Liv3mind's Magicka Sork PVP build "The FMJ" For Small Scale

iam117

****Build in progress, feel free to ask questions, will be adding more (pics etc) over the next couple days****

So i have been playing with different armor sets, mostly heavy armor destro/resto builds, for magicka sorc for a couple months now. I finally decided to start writing it up, and finally settled on my armor sets. pictures will be coming, and i will clean up this thread, but like most things i do, this will be a fairly slow write up, il just start with a back ground and the sets i settled on.

INTRO:

first and foremost i can say a couple things, i can play this build very effectively with a small group (ie: 2-4 players including myself). I do not pvp too often anymore, and i am bored of my mageblade in pvp, so now i play my sorc, but when i do pvp i like a reliable build that i can count on for just about any situation that i come across; therefor i tend to not have a maximized build but more of a skill for most situations build, so for someone interested in 1v1/x im positive that this could be given treatment to be quite powerful in those situations, that is just not how i play anymore so i didn’t optimize for that. same with zerging, i dont do that, but im sure it would work with a couple skill changes.

STATS/RACE/MUNDUS/ETC:

Altmer is what i use for race, i use the Theif and Shadow mundus, and max health/magicka food with trash pots.

ARMOR/WEAPONS ETC:

The requirements for this build for me were simple, destro/resto (cause thats what i like for a sorc), decent spell damage, and no shield stacking, burst, debuff, and decent survivablity with a little cc.

5x Twice Born Star

5x Infallable

1x Sharpened Maelstrom Lightning/1x Precise Maelstrom Resto

5x light armor and 2xheavy armor, all magicka enchants

SKILLS:

Bar 1 (destro): Bound Aegis, Frags, Curse, Mages Wrath, Inner Light ULT- Meteor (pick your morph)

Bar 2 (resto): Bound Aegis, Mutagen, Empowered Ward, Streak, Power Surge ULT – Overload

Overload Bar: Bound Aegis, Restraining Prison, Boundless Storm, Empowered Ward, Streak, Mines

you can kill people extremely quickly by applying curse, heavy attack, frag proc, and wrath.

There is plenty of healing hidden in this build without using healing ward or combat prayer for burst healing, as well as stuns, cc, heavy attacks, and timed burst. using wrath with a timed curse is deadly when someone is at low health. heavy attacks with lightning while curse, occasional frag proc is alot of pressure, it pressures very well and usually keeps people on the defensive because we never run dry on magicka, and can cc people enough to keep our stam decent when using tri pots if you choose to. we use HOTS for healing (counting surge as a hot because of all our dots). you have consistent healing coming in from multiple sources, and lots of cc available. i designed this build for running around ic/cyro with 1-3 other damage dealers, so everyone has to be self reliant and bring something to the table, this build brings cc, a group HOT and good pressure, usually you are the first target people go after, which is fine. it allows the other dmg dealers to run high dmg and focus direct targets while i keep the pressure on and play “poor sorc kill him first”. the other place this build works fantastically is playing solo while following other groups around, stay on the outskirts, hidden, and move in once zergs break up into smaller groups, or wait for gankers to try to pick people off and lock them down.

iam117

updated a little, will post pics tonight for stats/cp etc

ToRelax

Won't say anything about the build itself, not my cup of tea. You should clear up which skill you are referring to as "Prison" though, there's Restraining Prison (morph of encase) and Rune Prison (in which case the morph would be vital information).

iam117

ToRelax wrote: »

Won't say anything about the build itself, not my cup of tea. You should clear up which skill you are referring to as "Prison" though, there's Restraining Prison (morph of encase) and Rune Prison (in which case the morph would be vital information).

fixed, ty for pointing that out

Waffennacht

How hard is elegant to get, many builds run it, many ideas could use it...

I am afraid it's gonna be like trinimac in difficulty.

Is it gonna be a pain? I would try your build or something similar if it's not too hard to acquire (prices look astronomical though)

iam117

Waffennacht wrote: »

How hard is elegant to get, many builds run it, many ideas could use it...

I am afraid it's gonna be like trinimac in difficulty.

Is it gonna be a pain? I would try your build or something similar if it's not too hard to acquire (prices look astronomical though)

i dont use elegant, not really planning to, the infall stuff was pretty easy to get, vso farming, especially now that you can trade it with group. i got all mine before the trading came about and it took me about 10 runs to get gold jewelry and 2 decent armor pieces. the elegant stuff is cool, but i find tbs better for me personally, if your like me and trying to dual purpose pve/pvp its very nice, the stat increases for pvp are awesome you get a nice sized hp pool and decently over 40k magicka. the theif/shadow surprisingly seems to work fairly well for me as well, if you get someone without impen, or debuff them, your frags/curse can hit extremely hard, meteor as well.

FriedEggSandwich

Will be interested to see your stats, especially resistances, when you post them. Also is it necessary to double-bar bound aegis when it has a 20s duration?

iam117

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Will be interested to see your stats, especially resistances, when you post them. Also is it necessary to double-bar bound aegis when it has a 20s duration?

did something with bound aegis change?

FriedEggSandwich

liv3mind wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Will be interested to see your stats, especially resistances, when you post them. Also is it necessary to double-bar bound aegis when it has a 20s duration?

did something with bound aegis change?

Sorry, facepalm. I just woke up. Confused bound aegis with boundless storm for whatever reason. Still interested to see your stats though.

iam117

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

liv3mind wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Will be interested to see your stats, especially resistances, when you post them. Also is it necessary to double-bar bound aegis when it has a 20s duration?

did something with bound aegis change?

Sorry, facepalm. I just woke up. Confused bound aegis with boundless storm for whatever reason. Still interested to see your stats though.

i was thinking lol its triple barred so the toggle dosnt fall off?? i almost asked if you meant boundless.

as for my resists, they are low for a pvp build, the shield helps with that, but i use the tbs for pve as well, and making that in impen would be a huge waste.

pics incoming tonight

Emma_Overload

Since I mostly run solo in the IC, this build wouldn't work for me for the following reasons:

1) No stamina regen for CC break

2) No Crushing Shock or Force Pulse for pressure and Frag procs

3) Empowered Ward is too small

4) No shield stack with Healing Ward or Harness Magicka

However, as the OP states, he runs with 1-3 other damage dealers, so this build works for him.

iam117

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Since I mostly run solo in the IC, this build wouldn't work for me for the following reasons:

1) No stamina regen for CC break

2) No Crushing Shock or Force Pulse for pressure and Frag procs

3) Empowered Ward is too small

4) No shield stack with Healing Ward or Harness Magicka

However, as the OP states, he runs with 1-3 other damage dealers, so this build works for him.

Hey thanks for the feedback!

il address these one by one for how i play as it might help others who dont play solo:

1) correct, no real stam regen, i tend to use trash stam pots or tri pots to help with this as magicka is rarely an issue
2) curse and wrath, and even inner light from stealth all do a good job of proccing frags, heavy lightning does a good job of pressuring people, it even pressures groups with the splash, this+curse on more that 2 enemies is bassically aoe at range.
3) i am not really into shield stacking, just my preference, and the minor intellect+VMA resto magicka return is awesome, plus your group gets minor intellect as well, for me its a decent shield at about 9k, making my hp effectively above 30k. enough for my play style.
4) answered above

if i was going to play solo i would definitely NOT play this build, hell if i was serious about pvp i might not play it, but im casual in pvp, and this works pretty well for what i do, which is either small group play, or solo play floating around the outskirts of larger battles.

Waffennacht

Oh sorry i totally meant infallible!

Im really not familiar with a lot of the vowel starting sets lol

Thanks for the heads up!

hedna123b14_ESO

Looks fun to play and definitely different from the boring meta...

iam117

updated with pics and a little more description, im going to try and get some video over the next week or so as well. maybe.

@FriedEggSandwich stats are in

Waffennacht

How the @$!# did you make your dude look so cool?!

What armor is that? Is that soul shriven that gave you eyes like that?

I know it's suppose to be about your build, but atm, I want those eyez!

iam117

Waffennacht wrote: »

How the @$!# did you make your dude look so cool?!

What armor is that? Is that soul shriven that gave you eyes like that?

I know it's suppose to be about your build, but atm, I want those eyez!

Thank you! i have gotten alot of love and alot of hate about the look of my sorc in pve and pvp.

the arms/head is specific to Infall, the Shoulders are Heavy Imperial, and the Dress you would have to ask @hedna123b14_ESO what he motif he decided to use for me when i asked for badass looking dress. the look is to me very battle mage. the skin is from vmol, and the eyes/aura is from bound aegis, the combo of the dro m'athra skin and the bound aegis armor visual effect is what creates a very distinct eye look, its much more vibrant with the skin than without.

catalyst10e

liv3mind wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

How the @$!# did you make your dude look so cool?!

What armor is that? Is that soul shriven that gave you eyes like that?

I know it's suppose to be about your build, but atm, I want those eyez!

Thank you! i have gotten alot of love and alot of hate about the look of my sorc in pve and pvp.

the arms/head is specific to Infall, the Shoulders are Heavy Imperial, and the Dress you would have to ask @hedna123b14_ESO what he motif he decided to use for me when i asked for badass looking dress. the look is to me very battle mage. the skin is from vmol, and the eyes/aura is from bound aegis, the combo of the dro m'athra skin and the bound aegis armor visual effect is what creates a very distinct eye look, its much more vibrant with the skin than without.

Those robes are Ancient elf. Just to help out a bit here. as mentioned good build for group play and small scale.

iam117

catalyst10e wrote: »

liv3mind wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

How the @$!# did you make your dude look so cool?!

What armor is that? Is that soul shriven that gave you eyes like that?

I know it's suppose to be about your build, but atm, I want those eyez!

Thank you! i have gotten alot of love and alot of hate about the look of my sorc in pve and pvp.

the arms/head is specific to Infall, the Shoulders are Heavy Imperial, and the Dress you would have to ask @hedna123b14_ESO what he motif he decided to use for me when i asked for badass looking dress. the look is to me very battle mage. the skin is from vmol, and the eyes/aura is from bound aegis, the combo of the dro m'athra skin and the bound aegis armor visual effect is what creates a very distinct eye look, its much more vibrant with the skin than without.

Those robes are Ancient elf. Just to help out a bit here. as mentioned good build for group play and small scale.

Thanks!

FriedEggSandwich

Nice stats man, and your char does indeed look hench. I need undaunted mettle so bad, time to bite the bullet and pug it I think Do you not run out of magicka really quickly with 3 SD glyphs and 800 regen?

iam117

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Nice stats man, and your char does indeed look hench. I need undaunted mettle so bad, time to bite the bullet and pug it I think Do you not run out of magicka really quickly with 3 SD glyphs and 800 regen?

no, i heavy attack quite a bit, that plus empowered and the vma resto keep magicka pretty good. you can absolutely wreck a stacked group by tossing a curse, dropping meteor, and channeling a couple heavy attacks. and your still at max magicka to pick up stragglers with wrath,curse and frags. i do find that if im having to go on defensive for too long i strain magicka, but usually i can streak stun, drop mines channel a heavy with the resto and get a pot back up to deal with it. sometimes i get rekt doing it tho. but because i usually play with a couple other people or around a group, magicka is very very rarely a issue. too bad your not NA, i have toons that need the undaunted grind

catalyst10e

I think our builds are similar even tho we run totally different equipment. I've got 5 Kag's, 5 elegance, 1 kena. inferno destro/resto. Also dressed as a Battlemage. I try to keep pressure on with medium weaves and fully charged heavy attacks.

Minalan

First change I would make is the mundus stones. I'd take Mage for max magicka and damage, then atronach to push your anemic recovery up much higher.

You get enough crit from infallible, probably more than you need because most guys are running 2K+ Impen.

Then you just need to change your mundus stones if you want to head back to PVE content.

catalyst10e

Minalan wrote: »

First change I would make is the mundus stones. I'd take Mage for max magicka and damage, then atronach to push your anemic recovery up much higher.

You get enough crit from infallible, probably more than you need because most guys are running 2K+ Impen.

Then you just need to change your mundus stones if you want to head back to PVE content.

I'd only suggest hardened ward over empowered. I've run the 800 regen before, you can run out fast but that's easily fixed with swapping in Dark Conversion, and using your resto staff to get magicka back. OP also mentioned tho, they typically run PVP with a small group, you dont need much regen when the rest of the group is helping.

iam117

@catalyst10e cool looking sorc! how hard do your heavies hit with elegance?

@Minalan i have not tried out the mage, but i have tried the atro, i can say that i heavy attack enough that magicka is very rarely an issue without it, usually when i die its not to lack of resources, its because im out played. the theif gives more of an opportunity for the shadow to work, and while your crits will not apply to a shield, or are negated to X-extent by impen, the shadow still allows your abilities to hit harder than base skill AFAIK. i think the increase from the shadow would outweigh the raw stat increase from the mage, especially if its given the opportunity to work more via crit chance? more skills that crit=harder they hit via shadow? i have have no math to back this up, but i would assume the reason people are running the shadow in pvp is because it pushes your abilities higher than base when it does crit, even with the impen. again, im not a pvp expert and do not claim to be, but that is my take on it. what do you think?

catalyst10e

liv3mind wrote: »

@catalyst10e cool looking sorc! how hard do your heavies hit with elegance?

@Minalan i have not tried out the mage, but i have tried the atro, i can say that i heavy attack enough that magicka is very rarely an issue without it, usually when i die its not to lack of resources, its because im out played. the theif gives more of an opportunity for the shadow to work, and while your crits will not apply to a shield, or are negated to X-extent by impen, the shadow still allows your abilities to hit harder than base skill AFAIK. i think the increase from the shadow would outweigh the raw stat increase from the mage, especially if its given the opportunity to work more via crit chance? more skills that crit=harder they hit via shadow? i have have no math to back this up, but i would assume the reason people are running the shadow in pvp is because it pushes your abilities higher than base when it does crit, even with the impen. again, im not a pvp expert and do not claim to be, but that is my take on it. what do you think?

anywhere between 25-30k with fully charged heavy attacks. about as hard as my c-frags. (really helps with overload tho)

As far as the twice born set up goes, in my experience and the experience from a stam NB friend who runs hundings/TBS the impen is present in PVP, but not everyone has it, and you usually still do enough damage after mitigation even when they do have it. I'd say your build is fine for swapping between PVE and PVP the way you do. How well does Mutagen work in your build?

iam117

@catalyst10e works great for me, between surge and mutagen i always have a 4k+hot on me, and its great for others in group/around. the issue is its *** and does not target for ***. i prefer it to rapid just because it gives a little safety net along with a hot.