@ZOS | Break Free isn't working as intended.

Molag_Crow

I'm not even kidding. When you're the victim of fear/mass hysteria, there's a big delay on break free (usually 80% of the time, especially in popular compaigns and no it's not just down to lag because it's the same in PvE/Dungeons.)

I don't know if it's just a console issue but it happens. People will also confirm this if they're not scared to admit it in fear of fear getting nerfed or something. (get it? fear of fear itself being nerfed!) it's more of a problem with break free's response WHEN feared.

Literally just took me 3-4 seconds to break free from Mass Hysteria and by that point, it was too late to block and heal. GG

Please fix this. This has been happening for many many months if not years (I'm sure someone on PC will admit this too) @Wrobel @ZOS_GinaBruno

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Also here's some proof of Break Free not registering, and still costing (draining double) Stamina.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0uObJzrwBM

Armitas

Same experience with it. You can't breakfree immediately.

AJ_1988

I'm lucky if I can break free at all. Even with 40k stamina it drains it all yet I'm still not free. It's that reason I'm going back to magic so at least I can purge myself.

CokeVoAYCE

same. it makes it really hard to 1v1

qrichou

AJ_1988 wrote: »

I'm lucky if I can break free at all. Even with 40k stamina it drains it all yet I'm still not free. It's that reason I'm going back to magic so at least I can purge myself.

silly boy

Mashille

Yes.

Even worse sometimes after Break Free finally happens CC Immunity doesn't even work and you can get CC'd again straight away.

qrichou

but yes breakfree is broken.

Molag_Crow

AJ_1988 wrote: »

I'm lucky if I can break free at all. Even with 40k stamina it drains it all yet I'm still not free. It's that reason I'm going back to magic so at least I can purge myself.

Indeed. I can't believe this hasn't even been acknowledged as an issue yet, and if it has, then it would have been fixed by now (or attempted...)

Also, let's not forget that just after you dodge roll (or while you dodge roll) you can be feared INSTANTLY. So you dodge roll to avoid attacks and then your character's too busy running away with his/her hands on his/her head in fear, then comes the delay break free and then it's usually too late.

susmitds

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Also, let's not forget that just after you dodge roll (or while you dodge roll) you can be feared INSTANTLY. So you dodge roll to avoid attacks and then your character's too busy running away with his/her hands on his/her head in fear, then comes the delay break free and then it's usually too late.

This info is totally wrong.

Molag_Crow

susmitds wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Also, let's not forget that just after you dodge roll (or while you dodge roll) you can be feared INSTANTLY. So you dodge roll to avoid attacks and then your character's too busy running away with his/her hands on his/her head in fear, then comes the delay break free and then it's usually too late.

This info is totally wrong.

Prove it's wrong then?

susmitds

Molag_Crow wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Also, let's not forget that just after you dodge roll (or while you dodge roll) you can be feared INSTANTLY. So you dodge roll to avoid attacks and then your character's too busy running away with his/her hands on his/her head in fear, then comes the delay break free and then it's usually too late.

This info is totally wrong.

Prove it's wrong then?

You are making the statement. It is your responsibility to verify and provide your proof. Stop going around spewing information without proper proof.

Mac10murda

Some times when I get feared my character runs away like 50mph and can't break cc

Molag_Crow

susmitds wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Also, let's not forget that just after you dodge roll (or while you dodge roll) you can be feared INSTANTLY. So you dodge roll to avoid attacks and then your character's too busy running away with his/her hands on his/her head in fear, then comes the delay break free and then it's usually too late.

This info is totally wrong.

Prove it's wrong then?

You are making the statement. It is your responsibility to verify and provide your proof. Stop going around spewing information without proper proof.

I could record it for you but then how would you know that I'm clicking break free with my fingers (console triggers) immediately? duh

Stravokov

Yeah it is terrible. It's even worse when you have multiple characters attacking you at the same time like in PvP. A lot of times I can't even break out

magnusthorek

It's not only on PvP. Yesterday I went on Elden Hollow normal pledge and I died stupidly on the twilight fight because I couldn't break free the fear fast enough.

itscompton

I experience this from time to time. Many times I can break fear right away but sometimes break free just won't work no matter how much stamina I have. Nothing more frustrating then furiously mashing the shoulders buttons vainly trying to break free as someone is able to beat on me a full four seconds while I'm totally helpless.

thankyourat

It's all CCs not just fear something I can't get up from wrecking blow sometimes it's dawn breaker. It's not just fear. Also sometimes I don't get my cc immunity and I get CC'd back to back

AJ_1988

susmitds wrote: »

Molag_Crow wrote: »

Also, let's not forget that just after you dodge roll (or while you dodge roll) you can be feared INSTANTLY. So you dodge roll to avoid attacks and then your character's too busy running away with his/her hands on his/her head in fear, then comes the delay break free and then it's usually too late.

This info is totally wrong.

Can confirm it has happened to me. Most of time due to lag and massive animation cancelling, but been a few times where lag wasn't the issue.

GreenSoup2HoT

I don't have fear on my bar anymore because of this. On many occasions i have used fear on players and the cc was un-break-able. At that point i just stop dealing damage since its so unfair.

I don't mind a cc ability to stop perma-blockers but it is pretty broken. When lag is involved good luck. Theres a reason i use immovable potions in pvp so often.

Its not only fear that is causing issues though. Lag in general with all cc's is death. By the time you cc break, anyone can put in enough damage to kill someone. If your outnumbered its instant death. This is also another reason why ive started to use summon image on my nightblade. When your outnumbered its generally gg if lag is present.

AJ_1988

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I don't have fear on my bar anymore because of this. On many occasions i have used fear on players and the cc was un-break-able. At that point i just stop dealing damage since its so unfair.

I don't mind a cc ability to stop perma-blockers but it is pretty broken. When lag is involved good luck. Theres a reason i use immovable potions in pvp so often.

Its not only fear that is causing issues though. Lag in general with all cc's is death. By the time you cc break, anyone can put in enough damage to kill someone. If your outnumbered its instant death. This is also another reason why ive started to use summon image on my nightblade. When your outnumbered its generally gg if lag is present.

Good to see someone has morals and decency

Skinzz

Try being frozen in place and getting killed while being 100% helpless.

Didaco

In crowded places, its visual effect doesn't even show up.
Add it that to the fact that your character doesn't even do anything at all (no run, no panic animation, he just stands still) and you get the picture.

That skill needs to be fixed.
FIXED, not NERFED.

Thalmor-Nordmaster

I never live long enough in PVP to see what fear did to me.I know the streaky sorc peeps have this mojo they put on me that keeps me in the fetal position forever. Fear near the bridge had me go into the slaughter fishes. I don't have enough stamina to break free and i die . But then again I die to argonian bites. The fear is something that I don't know enough about.

Stay chipper and happy people we make our moods.

Molag_Crow

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

I don't have fear on my bar anymore because of this. On many occasions i have used fear on players and the cc was un-break-able. At that point i just stop dealing damage since its so unfair.

I don't mind a cc ability to stop perma-blockers but it is pretty broken. When lag is involved good luck. Theres a reason i use immovable potions in pvp so often.

Its not only fear that is causing issues though. Lag in general with all cc's is death. By the time you cc break, anyone can put in enough damage to kill someone. If your outnumbered its instant death. This is also another reason why ive started to use summon image on my nightblade. When your outnumbered its generally gg if lag is present.

Respect! although I don't blame you if you use it because it's there to be used, even though it's pretty broken... but then again, I don't use malubeth even though I know it's still bugged

That's usually the typical combo. I'm at 28k HP on my back bar when I'm trying to tank a NB and they're pumping out insane damage, I'm blocking and breaking their fear ever 6(?) seconds until I'm completely out of stamina... I think the stamina costs of blocking is too high, personally.

jello

qrichou wrote: »

but yes breakfree is broken.

Wtf isnt broken in this game? Crownstore?

Dakrana_Thrazvoth

I've noticed in many situations, it's not possible at all to break free, even with enough stamina for that. The character is just stuck the hands on his hands until the opponent kill you or the cc is over.

Tryxus

Only break free is broken?

Molag_Crow

Tryxus wrote: »

Only break free is broken?

I'd lose my mind if I tried to pinpoint the "others"

Bashev

Bashev wrote: »

The big issue is the dumb CC system. You can have several CC effects on you. You receive the CC immunity when you are not CCed. Sometimes if you break free immediately and the server lags, it doesnt realized that you break freed and you could be CC one more time, then the server receive your break free charge you for stamina but you are still CCed by the second CC that came.

The system should be changed to: after you are CCed you should immediately receive CC immunity even that you are still CCed. After the CC finishes or you breakfree your CC immunity should be refreshed one more time to 8 seconds.

Birdovic

keybaud wrote: »

Yes.

Even worse sometimes after Break Free finally happens CC Immunity doesn't even work and you can get CC'd again straight away.

THIS.IS.THE WORST.

Usually this happens in combination with bugs like this:

- I get CC'ed, instantly break free
- While breaking free I receive a Fear to the face and my character stands there, not responding to any Controler/Keyboard Input for like 1-3 seconds at all (im spamming break free and cursing like crazy at this point)
- Then, after that, he starts running away suddenly (because of fear) and only at that point, the Input is accepted and it works again.

So basically I get stunned, break free (losing 1/3 of stam), then just stand there for 1-3 sec and now I have to break free again (losing 2/3 stam). If im not dead at this point, im forced into shield spamming/heal spamming.


I suspect this is an issue closely related to the "Fear" Ability itself and should be looked into, its easily one of the most enraging things that can happen in PvP. Usually when someone breaks free, you have to use "Fear" and if your timing was correct, the breaking free guy/girl is cc'ed again.

magnusthorek

Didaco wrote: »

In crowded places, its visual effect doesn't even show up.
Add it that to the fact that your character doesn't even do anything at all (no run, no panic animation, he just stands still) and you get the picture

THIS

It's so bad that even with addons like FTC the stunned or off-balance messages are delayed and editar don't know wtf is going on