vMA drop rate is still terrabad [Rant]

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Fear not. BoP dungeon trading is on its way!

XaXa

To bad this is a single player dungeon.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

Exactly

XaXa

Weekly rewards incoming. 5 Gold says its useless.

tist

Just finished another run before reset. Thank you for the ring of glory.

XaXa

Got a yellow ring of the hunt and a yellow bow. neither of which I will ever use.

One last run then I'm done for the day.

Stillian

Look at my signature. Gave up after DB release, first two runs after update gave me charged staff - and even that is not inferno (ive never seen inferno in any trait). Not going to do it again ever.
If dragonstar is at least fun because you can do it with friends, thit solo not rewarding *** is incredible.

XaXa

really hope I don't get to that point.

notimetocare

XaXa wrote: »

Weekly rewards incoming. 5 Gold says its useless.

pft, I got kicked from leaderboard by 2k

XaXa

Another Permafrost ring. Thanks ZoS

sirrmattus

11 rsto staffs/5 s&b/2 ice staffs/1 lighting staff/ 3 2h's/2 dagger/

NO *** INFERNO STAFF!!!

Martol

guys be happy you can complete it... there are tons that wish they could do it (including me).

XaXa

@ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Any word on why ZoS refuses to implement a token system? This content is no longer fun, and running the arena repeatedly to get nothing but trash is extremely frustrating.

With a token system we can at least SEE our progress towards the loot that we want. instead of hoping "Maybe ill get X sometime this next year!"

Stillian

Martol wrote: »

guys be happy you can complete it... there are tons that wish they could do it (including me).

What's the point that we complete it if it is not fun and not rewarding. I'd better have my lifetime back. And crowns for orsinium DLC

drumbendrum_ESO

So I went 1/12 on weapon drops from the final chest after DB broke out.

I am finally getting weapons to appear now so it is somewhat balancing out, however still not in the 50% supposed drop rate that it is supposed to be.

I finally got a 2hander from my weekly this week though the trait is powered so doesn't look like I can use it.

I want the 2handers more than anything and that for me at them moment seems to be the hardest drop for me to get.

Hopefully this week will pay off and hopefully my sorc will get just a little bit higher on the board so I can have 2 weekly rewards.

Cheer up guys at least you are able to complete the content, there are a ton of people out there that are not even able to complete the arena so at least you got a shot!

Kalante

i got a sharpened mace on my third try and my first maelstrom weapon lelelel. On a stam nb. None of that easy mode mag characters with range.

Shader_Shibes

So glad i managed to get what i needed before DB.

ZOS are trolling you guys big time.

tist

Please look at the drop rates. Rings are dropping 75%+ of the time off the last boss.

Armitas

Martol wrote: »

guys be happy you can complete it... there are tons that wish they could do it (including me).

It's not content you do for fun. The game is not equipped to handle whats in there. Heals go off late, shields go off late, npcs animation cancel, blocks go off late, break frees are late or just will not occur. It is a gogogogogogo dps race from start to finish. The people who finish it do so procedurally, not by fun and enjoyment. And they waste tons of pots and an hour of their time with nothing to show for it. I kid you not I rage quit the game for 3-4 months after a solid day of it when it first came out and had all that I mentioned in it as well as a memory leak.

It is the most poorly designed dungeon I have ever seen in any game to date. The challenge isn't beating the scripts, its surviving ZOS's coding. That and gogogoogogogogo dps with a bomb in your chest isn't really what a lot of people would consider fun/enjoyment.

boggie

I've probably put 15-20 hours total into vet maelstrom so far. I've made it to the final boss. Haven't cleared it yet mainly because I can only take the place in small doses. I can't say I've *enjoyed* a single minute of my time spent in there. It's glitchy as hell, and a solid 3/4 of my deaths feel like they were to lag/bugs rather than errors on my part. Now, I'm sure that's not actually the case. Guy in my guild got his first deathless run today, so I know it can be done, but when most of your deaths are from 100-0% health bursts, that is the impression it leaves.

I'm sure I'll complete it eventually. I'm maining a stamina dk (not the character I run maelstrom with), and the weapons would be a huge boost to my dps. That's the problem though, and the reason that I can't bring myself to put in the effort to finish the place right now- I know that the odds of me getting one of the weapons I need off of my first run are almost infinitely small. My time spent in there thus far has been SO unenjoyable, that the thought of having to GRIND the place for a CHANCE at what I want out of it is absolutely soul crushing. When I hear people in my guilds talking about having completed the place literally HUNDREDS of times without getting the weapon they want (in any trait), it makes any motivation I might have built up to run the place disappear completely. IMO, any piece of content as challenging as vet maelstrom should not have "useless" items in the loot table for the final reward. Even if they removed all the non-weapons and truly useless traits from the table, there would still be enough options left to make the odds of getting what you want on the first several runs pretty small. I'd also be greatly in favor of a token system. At least then you would feel like you had made some kind of progress after completing a run, rather than opening the final chest only to discover that the previous hour or more of hell you've put yourself through was for literally nothing- an item you will be vendoring for less than the cost of ONE of the MANY potions you have burned through to get to that point.

Drishtan

Leave it to ZOS's twenking to *** *** up worse!!!!

XaXa

Hey guys! Just wanted to say I had great luck and got another parabellum band! toats what I needed to complete my set! Thanks ZoS

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I'm just going to keep tagging you gina. The drop rate on this is borked and it needs fixing.

tist

I will be doing a few runs today. I think I am on a ring hot streak right now.. will post results

ReaX

they should introduce token system or make 1 day per week when only sharpened weapons drop

XaXa

Literally anything is better then what we have right now.

Buddy just got his third sharpened destro in a row. meanwhile I'm over here twiddling my thumbs doing twice as many runs getting useless rings.

DRXHarbinger

XaXa wrote: »

Hey guys! Just wanted to say I had great luck and got another parabellum band! toats what I needed to complete my set! Thanks ZoS

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I'm just going to keep tagging you gina. The drop rate on this is borked and it needs fixing.

Extra healing power dagger this morning....beat that. Seriously it's proper useless...like more useless than the England football team tonight.

Jaronking

@XaXa Gina still on leave tag everyone else @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_DaryaK @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_JesusV @ZOS_JessicaFolsom CAN you guys tell us anything about why the drop rate is so bad?

XaXa

Jaronking wrote: »

@XaXa Gina still on leave tag everyone else @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_DaryaK @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_JesusV @ZOS_JessicaFolsom CAN you guys tell us anything about why the drop rate is so bad?

Was unaware thanks.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_DaryaK

Any word on the drop rate or the implementation of a token system?. Not a mathematician but there is no way it is "50%".

Ex_Draconis

boggie wrote: »

I've probably put 15-20 hours total into vet maelstrom so far. I've made it to the final boss. Haven't cleared it yet mainly because I can only take the place in small doses. I can't say I've *enjoyed* a single minute of my time spent in there. It's glitchy as hell, and a solid 3/4 of my deaths feel like they were to lag/bugs rather than errors on my part. Now, I'm sure that's not actually the case. Guy in my guild got his first deathless run today, so I know it can be done, but when most of your deaths are from 100-0% health bursts, that is the impression it leaves.

I'm sure I'll complete it eventually. I'm maining a stamina dk (not the character I run maelstrom with), and the weapons would be a huge boost to my dps. That's the problem though, and the reason that I can't bring myself to put in the effort to finish the place right now- I know that the odds of me getting one of the weapons I need off of my first run are almost infinitely small. My time spent in there thus far has been SO unenjoyable, that the thought of having to GRIND the place for a CHANCE at what I want out of it is absolutely soul crushing. When I hear people in my guilds talking about having completed the place literally HUNDREDS of times without getting the weapon they want (in any trait), it makes any motivation I might have built up to run the place disappear completely. IMO, any piece of content as challenging as vet maelstrom should not have "useless" items in the loot table for the final reward. Even if they removed all the non-weapons and truly useless traits from the table, there would still be enough options left to make the odds of getting what you want on the first several runs pretty small. I'd also be greatly in favor of a token system. At least then you would feel like you had made some kind of progress after completing a run, rather than opening the final chest only to discover that the previous hour or more of hell you've put yourself through was for literally nothing- an item you will be vendoring for less than the cost of ONE of the MANY potions you have burned through to get to that point.

Or

boggie wrote: »

I've probably put 15-20 hours total into vet maelstrom so far. I've made it to the final boss. Haven't cleared it yet mainly because I can only take the place in small doses. I can't say I've *enjoyed* a single minute of my time spent in there. It's glitchy as hell, and a solid 3/4 of my deaths feel like they were to lag/bugs rather than errors on my part. Now, I'm sure that's not actually the case. Guy in my guild got his first deathless run today, so I know it can be done, but when most of your deaths are from 100-0% health bursts, that is the impression it leaves.

I'm sure I'll complete it eventually. I'm maining a stamina dk (not the character I run maelstrom with), and the weapons would be a huge boost to my dps. That's the problem though, and the reason that I can't bring myself to put in the effort to finish the place right now- I know that the odds of me getting one of the weapons I need off of my first run are almost infinitely small. My time spent in there thus far has been SO unenjoyable, that the thought of having to GRIND the place for a CHANCE at what I want out of it is absolutely soul crushing. When I hear people in my guilds talking about having completed the place literally HUNDREDS of times without getting the weapon they want (in any trait), it makes any motivation I might have built up to run the place disappear completely. IMO, any piece of content as challenging as vet maelstrom should not have "useless" items in the loot table for the final reward. Even if they removed all the non-weapons and truly useless traits from the table, there would still be enough options left to make the odds of getting what you want on the first several runs pretty small. I'd also be greatly in favor of a token system. At least then you would feel like you had made some kind of progress after completing a run, rather than opening the final chest only to discover that the previous hour or more of hell you've put yourself through was for literally nothing- an item you will be vendoring for less than the cost of ONE of the MANY potions you have burned through to get to that point.

Token system is a good idea. That or make the weapons BoE so we can sell or trade.

XaXa

Another run, Another Permafrost ring.

Got a dagger earlier. Cant use it.

1 vMA weapon out of 5 runs = 50%