Nightblades run pvp now

xboxone1Q

I main a Templar but this is now nightblades online, add pve campaign so we don't have to deal with all the tryhards nightblades out their. This is why Skyrim was great people wouldn't ruin your time on their cause it was singleplayers only.

[Edited to remove demands]

ostrapz

You have to fight for the pact!! Seriously though cyrodil is. A warzone wouldnt tht break your immersion

Strider_Roshin

So those yellow beams I see being spammed all over Cyrodiil are from Nightblades? And here this whole time I thought those were Templars. *Phew* thanks for informing me. I'd hate to be clueless about the class demographics of Cyrodiil.

brandishsteel

elder Templar online

Caza99

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

So those yellow beams I see being spammed all over Cyrodiil are from Nightblades? And here this whole time I thought those were Templars. *Phew* thanks for informing me. I'd hate to be clueless about the class demographics of Cyrodiil.

Why you gotta beat me to it I was gonna make a sarcastic comment about templars too

Caza99

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

Pallio

So which quest do you prefer, kill 20 NB, Templars, Sorc.,DK, any is the best sure... but when you get anything but NB, you know you are like #×%#%... NB or ANY, is all anyone wants because 90% or people in PVP are NB anyway.

aLi3nZ

There is a lot of all classes . I have seen a big rise if Templar dps and Templar tank. There is a few Templar tanks I have seen that a group of 6 ep just stopped trying to kill because they were just too tanky. Eventually when we had 9 on them they went down. What is cr
azy is that they were also doing great dps and they were not emperor. Seen a few Templar tanks like this and of course there is sone magiCA dks that might be able to do the same but they don't seem as common. Good luck trying go vicious death one hit these Templar tanks and dks

Caza99

Pallio wrote: »

So which quest do you prefer, kill 20 NB, Templars, Sorc.,DK, any is the best sure... but when you get anything but NB, you know you are like #×%#%... NB or ANY, is all anyone wants because 90% or people in PVP are NB anyway.

Lol I don't have a problem finishing any of the quests xD If I had to pick one I prefer it's kill enemy players, but for class specific probably Sorc. A lot of players are night blades, granted, but most are terrible and don't even pose a threat. Your average magicka night blade now doesn't know what to do if you stop them from using cloak. Every now and then you come across a Magicka night blade that knows their class, knows the mechanics and has some skill. But in my experience all you gotta do is pop a detect pot, magelight or mark them and it's gg for them.

Sord

xboxone1Q wrote: »

I main a Templar but this is now nightblades online, add pve campaign so we don't have to deal with all the tryhards nightblades out their. This is why Skyrim was great people wouldn't ruin your time on their cause it was singleplayers only.

LOL

FriedEggSandwich

If you want to counter NBs roll a sorc, if you want to counter sorc roll a templar or dk, if you want to counter templar or dk roll a NB. Your perspective affects your experience; everyone says magicka DK is weak in pvp but from a purely sorc perspective I disagree, because they counter my build. I don't want them nerfed though. The game is not exactly rock/paper/scissors but is based on that model.

Caza99

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

If you want to counter NBs roll a sorc, if you want to counter sorc roll a templar or dk, if you want to counter templar or dk roll a NB. Your perspective affects your experience; everyone says magicka DK is weak in pvp but from a purely sorc perspective I disagree, because they counter my build. I don't want them nerfed though. The game is not exactly rock/paper/scissors but is based on that model.

You can counter every class with any class. You don't have to be a Templar or DK to counter sorc. And it takes a lot more than just rolling another class to counter other classes. I can kill almost any magicka DK with my sorcerer, for example, using just lightning staff heavies and curse. You can counter a sorc using nb as well. Just know your class, understand it's mechanics and just learn from defeats.

Wreuntzylla

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

FriedEggSandwich

Caza99 wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

If you want to counter NBs roll a sorc, if you want to counter sorc roll a templar or dk, if you want to counter templar or dk roll a NB. Your perspective affects your experience; everyone says magicka DK is weak in pvp but from a purely sorc perspective I disagree, because they counter my build. I don't want them nerfed though. The game is not exactly rock/paper/scissors but is based on that model.

You can counter every class with any class. You don't have to be a Templar or DK to counter sorc. And it takes a lot more than just rolling another class to counter other classes. I can kill almost any magicka DK with my sorcerer, for example, using just lightning staff heavies and curse. You can counter a sorc using nb as well. Just know your class, understand it's mechanics and just learn from defeats.

Yeah of course you can, I was just speaking generally. Some classes have better tools for countering other classes was my point. Sorcs do well against NBs due to their mobility; I can make more of a detect pot than a templar cos I can streak around with my increased detection range and search a wider area, and curse is one of the only dots that pulls NBs out of cloak by design. DKs do well against sorcs because they can reflect much of their burst. NBs can do well against DKs because they can choose to be melee. I would have hoped it was obvious I was generalising.

Edit: one further point to strengthen my argument; sorc vs. sorc often ends up with a stalemate. You can choose to counter any class with any class, but certain classes make it easier. And if you can kill a dk with just curse and lightening staff heavy attacks then you fought a bad dk.

Caza99

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

When I say it's in my recap I mean it's the ONLY thing in my ftc combat log. They just spam it.

Ariades_swe

Caza99 wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

When I say it's in my recap I mean it's the ONLY thing in my ftc combat log. They just spam it.

Nice try defending nb. Ive played both and nbs way better defence and offence when played by a skilled player. The nb skillset is aweome for 1vx and good for 1v1. Vicious death synergises best with magicka nbs. Just whatch what streamers that play all classes thinks about nbs compared to other classes.

Lexxypwns

Caza99 wrote: »

Pallio wrote: »

So which quest do you prefer, kill 20 NB, Templars, Sorc.,DK, any is the best sure... but when you get anything but NB, you know you are like #×%#%... NB or ANY, is all anyone wants because 90% or people in PVP are NB anyway.

Lol I don't have a problem finishing any of the quests xD If I had to pick one I prefer it's kill enemy players, but for class specific probably Sorc. A lot of players are night blades, granted, but most are terrible and don't even pose a threat. Your average magicka night blade now doesn't know what to do if you stop them from using cloak. Every now and then you come across a Magicka night blade that knows their class, knows the mechanics and has some skill. But in my experience all you gotta do is pop a detect pot, magelight or mark them and it's gg for them.

This, so much this

Caza99

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

When I say it's in my recap I mean it's the ONLY thing in my ftc combat log. They just spam it.

Nice try defending nb. Ive played both and nbs way better defence and offence when played by a skilled player. The nb skillset is aweome for 1vx and good for 1v1. Vicious death synergises best with magicka nbs. Just whatch what streamers that play all classes thinks about nbs compared to other classes.

Can I has a lol button please?

Caza99

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Pallio wrote: »

So which quest do you prefer, kill 20 NB, Templars, Sorc.,DK, any is the best sure... but when you get anything but NB, you know you are like #×%#%... NB or ANY, is all anyone wants because 90% or people in PVP are NB anyway.

Lol I don't have a problem finishing any of the quests xD If I had to pick one I prefer it's kill enemy players, but for class specific probably Sorc. A lot of players are night blades, granted, but most are terrible and don't even pose a threat. Your average magicka night blade now doesn't know what to do if you stop them from using cloak. Every now and then you come across a Magicka night blade that knows their class, knows the mechanics and has some skill. But in my experience all you gotta do is pop a detect pot, magelight or mark them and it's gg for them.

This, so much this

I'm a nightblade myself and I do it lol
Also, Hi Lexxy. Come back to PC sometime :P

Lexxypwns

Caza99 wrote: »

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

When I say it's in my recap I mean it's the ONLY thing in my ftc combat log. They just spam it.

Nice try defending nb. Ive played both and nbs way better defence and offence when played by a skilled player. The nb skillset is aweome for 1vx and good for 1v1. Vicious death synergises best with magicka nbs. Just whatch what streamers that play all classes thinks about nbs compared to other classes.

Can I has a lol button please?

99.99% of magblades have 0 defense outside of cloak + healing ward spam. Even the truly skilled ones just die if you keep them out of cloak. It is by far the squishiest class. Stamblade has some very solid survivability, but it is less than that of stamplars and stam dk, so they're far from the best even.

Honestly, magblade aoe burst is too much atm, but their defense is trash unless they're willing to give up most of that burst.

Jaronking

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

This happens all the time with my buddy whenever we are running together when I get someone in execute range he just hit them with Radiant and take my kills.Which sucks because me and him are both close in kills and trying to stay past the other.

Caza99

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

When I say it's in my recap I mean it's the ONLY thing in my ftc combat log. They just spam it.

Nice try defending nb. Ive played both and nbs way better defence and offence when played by a skilled player. The nb skillset is aweome for 1vx and good for 1v1. Vicious death synergises best with magicka nbs. Just whatch what streamers that play all classes thinks about nbs compared to other classes.

Can I has a lol button please?

99.99% of magblades have 0 defense outside of cloak + healing ward spam. Even the truly skilled ones just die if you keep them out of cloak. It is by far the squishiest class. Stamblade has some very solid survivability, but it is less than that of stamplars and stam dk, so they're far from the best even.

Honestly, magblade aoe burst is too much atm, but their defense is trash unless they're willing to give up most of that burst.

Yup and cloak isn't reliable enough to do the job properly.
I agree about aoe burst though, the prox + tether + vd is too much. But at the same time, it's only good against large amounts of people. Fight a build based around that combo 1v1 or even 2v1 and they struggle to stay alive and manage their magicka pool.

Ariades_swe

Lol

Caza99

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Caza99 wrote: »

But seriously, I see radiant oppression in my death recap more often than any night blade skill. Learn to counter night blades and you won't have a problem.

I don't want to be captain obvious, but it's a channeled execute. Even if it does crap damage it has more chances to get the killing blow.

When you hear a non-templar tell a templar to stop stealing KBs, they mean it. They did all the work and that lazy arse templar stold the glory.

That's the only thing wrong about RD in my book.

When I say it's in my recap I mean it's the ONLY thing in my ftc combat log. They just spam it.

Nice try defending nb. Ive played both and nbs way better defence and offence when played by a skilled player. The nb skillset is aweome for 1vx and good for 1v1. Vicious death synergises best with magicka nbs. Just whatch what streamers that play all classes thinks about nbs compared to other classes.

Can I has a lol button please?

99.99% of magblades have 0 defense outside of cloak + healing ward spam. Even the truly skilled ones just die if you keep them out of cloak. It is by far the squishiest class. Stamblade has some very solid survivability, but it is less than that of stamplars and stam dk, so they're far from the best even.

Honestly, magblade aoe burst is too much atm, but their defense is trash unless they're willing to give up most of that burst.

Yup and cloak isn't reliable enough to do the job properly.
I agree about aoe burst though, the prox + tether + vd is too much. But at the same time, it's only good against large amounts of people. Fight a build based around that combo 1v1 or even 2v1 and they struggle to stay alive and manage their magicka pool.

*** you must be bad if yoy think nbs have the hardest time surviving. Youre escape skills are active which are the reasons why some players do great and some really sucks. You might need to work on youre reactions.
Are you on Eu ps4/console?

Please can I have a lol button? I'll sacrifice @SurprisedFour91 for a lol button.
Re-read what I said. A build based around maximizing aoe burst damage with vd, proxy and soul tether has the hardest time surviving because they have absolutely no sustain and are extremely squishy. We have unreliable escape skills and no reliable class based heal or shield. The class is meant to be bursty. It's a kill or be killed class because there is no standing your ground and tanking.
Also, yes my reaction times are slow thanks to aussie Internet giving me a fantastic 320+ ping in pvp, and my actual slow reaction time.
And no, I'm PC NA.

Ariades_swe

So you think another class built with same setup have an easier time survive?
Lmao

Caza99

Ariades_swe wrote: »

So you think another class built with same setup have an easier time survive?
Lmao

You are taking what I say out of context lol. My original comment about nb survivability was in response and discussion about the aoe burst being too much. All Im saying is the drawback is no survivability or resource sustain.
Also, nice touch erasing your previous post...

Lucius_Aelius

Complains about Elder Scrolls Online, a Multi-player game, not being single-player... Can't tell if serious, but this is too stupid and is probably just a troll.

Ariades_swe

I erased it because I think I was a little harsh in my comment.
Lets agree to disagree.

Brrrofski

Magica NB has no survivability? What are you lot smoking. Ifyou're running VD and have 800 regen, you don't deserve survivability. You're put all your eggs in one basket.

But the class is not squishy. Healing from sap, healing ward, dodge chance in double take, cloak and shadow image. They have great survivability when you combine all those. Still don't even see many people even use shadow image in pvp.

kewl

All this NB hate is making my Sorc feel unloved.

Docmandu

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Stamblade has some very solid survivability, but it is less than that of stamplars

Say what? Cloak, dodge+speed in 1 spell, cripple... vs.. what exactly is so much better on that stamplar?