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"This patch will stop zegs" - Zenimax 2k16.

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Cozzy1991
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Title says it all. IMO, it made them worse, the "zeg buster" gear set is being used FOR the zergs.
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    be one with the zerg young one
    Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
    F G R Junior - Templar AR26
    This One Had Name Changed - Nightblade AR19
    Fat Grim Streaker - Sorcerer AR15
    M12-GM - Guardians of the Twelve-GM - Crown Store Heroes - ETU
    RÀGE - R.I.P
  • Cozzy1991
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    I'm not a poncy piece of ***, I cant zerg.
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    Ahhh, to zerg requires true skill.... one does not simply turn and start zerging.... it takes years of dedication and hard work to develop a true hive mentality.
    Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
    F G R Junior - Templar AR26
    This One Had Name Changed - Nightblade AR19
    Fat Grim Streaker - Sorcerer AR15
    M12-GM - Guardians of the Twelve-GM - Crown Store Heroes - ETU
    RÀGE - R.I.P
  • Baconlad
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    Psh...the zergs arent really the ones I turn from, hell even I endulge in zergsurfing here and there. The groups that I refuse to fight are the ultra organized stealth blob healing spring spamming raids.
  • Wreuntzylla
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    Not that I have said this 50 times before... but the only way to bust zergs following ZoS' line of thought is by making the damage come upon death of the dealer.

    In other words, make soul shatter proc on death and scale based on enemy numbers. Problem solved.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    What a surprise, its not like any of the promised improvements to pvp were upheld or anything.
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    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    FOR THE SWARM!
    PS4 NA DC
  • 1Grumpy_dunmer1
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    Let things simmer out there's new things everyone wants to try. I think in a week or so we will see zergs returning to their more resource friendly builds.... I think
    XxbothbarrelsxX ps4 NA
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    Magicka dragonknight vr16 EP
  • ku5h
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    Terran bio counters Zerg pretty well.
    Edited by ku5h on 11 April 2016 18:12
  • Kupoking
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    A lot of people, ZoS included, fail to realize that if you add an Anti-zerg mechanic in the game, the zergs will use it too.

    Same applies to AOE caps.
    Same applies to VD.

    Note aside, with the way Cyrodiil works, you will NEVER remove zergs from the game. Large number groups is the base of a 3 way faction, keep siegeing, empire conquering, warfare.

    I think its time to revamp IC personally to allow or encourage smallscale. Arena would be another band-aid fix that would acually work better than anything that has been attempted to please the misters/misses ''youonlywinbecauseyouzergnoob''

    Anyways, for me I need feel the most satisfied in this game then when I win fights in which me or my group are outnumbered or facing competent players. Therefore, ''zerging'' to me is just an excuse for losing fights. And lets face it : everyone here zergs at one point and everybody here is pissed losing to them too.
    http://imgur.com/E3zWjiR
  • Xsorus
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    This patch was never designed to stop zergs.

    It was to punish stacking..which it does.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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  • Sureshawt
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    This patch was never designed to stop zergs.

    It was to punish stacking..which it does.

    ^ This

    The game is supposed to feature largescale battles with huge numbers of players where encounters are unpredictable and chaotic.

    If you want orderly canned PvP where the numbers are predetermined and predictably even then you need to find another game unless they decide to offer some form of arena style controlled PvP.

    Edited by Sureshawt on 12 April 2016 21:04
  • allen-iverson
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    this patch was made to punish all players
    *Marcel Rigmond voice* "Filthy casual."

    allen-iverson, Metta World Peace, Kobe Brÿant, Goran Dragić, Dwyane Wade
  • americansteel
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    VD is like sorc shields. they are scrub crutches, bad players use crutches if you cant learn how to walk use a wheel chair.
    stop ''zergs'' its called large scale battle ESO was MARKETED as such.
    few campaigns means more lag more players on each server.
    NO LONGER PLAYING ESO

    POOR SERVER PERFORMANCE
    LAG
    LOAD SCREENS
    DONE
  • PhatGrimReaper
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    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!
    Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
    F G R Junior - Templar AR26
    This One Had Name Changed - Nightblade AR19
    Fat Grim Streaker - Sorcerer AR15
    M12-GM - Guardians of the Twelve-GM - Crown Store Heroes - ETU
    RÀGE - R.I.P
  • Zheg
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    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.
    Edited by Zheg on 13 April 2016 03:37
  • heystreethawk
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    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.
    GM of Fantasia
    I heard those symphonies come quick
  • HoloYoitsu
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    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.
    ZOS foreclosed on his Templar house.
  • Zheg
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    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)
  • RebornV3x
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    If anything it made the zergs worse nothing better than 24+ guys running at you with proxy det with at least a few players with VD set yet another annoying game mechanic for bad players and casuals to fall back on.
    Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • Master_Kas
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    Every patch makes it more zergy :trollface:
    EU | PC
  • heystreethawk
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    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)

    The title of the thread is "This patch will stop zegs"; the comment wasn't about your group.
    GM of Fantasia
    I heard those symphonies come quick
  • Zheg
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    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)

    The title of the thread is "This patch will stop zegs"; the comment wasn't about your group.
    Then, ffs OP, spell my name right.
  • PosternHouse
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    Dynamic ultimate generation stopped the zergs once upon a time. But Zenimax is allergic to fun and good mechanics so they scrapped it in favor of shite zerg-friendly gameplay. They keep trying include zerg-buster mechanics and skills, yet those keep rewarding the larger groups.

    WTB devs that aren't casuals. PST
  • Cinbri
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    It didn't stoped zergs, and probably most people already understood it back on pts.
    ZOS, you must realize simple thing - When people learnt how to stack, they already won't unstack no matter what, so it is usless to create such things like Vicious Death to punish them, instead you should promote small-scalers advantages, main thing i can think about is - dinamic/semi-dinamic ultimate generation system: back in time it helped soloers/small-scalers. It will give advantage to those people and zergers won't be "punished" but simply won't gain any advantage from it when 20 people will hit 3 people and vie versa for small-scalers, it even help those who run in masses but not stacking on 2m².
    Edited by Cinbri on 13 April 2016 22:22
  • emily3989
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    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Or $40 for a wanna be banker/merchant
    Thasi - V16 Magblade Vampire PC/NA
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)

    The title of the thread is "This patch will stop zegs"; the comment wasn't about your group.
    Then, ffs OP, spell my name right.
    "Wah, spell my name right"
    "Wah, fix my skills"

    You Templars are pretty over demanding, high maintenance premadonas. Why can't you be civil and polite like the NBs?
  • Zheg
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)

    The title of the thread is "This patch will stop zegs"; the comment wasn't about your group.
    Then, ffs OP, spell my name right.
    "Wah, spell my name right"
    "Wah, fix my skills"

    You Templars are pretty over demanding, high maintenance premadonas. Why can't you be civil and polite like the NBs?

    Go into first person, pan your camera, and streak in your direction of choice sorc.
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Zheg wrote: »
    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)

    The title of the thread is "This patch will stop zegs"; the comment wasn't about your group.
    Then, ffs OP, spell my name right.
    "Wah, spell my name right"
    "Wah, fix my skills"

    You Templars are pretty over demanding, high maintenance premadonas. Why can't you be civil and polite like the NBs?

    Go into first person, pan your camera, and streak in your direction of choice sorc.
    No need to be cross just because Wrobel designed my pokemon to replace you.
  • Xsorus
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    Zheg wrote: »
    heystreethawk wrote: »
    Zheg wrote: »
    PhatGrimReaper wrote: »
    The only thing this patch is stopping is Subscriptions!!

    I cancelled the sub I had active since launch over the TG patch. I absolutely refuse to spend any more money on the game, but it's not like they care about that when people are dropping 20 bucks for a reskinned cat mount.

    Sounds like this patch was supposed to stop you and it did.

    Yes, it stopped any chance our groups of 10-24 had of keeping the 60 man red horde in check, go back to spamming your bombards ;)

    Rofl; I could understand quitting over the *** tastic lag you cause... But you quitting over VD is pretty funny
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
    ESO and GW2 PvP videos
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