Visious Death Procing on one person only while still alive?

sneakymitchell

Is this a bug?

https://youtu.be/va7RMqaecqI

bowmanz607

It is a visual bug on combat lig. It doesn't actually proc on one player. Confirmed by zos.

NeilBongStrong

Nah it's def bugged. I've had it hit me and then killed by a sap when it's 1v1 people that say it isn't bugged are the skilless scrubs using it.

People complained about how everything is one shot with little skills. Its now completely out of hand after TG .

raasdal

NeilBongStrong wrote: »

Nah it's def bugged. I've had it hit me and then killed by a sap when it's 1v1 people that say it isn't bugged are the skilless scrubs using it.

People complained about how everything is one shot with little skills. Its now completely out of hand after TG .

No, it is not bugged. Not for you, and not for anyone else.

If you look at the video in slowmotion, it will also be clear that it procs correctly.

It has been stated so many times, that it is a BUG in the DEATH RECAP. Not in the actual gameplay.

DHale

Yeah I use combat log add on sorry console player. It procs after I am dead and does no damage to me. Or anyone else. Since it a skill it is actually taking up a skill that did damage to you in the death recap,

myrrrorb14_ESO

DHale wrote: »

Yeah I use combat log add on sorry console player. It procs after I am dead and does no damage to me. Or anyone else. Since it a skill it is actually taking up a skill that did damage to you in the death recap,

It does the calculations all at once then reports out the information. It merely appears as though the proc damaged you.

1Grumpy_dunmer1

Some people have a hard time believing they died 1v1 with the person that killed them having a useless 5 peice bonus so I switch to julianos..... And again they die but a bit quicker the second time lol

bowmanz607

NeilBongStrong wrote: »

Nah it's def bugged. I've had it hit me and then killed by a sap when it's 1v1 people that say it isn't bugged are the skilless scrubs using it.

People complained about how everything is one shot with little skills. Its now completely out of hand after TG .

Your wrong. Do some real testing.

rfennell_ESO

I've been hit by vicious death procs while solo and didn't die.

Explain away oh defenders of the faith.

Not once... not twice, but plenty of times... more than enough to say that the set is bugged and it's stupid.

myrrrorb14_ESO

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I've been hit by vicious death procs while solo and didn't die.

Explain away oh defenders of the faith.

Not once... not twice, but plenty of times... more than enough to say that the set is bugged and it's stupid.

Link a vid?

Hard to guess what is going wrong without seeing it. All the videos I've seen have involved people dying and questioning the proc in recap and addons. Would be interesting to see one where the proc went off and someone survived it.

bowmanz607

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I've been hit by vicious death procs while solo and didn't die.

Explain away oh defenders of the faith.

Not once... not twice, but plenty of times... more than enough to say that the set is bugged and it's stupid.

prove it. need some proof. I say this because it has been shown on streams (sypher tested live), confirmed to be a visual bug by zos, and tested countless times by numerous people and shown to be in fact a visual bug.

Even the video in this discussion shows a visual bug. watch it. look at the damage numbers in the video. no vd proc. look at the video slowly and you will see no burst damage, but enemies slowly widdleing away at the players health. you will also notice upon a slow play that the VD effect procs after death and not before.

if you can show a video of this actually occuring, then i will concede. As of now, all the evidence, including the video here, points to a visual bug and nothing more.

I urge players to actually test it out and stop relying on a combat log which zos has admitted to being bugged.

its not about defending anything. it is about the hard evidence.

sneakymitchell

But still blame bug or lag. This is just weird for me to die even though someone executed me in the end which it was someone else. And that never happen to me on other players who used it on me when I am by myself.

incite

Its supposed to proc earlier than intended, hence the name "vicious" :-)

leepalmer95

sneakymitchell wrote: »

But still blame bug or lag. This is just weird for me to die even though someone executed me in the end which it was someone else. And that never happen to me on other players who used it on me when I am by myself.

It's probaly hp desync.

Also it's been explained, it's a UI bug it's goes off after you die but is shown in the death recap despite not killing you, it's also placed above the last skill to kill you, which is again like it's been mentioned a UI Bug

Bofrari

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Alcast

Never trust ZOS

sneakymitchell

leepalmer95 wrote: »

sneakymitchell wrote: »

But still blame bug or lag. This is just weird for me to die even though someone executed me in the end which it was someone else. And that never happen to me on other players who used it on me when I am by myself.

It's probaly hp desync.

Also it's been explained, it's a UI bug it's goes off after you die but is shown in the death recap despite not killing you, it's also placed above the last skill to kill you, which is again like it's been mentioned a UI Bug

Yea get that time to time even when it is lagging. Oh well can't wait till they fix lag or not cause there will always be lag. Surprising not much problems lagging out few days back on my home campaign but hey I think everyone is either quitting sooner than later. Most Players are done with this crap in the game. Me I will still play when Dark Souls 3 comes out. Then I will be playing that till maybe when Dark Brotherhood comes out or when they change combat before the Dark Brotherhood patch.

danno8

sneakymitchell wrote: »

Is this a bug?

https://youtu.be/va7RMqaecqI

It's the disintegration proc that finishes you with a 3470 hit while already very low health (that strangely does not show in the floating combat text), then the VD proc goes off after you are dead (which strangely DOES shown in the fct).

Every video I have seen can be explained if you go through slowly.

Vaoh

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

I've been hit by vicious death procs while solo and didn't die.

Explain away oh defenders of the faith.

Not once... not twice, but plenty of times... more than enough to say that the set is bugged and it's stupid.

Pretty sure I have a video of this happening. Will post! Not 100% sure if it's a proc though....

Guarantee it has happened before without death. No way it is a UI bug when Health depletes and I survive through it. Lag must cause wierd issues with this set's proc and I have a hard time believing it is only a UI bug.

qrichou

bowmanz607 wrote: »

It is a visual bug on combat lig. It doesn't actually proc on one player. Confirmed by zos.

they lie

NeilBongStrong

Even if it's a bug (most things are these days ) 14k is obviously *** ***. I always thought the direction was to be moving away from random one shots and move towards skillful game play. I mean this in cyrodiil and gank builds. Not so much duels .

bowmanz607

qrichou wrote: »

bowmanz607 wrote: »

It is a visual bug on combat lig. It doesn't actually proc on one player. Confirmed by zos.

they lie

Cool story. Provide proof.

EsoRecon

It's just a visual bug.

GreenSoup2HoT

Alcast wrote: »

Never trust ZOS

Yeah I agree. How many times did it take Zos to figure out their "fix" for camo hunter did nothing...

When Zos says things like "are internal testing could not replicate the bug", this is most likely because they try to in lag free zones. When half or more of the issues are because of huge lag.

VD for example does look like it proc's early because of lag. You will be half health and you see the animation, however your technically already dead.

The example above also relates to snipe spam. You will be running around and your resources drop to 0... then 2 seconds later you die.

So to my understanding lag is the issue why so many people claim this set is proc'ing early but also death recap's are bugged and have been for a long time.

Lokey0024

https://youtu.be/DRxxTM2CiDU

You can actually see the VD hit before the prox det on the scrolling text.

You also gotta love the 2.5k 3000 sp lava whip. So juicy.

bowmanz607

Lokey0024 wrote: »

https://youtu.be/DRxxTM2CiDU

You can actually see the VD hit before the prox det on the scrolling text.

this video yet again proves the the set is working. slow the video down. look at all of the red numbers. not counting the VD and det numbers they add up to 17,195 out your 24,994 health. (2,130+4441+1,664+3,328+2424+1,944+452+812=17,195). Now dd in your healing 138+138+138=414. so lets subtract that from damage taken. 17,195 (damage taken) - 414 (healing) = 16,781 (damage taken).

so right before det goes off, you have 8,213 health remaining [24,994 (total health) - 16,781 (damage taken) = 8,213 remaining health.

Det then hits for 8,717 which kills you.

now the key here is noticing the animations. As has been confirmed by zos and confirmed by the community, the VD proc is bugged in the combat log which displays the VD damage before the final shot although it didnt proc before the final shot. Again, slow do the video and look at the animations. Detonation goes off first and you are dead, and then upon death VD procs. It is clear as day.

Again, this is just another video showing that it is working as intended. Add the numbers, look at the animations, and slow the video down. It is all there.

Lokey0024

@bowmanz607. Yea slowed it down and youre right.

Now on how much *** happened all the while he used sap essence 2 times. Where did all the damage come from?

bowmanz607

Lokey0024 wrote: »

@bowmanz607. Yea slowed it down and youre right.

Now on how much *** happened all the while he used sap essence 2 times. Where did all the damage come from?

ya i think it was something like LA, lotus fan, maybe lotus fan tick, sap, sap, sap, tick, tick, det.

Something like that it seems. hard to tell with animation canceling etc at times. Thats what is nice about pc, you get add ons to help with that.

bowmanz607

Lokey0024 wrote: »

@bowmanz607. Yea slowed it down and youre right.

Now on how much *** happened all the while he used sap essence 2 times. Where did all the damage come from?

what it does illustrate is the power of det. It shouldn't hit for 9k on a single target. I have seen it hit harder on single target too. They need to find a way to make it hit for like 2k on a single target, but keep the damage on high numbers.