, I remember him talking about it during an ESO live episode. That dude is a tool. He was nonchalant about introducing something so disgusting to our game.

I don't know one pvp player before the poisons that were excited for them.

Minalan

I don't know what you all expected, The ZOS Developer who looks like Zorg from The Fifth Element put the poison system together. And it's terrible.

They didn't take any feedback seriously for Dark Brotherhood. They didn't fix any of the bugs with broken Malubeh sets or gap closers flying up buildings.

But ZOS has plenty of time to do live streams where they deride or ignore out questions and look like *** on camera. I honestly think they open up feedback PTS threads just to laugh at them, if you don't agree with them, then your opinion doesn't matter.

Minalan

KisoValley wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Everyone bitched that fights last to long. The game was to forgiving on recourses. It was to easy to sustain. Now people bitching because they introduced poison that are a direct counter to those points. *** crazy.

Except poisons make fights last 10 seconds at most because instead of infinite resources/sustain, you have 0 resources/sustain after a poison hits.

Typical broccoli.

You know there are poisons to restore stamina too. I've never tried one, does it work?

I have no idea why a deadly poison would give the poisoner more resources, but ZOS....

Sureshawt

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Everyone bitched that fights last to long. The game was to forgiving on recourses. It was to easy to sustain. Now people bitching because they introduced poison that are a direct counter to those points. *** crazy.

This ^

I kind of feel sorry for ZoS at times because no matter what they do they in terms of balance they will tick off some segment of the population. Eventually with enough changes you have angered every single player at some point during the games evolution.

ordraveeb17_ESO

i like poisons ))) it's pretty nice debaffs )))

Firerock2

They should be disabled for Azuras Star. Sustain is harder to manage on this server without CP and its good that way but the poisons are just stupid overkill.

altemriel

bob.ellisonb16_ESO wrote: »

I'm getting sick of playing the current poison meta and getting hit my stam reduction poisons , I might as well just remove my hands from the keyboard when it happens.

Was that Mr.Pants idea of fun? To make it require about the same amount of skill as simply removing your hands from the keyboard and watching yourself die?

I honestly cannot believe this was introduced into PvP.

nope