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Lekis Focus

olsborg
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Dear ZOS

Are you seriously gonna leave the 5th set bonus like it is? Reducing the stambuilds bread and butter heal(Vigor) by 25%?

I mean, a 5th bonus on an armor set is supposed to be a positive addition to your build, but as I see it, this one is a 2:1 tradeoff, you trade your own aoe dmg and your best healing skill so you take less dmg from aoe. Please revisit this set and remove the healing debuff from the 5th bonus, atleast the selfheal on vigor.

PC EU
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  • Vaoh
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    I want to use this set, but a reduction to the main Stamina heal (Vigor) is a big tradeoff. If not running Rally as well, this would probably ruin yor build.

    I don't know, hopefully someone with more info on this set can talk about how effective it truly performs.
  • Llilium
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    yeah, i agree that heals shouldn't be affected on this set. maybe even increase the percentages. I also feel like there should be a decent spell damage/ weap damage increase to bring more people to use it
  • Zyle
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    Only way to offset it is max quick recovery too :/ Even then you're still that many points down, maybe if cap wasn't 500 I'd feel comfortable with that trade off but I'd be more excited for a lesser % on the set.

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    Vanikath - LVL50 Magicka DK
  • Master_Kas
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    Really wanted to use this set on my stamina nightblade since it lowers the aoe burst FOTM builds that are running around but sadly won't give it a shot until unless the self-debuff doesn't apply to vigor.

    Nice work ZOS :trollface:
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  • olsborg
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    Id be pleasantly surprised if @Wrobel and the team would actually take this feedback to heart and do some changes. One can only hope.

    PC EU
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  • Solariken
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    Agree, OP! The 5-set bonus is by far more bane than boon.
  • olsborg
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    Solariken wrote: »
    Agree, OP! The 5-set bonus is by far more bane than boon.

    Yea, amazingly they managed to make a 5set bonus that has the negatives outweigh the positives, quite astonishing infact.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • Kalante
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    lol stamina gets a set that nerfs them.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    its been a long time since we have heard anything new. i would not be surprised if this set did get changed. there is probably a big bug/hot fix patch coming. probably why Zos delayed this weeks maintenance till Tuesday.
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  • dsalter
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    i'm pretty sure Vampires sneezed on the set and gave it more debuff than buff
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  • olsborg
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    its been a long time since we have heard anything new. i would not be surprised if this set did get changed. there is probably a big bug/hot fix patch coming. probably why Zos delayed this weeks maintenance till Tuesday.

    That would be extremely surprising. They already "fixed" it cause it was bugged in other ways at TG release.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • gdefter
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    Well for me when i hear leki set i instantly think 'oh yeah that s the 2 piece weapon damage set'...absolutely no reason to use the 5 piece...
  • olsborg
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    gdefter wrote: »
    Well for me when i hear leki set i instantly think 'oh yeah that s the 2 piece weapon damage set'...absolutely no reason to use the 5 piece...

    Aye, sadly thats all its good for atm. It would be great if the set could be used for the 5th set aswell, but as it is now that is highly unadvised.

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  • T@rty
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    Like most people I'm only using 2 pieces from this set, why on earth would anyone use the full 5 piece set? Then again most Stamina builds in PVP have converted to Magicka, wonder why....... :-(

    ESO, play as you like except in PVP......
  • olsborg
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    T@rty wrote: »
    Like most people I'm only using 2 pieces from this set, why on earth would anyone use the full 5 piece set? Then again most Stamina builds in PVP have converted to Magicka, wonder why....... :-(

    ESO, play as you like except in PVP......

    Nobody would(in their right mind)wear this 5piece set since it will weaken their Vigor heal by a whooping 25%, I dont understand how ZOS tought this would ever be a viable set for a stambuild, it pretty much goes to show that they dont rly play their own game, atleast not pvp.

    PC EU
    PvP only
  • MoeCoastie
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    how do I delete my post
    Edited by MoeCoastie on 11 April 2016 10:49
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Yes, because it's a stamina set; and ZOS hates stamina.
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    This sounds like zergbad problems...
    Smiff
  • olsborg
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    Yes, because it's a stamina set; and ZOS hates stamina.

    Im almost starting to feel that myself, theres much more options for magicka builds with the new sets released with DLCs, imo. And ofc the fact that some stam sets (lekis) are breaking your main heal.

    PC EU
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  • Lifecode666
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    Please lokk at this sett zos
    Up the hornz
  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Since no one of you guys came up with that, I'll drop a hint: it is possible to have Leki's 5pc on one bar and vigor on the other. But how to do that, well, you have to figure that out on your own. Good luck.
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  • olsborg
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    Since no one of you guys came up with that, I'll drop a hint: it is possible to have Leki's 5pc on one bar and vigor on the other. But how to do that, well, you have to figure that out on your own. Good luck.

    Thats one way, but is it effective? Id say no, 50% of the time (on a good day) you will get hit full dmg from aoe, still makes the set go from assed to halfassed if you ask me.

    PC EU
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  • Xsorus
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    If you want to laugh

    Run Reactive Armor + Leki

    the 25% reduction from rally seems bad

    Till you eat a Soul Tether/Prox Combo and it does like 3k damage to you.

  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    @Xsorus Rally is not reduced. Only Vigor would be effected (in regards to healing).
    PS4 NA DC
  • FloppyTouch
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    :/
    Edited by FloppyTouch on 14 April 2016 12:34
  • Xsorus
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    @Xsorus Rally is not reduced. Only Vigor would be effected (in regards to healing).

    Sorry I meant to say vigor not rally
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    If you want to laugh

    Run Reactive Armor + Leki

    the 25% reduction from rally seems bad

    Till you eat a Soul Tether/Prox Combo and it does like 3k damage to you.

    My friend I need you to step up your anti Zerg build 5 Leki + 5 Pact Heavy ( Bastion of The Heartland) 2 Blessing of the Potentates. One Hand and Shield & Dual Wield.

    45% less damage from AoEs just with the sets, -65% with Blade Cloak
    20% less damage from siege.
    5% less damage from players which cuts AoE damage down to -50% and -70%. With 25% less damage from Siege.

    Not to mention your block cost less and you block more damage, with 5 Heavy, One Hand & Shield passives and Defensive Stance.

    All classes have some kind a self heal use it. It may not the better the Vigor normally is but look at them with the heal and the side effects/ class passives they add or buff.
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  • imapogostick
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    If you want to laugh

    Run Reactive Armor + Leki

    the 25% reduction from rally seems bad

    Till you eat a Soul Tether/Prox Combo and it does like 3k damage to you.

    My friend I need you to step up your anti Zerg build 5 Leki + 5 Pact Heavy ( Bastion of The Heartland) 2 Blessing of the Potentates. One Hand and Shield & Dual Wield.

    45% less damage from AoEs just with the sets, -65% with Blade Cloak
    20% less damage from siege.
    5% less damage from players which cuts AoE damage down to -50% and -70%. With 25% less damage from Siege.

    Not to mention your block cost less and you block more damage, with 5 Heavy, One Hand & Shield passives and Defensive Stance.

    All classes have some kind a self heal use it. It may not the better the Vigor normally is but look at them with the heal and the side effects/ class passives they add or buff.

    Except the dk self heal dragon blood is garbage and can't be relied on for stam skills. You absolutely need vigor and almost have to have rally as well. I in fact use all 3 just to heal decent enough. Gdb mostly for the stam regeneration tho. Works ok if you need a fast heal and you have 5 percent health left other than that...Not worth it
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