POISONS, my main concern.

olsborg

So wth every other update or so, ZOS has made it harder and harder to 1vX or 2-3vX. Theres been a bunch of things that made it harder, most prominently to the block nerf, the dodge nerf and the streak nerf and the root/snare you get when youre spammed by gapclosers.

In next patch however, it gets even harder, namely due to poisons.
Lets say youre fighting 3 ppl solo, or youre in a group of 3 ppl and fighting a group of 8. If everyone is running poison of lets say, 60% cost increase to either stamina or magicka, you, who are smalle scale and outnumbered will probably have said poison debuffing you the whole fight, but the guys who are outnumbering you will either never get it applied to them, or just have it on a small portion of the fight. Cant rly say I like this prognosis...

Lava_Croft

ZOS does not want peopl running around in small groups, because that might make the frame rates too decent, the latency too bearable and the fights too dynamic.

Lokey0024

So instead of super weapon damage stack regen, coordinate targets, and prepare to die.

mtwiggz

Lokey0024 wrote: »

So instead of super weapon damage stack regen, coordinate targets, and prepare to die.

Mostly prepare to die. In an outnumbered fight your resources mean a whole lot more. Resource management, even on CP campaigns, is the biggest difference between good players and great players. With a -60% regen debuff you may as well kiss everything goodbye.

Lokey0024

Is it regen debuff or skill cost? Basically i see it as giving a more drastic climb of the skill curve and accentuating the strengths and weaknesses in class design. Templar purge ring will be a lifesaver, NB will be more picky about targets, stack more regen and hit and move instead of facetank nuke targets, dk will have to use low cost ults for regen, and not versed in sorc so....run purge and spam moar shields?

Waffennacht

Will purge actually work? Is it regen or pool reduction?

Asmael

Wrobel said that when you have 20 guys on you, you're supposed to die anyway.

But what about...
1v2?
1v3?
1v4?
1v5?
1v6?
1v7?
1v8?
1v9?
1v10?
1v11?
1v12?
1v13?
1v14?
1v15?

All of those are pretty easy to tank on live. This is a huge middle finger to solo and small groups (2-6 usually) and will make tanking in PvP a nightmare.

olsborg

Asmael wrote: »

Wrobel said that when you have 20 guys on you, you're supposed to die anyway.

But what about...
1v2?
1v3?
1v4?
1v5?
1v6?
1v7?
1v8?
1v9?
1v10?
1v11?
1v12?
1v13?
1v14?
1v15?

All of those are pretty easy to tank on live. This is a huge middle finger to solo and small groups (2-6 usually) and will make tanking in PvP a nightmare.

Well yea, thats another concern. Also, ive kited and escaped 20 ppl tryharding me many times, after patch tho thats RIP.

Lava_Croft

Waffennacht wrote: »

Will purge actually work? Is it regen or pool reduction?

Purge will work, Templars are going to have a field day mass-purging Poisons.

Panth141

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Will purge actually work? Is it regen or pool reduction?

Purge will work, Templars are going to have a field day mass-purging Poisons.

Though purge won't be cheap if you've got a 60% increase in resource cost!

Lava_Croft

Panth141 wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Will purge actually work? Is it regen or pool reduction?

Purge will work, Templars are going to have a field day mass-purging Poisons.

Though purge won't be cheap if you've got a 60% increase in resource cost!

That Cleanse thing removes 5 negative effects though! The real Alliance War Purge will most certainly be *** to use with the 60% cost increase.

Waffennacht

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Panth141 wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Will purge actually work? Is it regen or pool reduction?

Purge will work, Templars are going to have a field day mass-purging Poisons.

Though purge won't be cheap if you've got a 60% increase in resource cost!

That Cleanse thing removes 5 negative effects though! The real Alliance War Purge will most certainly be *** to use with the 60% cost increase.

Efficient purge is still viable i suppose, if you can pay for expensive one normally, the cheap one is still viable at least. In theory I suppose.