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Nightblades op

  • Azor_Ahaii
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    Destyran wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    So all the people saying RD OP you havent seen anything yet. Nbs are coming!

    You really need to Learn to Play.

    Lol zerg v zerg while they all spam one ability come take them out then all yours aye mate?

    Your zerg must just be absolute dog sh*te, L2P m9, git gud scrub
  • clayandaudrey_ESO
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    You must be new here. This game used to be known as elder staves online or elder skirts online. This is like a big ole circle. It will come back around.

    My suggestion is if you don't like it you need to get one of every class to max level so you can always roll with what you think is OP. Cheers.
    Edited by clayandaudrey_ESO on 13 May 2016 12:02
  • Chrlynsch
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    Heard a bow one time, then I deployed flappy flaps
    Edited by Chrlynsch on 13 May 2016 12:11
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  • Destyran
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    Azor_Ahaii wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    So all the people saying RD OP you havent seen anything yet. Nbs are coming!

    You really need to Learn to Play.

    Lol zerg v zerg while they all spam one ability come take them out then all yours aye mate?

    Your zerg must just be absolute dog sh*te, L2P m9, git gud scrub
    HahHaha its a pug random players in smaller groups i dont run zergs that *** no fun
  • Destyran
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    Aquanova wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    We just had like 20 mixed vs 20 nb nbs win because like 5 spam snipe 5 spam poison 9 surprise attack and one ambush fear spamming its broken. Had 8 templars with heals [not rememberance] even spammed jb on them still get *** on we all have like 37-40k magika 3000+ spell damage. And to think they are getting even more buffed. I donno if i can deal man. I dont like playing the class at all so im not gonna join them. But seriously they are op have so many buffs instant damage ani cancel rotations and with snipe and poison and fear you cant win. Blue have caught on and bow there are 2 massive nb zergs running around

    You should of had those 8 templars spamming RD instead of heals ;)

    Problem solved!

    We tried spamming RD lol.


    To the guy who says stam nbs underpowered you are lying this is how they broke in the first place yeah i can do more dps than them in pve but They are overpowered in pvp. Especially organised stealth zergs.
  • Destyran
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    Also i dont know if anyone knows the step back and forward glitch but 4-5 snipes hit at once you die before break. But all i have learned from these comments is to start a 24 man templar zerg and just have half spam rd half spam df lesson learned i have l2p
  • laksikus
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    everyone dies if he gets hit by 5 good snipers at once out of stealth, no matter what class the target of the snipers are.
    And EVERY class has access to snipe.
    Everyone has access to bosmer and khajits.

    So what exactly is your problem?


    and "cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection "
    something seems off here. since when can stam nb spam cloak?
    Or mag nb snipe?

    If you have problems with gankers from stealth, thats not NB, every class can do that,
    and self buffs?
    nb get major resistance if they use a shadow ability, sorcs and dk have same buff, nb get mark... mark someone out of stealth and its the best way to not be able to kill him if he is good enough.
    that leaves grom focus 8% more damage... rly? from a 10k snipe that 800 damage.
    While DKs get buffed 40% for heavy attacks, which makes DK oone of the best snipe gankers in game.
  • JD2013
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    Duiwel wrote: »
    JD2013 wrote: »
    The stamina NB's are coming.

    Run, run, run for your life.

    The stamina NB's are coming.

    Oops, too late, there goes your life. ;)

    Hey JD did you get your NB to VR yet :wink: ?

    @Duiwel

    VR8 and doing great! :smiley:
    Edited by JD2013 on 13 May 2016 12:57
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  • MaxwellC
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    Only two problems I've got with NB is not being able to get them out of cloak unless I use a pot (If we had the old Flames of Oblivion that wouldn't be a problem) and fear when the game laggs (which is pretty much 9/10 times), when this game has it's lagg in PvP fear becomes the most over powered ability in all of tamerial.
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  • Strider_Roshin
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    His argument became void the moment he said "srsly".
  • binho
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    So basically:

    "BLA BLA BLA BLA

    I GOT KILLED BY A NIGHTBLATE

    BLA BLA BLA BLA"
  • Lynx7386
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    -class is doing what it was meant to do
    -please nerf, I'm a terrible player
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  • Katahdin
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    95% of my deaths has one or more of these in it

    Vicious death
    Proxy detonation
    Radiant destruction with 28m range

    I've been wrecked by templars, dragon knights and sorc.

    NB is not OP.
    Stam blade has no buffs, is high crit kill and gtfo or die

    If you seriously think it is then they are all OP

    Nerf the nerf threads
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  • jdube
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    I play on the xbox one and when im in the alliance war 90% of the people on the other sides are nightblades, ill see a sorc and templars here and there, finding a dragonknights like finding a unicorn but literaly almost everyone is a nightblade so that means they must be op because otherwise there wouldnt be so many to the point where your fighting nightblade armys.
  • susmitds
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    jdube wrote: »
    I play on the xbox one and when im in the alliance war 90% of the people on the other sides are nightblades, ill see a sorc and templars here and there, finding a dragonknights like finding a unicorn but literaly almost everyone is a nightblade so that means they must be op because otherwise there wouldnt be so many to the point where your fighting nightblade armys.

    If you are seeing the nightblades of the other sides all the time, then the whole bunch of them are noobs, maybe except a few brave ones. You don't get to see good nightblades till you are dead.
  • Izaki
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    Oh yes, that 8% damage buff from Relentless Focus is truly godlike.

    Bow to me, peasant.

    Well thing is. If a sorc slots 4 sorc abilities on their bar they get the exact same bonus passively (Expert Mage passive Storm Calling). So yeah...
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  • Danksta
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    NNNNEEECCCRRRROOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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  • susmitds
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    Oh yes, that 8% damage buff from Relentless Focus is truly godlike.

    Bow to me, peasant.

    Well thing is. If a sorc slots 4 sorc abilities on their bar they get the exact same bonus passively (Expert Mage passive Storm Calling). So yeah...

    Uh, no. 8% more Spell/Weapon dmg is not equal to 8% extra damage. It is equal to around 3% more damage for stamina and 2.5% more damage for magicka (as magicka pools are bigger).
  • Izaki
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    MacCait wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    Nightblades are OP? Seriously? I think we're probably the weakest class in the game. We have a good escape (cloak), some high burst damage, but we can't usually sit and fight toe to toe for too long. Sorcs nuke, Templars have their damn kill rooms (houses) and DK's are well, Dk's... Every class has strengths and weaknesses. Assassins are not supposed to announce themselves and fight out in the open, we die. That's why NB's have Shadow.

    Each class just needs to learn how to fight the other classes.

    To say NB's are OP is a bit laughable when you compare them to other classes and their abilities. IMO

    To say that NBs are the weakest class is laughable too. I have a PvP only stamblade (because they suck in PvE). I can tell you one thing for sure: they are extremely strong. No one has that much burst. If you're having sustain issues I suggest you slot Siphonning Attacks because its the strongest sustain buff in the game. Other than sustain there's really no reason for a nightblade not to be able to fight for as long as a DK or a Templar.

    NBs aren't the strongest but they certainly are NOT the weakest.

    Sorcs nuke? What planet are you living on? They've got 1 stamina skill FFS. I rek most stamina sorcs I came across. They are laughable in PvP when they aren't Fengrush or Alcast. Thats what you get when you grab a build without even checking if it fits your playstyle I guess. They are very good in PvE though thats for sure. Almost as good as DKs DPS-wise. I play one too.
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  • Izaki
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    Oh yes, that 8% damage buff from Relentless Focus is truly godlike.

    Bow to me, peasant.

    Well thing is. If a sorc slots 4 sorc abilities on their bar they get the exact same bonus passively (Expert Mage passive Storm Calling). So yeah...

    Uh, no. 8% more Spell/Weapon dmg is not equal to 8% extra damage. It is equal to around 3% more damage for stamina and 2.5% more damage for magicka (as magicka pools are bigger).

    Yep I just realized how stupid it was what I just said. Sorrrryyyyyyyy.
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  • LeDave
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    you kidding right? nb are underpowered, please buff them as much as you can zos. i get killed by everyone besides my own shadow.
  • Necrelios
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    The thing about Nightblades is that the class is just so well designed, they pretty much benefit from everything you can shake a stick at. So many options for gear sets, and for magicka nightblades especially, although a bit squishy, have abilities that can directly benefit from dual wielding swords without having to worry about the attack weaving problems other magicka classes have with this.

    EDIT: Nice Necro, got me good :p
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  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Niceee, then I am joining the dark side.

    I originally only started an NB because it seemed the best for Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood kind of play.

    Now I just love my NB.

    NBs are easy mode in PvP...always have been. Those and Mag Sorcs. Only now NBs have scaling abilities, maelstrom weapons, and Incap Strike. It is ridiculously easy to play both a magblade and stam NB in PvP
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  • susmitds
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    Niceee, then I am joining the dark side.

    I originally only started an NB because it seemed the best for Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood kind of play.

    Now I just love my NB.

    NBs are easy mode in PvP...always have been. Those and Mag Sorcs. Only now NBs have scaling abilities, maelstrom weapons, and Incap Strike. It is ridiculously easy to play both a magblade and stam NB in PvP

    Even easier to play a Magplar or a Stamplar.
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    Azor_Ahaii wrote: »
    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    Wtf u on about??? Stam blades are the most under powered class in the game.
    The most OP class is stam sorc

    Stam NB may be putting out less DPS than the other stam toons in PvE, but it is still leaps and bounds above magicka in PvE atm (thanks largely to the Maelstrom daggers and axes).

    PvP is a different subject altogether. Stam NB always has been extremely well balanced and very powerful in PvP. It is even more so now.
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  • PlagueMonk
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Nuff said to many self buffs and instant damage. New thing in cyrodill every one is running in cloaked zergs of nightblade spamming snipe poison injection and suprise attck etc. sick of elderblades online. Buff another class for more diversity. End rant srsly tho dont deny

    You see the fallacy in your argument there? TWO of the three skills you listed aren't even NB skills. Your problem is with Archers. I know of 2 classes that can reflect projectiles, play one and laugh at the spammers.
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    As if you need to be a nightblade to spam crap snipe in a zerg vs zerg fight. HEH.
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  • FortheloveofKrist
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    Stamblades are weak? Then how did I get 200k Tel Var in the last couple weeks. Are the people I'm ganking just the worst players ever?


    Hmm. Maybe they are. Maybe I just pick shiny targets.



  • bowmanz607
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    So you must not be seeing the stam sorcs running around with hurricane dawnbreaker or the templars spamming bol/Jesus beam or the tanks dk's running around with the tether from the support line. Or perhaps you missed all the blazing shield troll builds. Perhaps you missed the stam dk taking tons of damage and healing while dishing out top end aoe damage to groups. Perhaps you don't pve and see that a stam nb is arguably the worst for endgame pve. Oh and let's not forget thoseverything Jabby jab stam templars that double dip in cp.

    Hmmmm.....

    I get the feeling you don't see a lot of things that happen in pvp. Perhaps you need to learn how to fight a nb.

    I mean I die more to stam templars than anything else. I don't go crying they are op. I find some fri3nds to fight against so I can learn how to fight my weakness. (I also have some trouble with mag dk in non cp b/c I am usually a vamp so can get rest against a solid player.)
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