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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Dragon fire scale

vokage89
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Buff it please. it does not need to go back to reflecting everything.. But at least double it.. being able to reflect 2 weaves in a game were you can be fighting up to 100 players is just not cutting it.
  • Killa4hire89
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    Yes I agree. Plus destro fire med weaves I believe count as 2 each and crushing shock counts as 3. So 1 shock and half a heavy/medium attack is kinda weak.

    On a side note I have noticed that wings no longer reflect nbs strife and it's morphs. Is this intended? Of so I would love to know why this change was made. Nb is already OP, no need to make it worse by making the cheapest spam able dps skill, that heals you and can hit 5-6k in PvP not be reflectable.

    Just my opinion.
  • Bosov
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    Yes! Decent players are smart enough to avoid the reflect even if reflect is buffed and there are a lot of skills which cant be reflected anyway.

    Now when i fight a destro/resto sorc (most of them) i have to spam wings and still get hit by their range attacks because wings are just 4 projectiles.

    Wings only reflecting 4 things makes it harder to fight against mutilple people. Why make it harder for the guy who is outnumberd? I can have wings up while fighting multiple people and still get killed by someone spamming snipe from a distance because wings did just reflect a light or medium weaves and one crushing shock.

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  • outsideworld76
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    Right now the skill is rubbish. Add the lag and get hit by anything, it useless. Ooh and it takes ages to activate the skill... if it activates at all.
  • SpazzmanNDQ
    I don't use wings as I find it a waste of resources having to recast it after 4 reflects. It should have a duration timer and it should reflect the whole time. Maybe 5 seconds or so.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Know what makes it worse?

    If you get hit with Poison Injection, you still take the poison DOT even if you reflect it.

    If you reflect Dark Flare you still get the Dark Flare Trauma Healing Debuff

    Reflect Lethal Arrow you still get poisoned

    considering Wings don't work half the time, your still stuck with this too. :(
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  • ManDraKE
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    Bosov wrote: »
    Now when i fight a destro/resto sorc (most of them) i have to spam wings and still get hit by their range attacks because wings are just 4 projectiles.

    so you suggest that the ability needs to be tuned in order to being able of counter and entire class just with 1 spammeable button?

    #EsoForumsLogic
  • Bosov
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    Bosov wrote: »
    Now when i fight a destro/resto sorc (most of them) i have to spam wings and still get hit by their range attacks because wings are just 4 projectiles.

    so you suggest that the ability needs to be tuned in order to being able of counter and entire class just with 1 spammeable button?

    #EsoForumsLogic

    Only if you are really bad sorc... you have curse, detonation, meteor, drop a storm atro, lightning staff and other stuff... if i want to whip you i need to get close which means i have to walk in mines... so many counters but yeah if all you do is shoot weave, force shock, frags than it will counter you. Just like harness magicka basically counters all my whips...
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  • ManDraKE
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    Bosov wrote: »
    ManDraKE wrote: »
    Bosov wrote: »
    Now when i fight a destro/resto sorc (most of them) i have to spam wings and still get hit by their range attacks because wings are just 4 projectiles.

    so you suggest that the ability needs to be tuned in order to being able of counter and entire class just with 1 spammeable button?

    #EsoForumsLogic

    Only if you are really bad sorc... you have curse, detonation, meteor, drop a storm atro, lightning staff and other stuff... if i want to whip you i need to get close which means i have to walk in mines... so many counters but yeah if all you do is shoot weave, force shock, frags than it will counter you. Just like harness magicka basically counters all my whips...

    the good old "if you are a bad sorc....". No decent DK will die just with force pulse weaving, deto will be useless for single target, lighthing staff only tickles people, dawnbreaker is out of the picture, and curse without a good timed frag (that you want to be able of reflect 100% with your suggested buff to dragon fire) is not enought.

    If you are asking to a buff to dragon fire scale is because you are a "bad dk".
    Edited by ManDraKE on 17 May 2016 19:31
  • leepalmer95
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    I'd prefer it if they increased it to like 6-8 projectiles, or 4 projectiles per person or something.

    Heck i'd be happy if they just made force pulse/ medium fire weaves count as 1.

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  • Firerock2
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    they should keep dragon fire scale as it is but buff the other morph so it can reflect 8 projectiles instead of giving a really really crappy armor buff
  • Bosov
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    ManDraKE wrote: »
    Bosov wrote: »
    ManDraKE wrote: »
    Bosov wrote: »
    Now when i fight a destro/resto sorc (most of them) i have to spam wings and still get hit by their range attacks because wings are just 4 projectiles.

    so you suggest that the ability needs to be tuned in order to being able of counter and entire class just with 1 spammeable button?

    #EsoForumsLogic

    Only if you are really bad sorc... you have curse, detonation, meteor, drop a storm atro, lightning staff and other stuff... if i want to whip you i need to get close which means i have to walk in mines... so many counters but yeah if all you do is shoot weave, force shock, frags than it will counter you. Just like harness magicka basically counters all my whips...

    the good old "if you are a bad sorc....". No decent DK will die just with force pulse weaving, deto will be useless for single target, lighthing staff only tickles people, dawnbreaker is out of the picture, and curse without a good timed frag (that you want to be able of reflect 100% with your suggested buff to dragon fire) is not enought.

    If you are asking to a buff to dragon fire scale is because you are a "bad dk".


    There are a lot of DK's who forget to put up their wings so you would be able to hit them regardless. The reason magicka dk is my favorite class is basically because of the wings, as soon as i die to snipe or frag spam on any of my other characters i switch to my dk. However when i do have multiple people mindless spamming snipe, frags, poison injection, swallow soul or even trying to shieldbreaker my ignious shield i want to be able to reflect more than just 4. Sometimes i spam wings so many times its a miracle i dont take off and fly away but i still get a death recap with ranged attacks...

    4 seconds with 4 projectiles is just really really short. 4 seconds of reflecting everything would be fine open world i think but in a 1v1 it might be a little strong. However mag dk doesnt really have anything else which is like really good about the class anyway so give us something...

    Wings are also quite expensive magicka wise... you cant really spam them over and over again if you intend to do anything else besides flapping your wings. The only time i actually spam them is when i am about to get zerged down and i dont want some backline snipestacker to get the kill.

    What about 4 seconds reflecting 8 or 6 things? 4 things is just too low of a number..
    Edited by Bosov on 19 May 2016 02:25
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  • ToRelax
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    Well I would welcome not being able to kill DKs just by having two Sorcs spam light attack + crushing shock... it is amusing though.
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