Xbox EU PVP is dead?!

d3nbark3r

As title says... XBOX EU server is all but dead for pvp.

Azura's star, our most competitive campaign is now pretty much always entirely Dagger fall.

Thornblade is nearly always Ebonhart Pact.

Scourge and Haderus are nearly always Aldemeri Dominion.

This is a serious design flaw, and some way needs to be invented to combat this serious lack of balance.

The remaining competitive pvp players now spend most of their time ganking players in IC sewers or dueling in Arena district.

This games pvp community will eventually die for sure if this isn't sorted out sooner or later.

PVE only entertains for so long.... PVP is what keeps people coming back for more for years to come.

RobboEU

Yup I play EP on this server and am close to all the top EP PVP groups none of which actually bother with PVP at the minute due to the DC zerg and the 500 member 'The Kings Legion' guild which literally changes it's message of the day to a location at up rolls the entire DC population. Azuras is broken you'd be stupid to try and play it competitively when it's capped the lags literally unplayable.

Hoping that next patch channels out the populations into different campaigns.

Bosov

Eldruf wrote: »

Yup I play EP on this server and am close to all the top EP PVP groups none of which actually bother with PVP at the minute due to the DC zerg and the 500 member 'The Kings Legion' guild which literally changes it's message of the day to a location at up rolls the entire DC population. Azuras is broken you'd be stupid to try and play it competitively when it's capped the lags literally unplayable.

Hoping that next patch channels out the populations into different campaigns.

I have to correct you there, Kings Legion has 500 men but when their zerg gets whiped they go to Kings Legion 2 which also has 500 members and they get them in pvp.

I used to be in Kings Legion before i switched to AD and sometimes i even had the crown of the zerg. I was instructed by the guildleader to go through the whole roster and invite everyone to the pvp group when it wasnt totally filled up. Having two 24 groups active wasnt really special either.

After a while i got extremly bored by crit rushing everyone just to get a hit. My former zerg friends still seem to enjoy it though.

SneaK

d3nbark3r wrote: »

As title says... XBOX EU server is all but dead for pvp.

Azura's star, our most competitive campaign is now pretty much always entirely Dagger fall.

Thornblade is nearly always Ebonhart Pact.

Scourge and Haderus are nearly always Aldemeri Dominion.

This is a serious design flaw, and some way needs to be invented to combat this serious lack of balance.

The remaining competitive pvp players now spend most of their time ganking players in IC sewers or dueling in Arena district.

This games pvp community will eventually die for sure if this isn't sorted out sooner or later.

PVE only entertains for so long.... PVP is what keeps people coming back for more for years to come.

Logged on earlier today and not a single campaign had a two bar population for any faction. Most I saw was 1 bar on two alliances.

Division came out..

But on topic, I agree that they need to do something. "Buff Servers" shouldn't be a thing. My vote, was for incremental population caps to balance out the alliances.

Qwazzy

SneaK wrote: »

d3nbark3r wrote: »

Division came out..

Sums it up, Won't be actively playing ESO at least until thieves guild comes out, the two week delay for console is definitely hurting its population.

Serjustin19

d3nbark3r wrote: »

As title says... XBOX EU server is all but dead for pvp.

Azura's star, our most competitive campaign is now pretty much always entirely Dagger fall.

Thornblade is nearly always Ebonhart Pact.

Scourge and Haderus are nearly always Aldemeri Dominion.

This is a serious design flaw, and some way needs to be invented to combat this serious lack of balance.

The remaining competitive pvp players now spend most of their time ganking players in IC sewers or dueling in Arena district.

This games pvp community will eventually die for sure if this isn't sorted out sooner or later.

PVE only entertains for so long.... PVP is what keeps people coming back for more for years to come.

I on PS4 EU. We're experiencing same problems as you. Most of campaigns are totally dead. The only campaign however on PS4 EU still active is the Azura Star. So popular. But with upcoming changes to cp points in 2 weeks. I forsee Azura be mostly empty to.

But one campaign is very interesting events. I go tell. Sourge on PS4 Eu. The whole map was always red. I use to be Daggerfall. We Daggerfall use to always fight the reds. But unfortunately the reds completely destroyed us blues. I was the only blue left.

I could only play in scourge without getting kicked out and freeze every minute unlike other campaigns. So I was forced to make a red 1 month ago. Just for one week. But Aldmeri kept on trying in Scourge. Aldmeri reminds me of what Daggerfall use to be in Scourge. So I made and fight for Aldmeri now.

However. What is very strange. Is that 2 days after I switched and fight for the AD. All the Reds left. Eventhough Reds has always take and keep all the keeps. But now us Aldmeri now has all the keeps and still defending. As some of the reds have comeback.

To make it easier instead of this long story. On Scourge PS4 EU

Ebonheart kicked Daggerfall out. Aldmeri kicked Ebonheart out.

PS: I sorry if this is for just xbox one. But I must add. That I was completely curious and love this post. Otherwise I wouldn't write about hiw it is over here on PS4 EU side.

Again really good post and thank you

RebornV3x

Playing pvp on Xbox NA now that the The Division came out PVP has been dead.

socks567

Serjustwhy I love scourge! I'm also ps4 EU and the reason my group (25+) went onto scourge was because reds zerged blackwater blade. We fought hard but then blues pushed reds and blues took over the map! We got tired of constantly dieing so we moved to scourge
We do sometimes go back to non vet but enemy alliances keep on zerging

Bosov

Prime example of the current blue mentalitity tonight. We had a total of about 15 people running around naked, not sieging and just punching npc and blues to death for like 5 to 10 minutes at faragyl while blues owned it.. then the blue zerg (40+ people) came and steamrolled us.... the couldnt even kill naked players as a small group because they kept dieing and had to call in the zerg who went in with full BoL spam, proxies, meteors and even barriers

I still really enjoy the pvp in this game but things like that just ruin it...

llllADBllll

The Kings Legion are the reason Azura is so laggy. Thornblade EP call on the Azura group to help as well as AD doing the same. Not to mention those who have alts on all factions who jump to the winning side whenever they like. I still think PVP would be better if you could only be one faction and changing one changes them all. This of course would only apply to PVP not PVE but yeah I agree PVP is dying fast.

Qwazzy

Came on for a while today, same 40 man blue zerg arriving minutes after a resource is taken.

Pazz_

Bosov wrote: »

Eldruf wrote: »

Yup I play EP on this server and am close to all the top EP PVP groups none of which actually bother with PVP at the minute due to the DC zerg and the 500 member 'The Kings Legion' guild which literally changes it's message of the day to a location at up rolls the entire DC population. Azuras is broken you'd be stupid to try and play it competitively when it's capped the lags literally unplayable.

Hoping that next patch channels out the populations into different campaigns.

I have to correct you there, Kings Legion has 500 men but when their zerg gets whiped they go to Kings Legion 2 which also has 500 members and they get them in pvp.

I used to be in Kings Legion before i switched to AD and sometimes i even had the crown of the zerg. I was instructed by the guildleader to go through the whole roster and invite everyone to the pvp group when it wasnt totally filled up. Having two 24 groups active wasnt really special either.

After a while i got extremly bored by crit rushing everyone just to get a hit. My former zerg friends still seem to enjoy it though.

Exactly why I hated being passed crown & looked to give it up at the earliest opportunity!

People wonder why there's starting to become more & more ex Kings Legion moving to other factions? There are no tactics or skill involved in their "attacks"

As you put it "pull as many people into PvP with you and run." they just lag the server out. I've refused to jump into PvP because of this. Putting a couple of builds together in the mean time but even that's getting boring now. I miss the old PvP we had at launch

RobboEU

Qwazz wrote: »

Came on for a while today, same 40 man blue zerg arriving minutes after a resource is taken.

yup whole map blue at 2:00pm GMT lollll

Lil_Willie

We all went to the Division campaign.

Cathexis

Why would you play this game anymore when the ability to use skill in combat to survive and defeat opponents has been systematically dismantled.

Pazz_

Cathexis wrote: »

Why would you play this game anymore when the ability to use skill in combat to survive and defeat opponents has been systematically dismantled.

Because I still like the game as a whole and the people it has enabled me to meet.

I changed factions as I like the challenge of actually working for an objective instead of hording as many people as possible together

OGNZ3

I felt the pvp dead for the last 2 campains because of the DC zerging but it seems to be more balanced this new one ! Maybe some blues stoped to zerg all day long and went to The Division

MightyBantam34

Everyone complaining about the blue zergs yet I remember when the game came out and for months and months the yellows and reds zerged DC always finished last in the campaign but we kept on fighting no moaning then the blues got organised and for 5 campaigns have won the campaign .
Yes zergs make the server laggy but it was the other factions that showed us the way to win. But isn't that what the game was advertised to do big scale fights?Anyway rant over

Brrrofski

While I am DC, I'm not in King's legion so can't speak for what they do.

But come on, all three alliances zerg. You're either blind or incredibly delerious if you think otherwise. Just because maybe you don't follow the zerg doesn't mean your alliance doesn't do it.

Anyway, AD were winning last I checked. Maybe EP should stop zerging in the arena district and help their brethren above ground

OGNZ3

I'm DC too guys, but i hate so much this way to play. Running on everyone without any skill lol ...

But as you said well @MightyBantam34 "Yes zergs make the server laggy but it was the other factions that showed us the way to win. But isn't that what the game was advertised to do big scale fights?"

Brrrofski wrote: »

Anyway, AD were winning last I checked. Maybe EP should stop zerging in the arena district and help their brethren above ground

Yeah exactly haha, and the funniest thing is the EP guys which are complaining about "full blue map since 5 months" ... EP guys, you have to play in Cyrodiil for changing that :'D

GrigorijMalahevich

I'm logging in to Azura Star on my main sorc only to pew pew pew some IC duels, Cyrodiil is just sad with teh lag and teh zerg.

It does feel that PvP population on Xbox EU suffered a massive hit. Before The Division I had to wait for 20-40 people... Before Fallout 4 it was up to 60 people. Fallout is just single player, so people do the campaign and move on, but The Division is a bit different due to its multiplayer. Hope people come back, as ESO is only proper MMORPG on Xbox.

P.S. Blackwater Blade is super fun, even though it is not very populated, small scale PvP is really fun there. No meteor, no proxy det. Really reminds me of some proper PvP in Ultima Online somewhat 18 years ago. The only let down of Blackwater Blade - horse simulator, as your character is non-vet, you struggle with horse speed/stam upgrades and it is really annoying.

Bosov

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Everyone complaining about the blue zergs yet I remember when the game came out and for months and months the yellows and reds zerged DC always finished last in the campaign but we kept on fighting no moaning then the blues got organised and for 5 campaigns have won the campaign .
Yes zergs make the server laggy but it was the other factions that showed us the way to win. But isn't that what the game was advertised to do big scale fights?Anyway rant over

Getting organised? Organisation would require tactics not change the message of the day and outnumber everyone and take keeps. Last night around 3 am kings legion was at bloodmayne with atleast a full group and took it against 5 defenders even while they owned all the scrolls because of the nightcap from the night before.

It has nothing to do with tactics or skill, its numbers. If by miracle you find one of the kings legion zerg by themself they get smashed... even my mag dk destroys them (unless sorc or healer but thats because mag dk is ***). Even the mighty kings legion zergleader looks like a noob and drops in a few seconds when he is on his own in a 1v1.

Almost forgot, last weekend AD had a full organised zerg online. They ambushed the dc zerg multiple times and destroyed them, took the map and all blues left because they didnt own anything. Blues then nightcapped their way back in after the AD zerg left and all blues were back in the campaign after that.

Blues want to win the campaign, they just dont want to fight for it... easy nightcaps and only fighting when they outnumber everyone. It might win you the campaign but how much fun could it really be? 30 days gap closing to get hits and be rewarded with some extra gold, 5 more repair kits and an extra piece of the sentry set?

Bosov

I was part of the blues when the game launched. Yellows and reds didnt zerg as bad as blues do right now. Our problem was mainly that our 24+ men zerg couldnt kill Dalglish or Golf.

You might blame that on them being pc transfer but the avarage blue zerger is just extremely bad. Maybe i shouldnt be so harsh on them... without a zerg this game would be a horse riding simulator for them

MightyBantam34

Again your argument is pointless again bosov , yellows and reds have done the same night capping before and doesn't the server allow equal numbers on all 3 factions? And ambushing a Zerg with another Zerg doesn't mean your your more skilled
Ohh and how would you know the message of the day unless your part of the legion . I'm in that guild but haven't zerged in a while but last time I checked message was donate money join guild chat 1 for pvp then a funny comment.
Ive fought with you and against you bosov and fount you to be a reasonable player but this post has just turned into a anti DC and kings legion post

Bosov

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Again your argument is pointless again bosov , yellows and reds have done the same night capping before and doesn't the server allow equal numbers on all 3 factions? And ambushing a Zerg with another Zerg doesn't mean your your more skilled
Ohh and how would you know the message of the day unless your part of the legion . I'm in that guild but haven't zerged in a while but last time I checked message was donate money join guild chat 1 for pvp then a funny comment.
Ive fought with you and against you bosov and fount you to be a reasonable player but this post has just turned into a anti DC and kings legion post

I like this game, i really like the pvp but when i try to have fun i always get outnumber and have atleast 10 people jump me. When those 10 people leave me and i can see the names of the 5 people who are still teabagging me i always see people from kings legion.

They ruin the fun i can have in pvp, ofcourse they start to annoy me at a certain moment. Not because of them killing me or teabaginng me but because i cant have fun in pvp if 10+ all gapclose in on me and dont give me a chance to defend myself.

Donate money to the guildbank? Baz still taking all off the money out of the bank for himself?

Pazz_

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

this post has just turned into a anti DC and kings legion post

It's not exactly a coincidence...

RobboEU

The fact people are changing from factions from AD or EP to DC is mind boggling, you're literally killing the game/ server yourselves. 'The Kings Legion' is a joke literally a laughing stock all players running in it or with it are clueless, fact or you wouldn't be running around with 40+ men side by side.

It's just crazy to think that you're literally killing the game you enjoy, by running around one hitting people with 40+ of you and I genuinely feel sorry for you if you're reading this and you find that remotely enjoyable.

The good players in this server couldn't care less about the score because the way in which Cyrodiil works in massively flawed and hugely determined by numbers. We just want good small scale fights, win or lose.

Pazz_

Eldruf wrote: »

The fact people are changing from factions from AD or EP to DC is mind boggling, you're literally killing the game/ server yourselves. 'The Kings Legion' is a joke literally a laughing stock all players running in it or with it are clueless, fact or you wouldn't be running around with 40+ men side by side.

It's just crazy to think that you're literally killing the game you enjoy, by running around one hitting people with 40+ of you and I genuinely feel sorry for you if you're reading this and you find that remotely enjoyable.

The good players in this server couldn't care less about the score because the way in which Cyrodiil works in massively flawed and hugely determined by numbers. We just want good small scale fights, win or lose.

Exactly one of the main reasons I left DC.

I've actually said this to some one recently, I couldn't care less about what faction I'm on or if we/I win or lose. I enjoy playing the game and enjoy the combat side of it....Until DC arrive.

I'm either in another campaign or in a small group away from the blue zerg as it's a complete joke.

MightyBantam34

Bosov wrote: »

MightyBantam34 wrote: »

Again your argument is pointless again bosov , yellows and reds have done the same night capping before and doesn't the server allow equal numbers on all 3 factions? And ambushing a Zerg with another Zerg doesn't mean your your more skilled
Ohh and how would you know the message of the day unless your part of the legion . I'm in that guild but haven't zerged in a while but last time I checked message was donate money join guild chat 1 for pvp then a funny comment.
Ive fought with you and against you bosov and fount you to be a reasonable player but this post has just turned into a anti DC and kings legion post

I like this game, i really like the pvp but when i try to have fun i always get outnumber and have atleast 10 people jump me. When those 10 people leave me and i can see the names of the 5 people who are still teabagging me i always see people from kings legion.

They ruin the fun i can have in pvp, ofcourse they start to annoy me at a certain moment. Not because of them killing me or teabaginng me but because i cant have fun in pvp if 10+ all gapclose in on me and dont give me a chance to defend myself.

Donate money to the guildbank? Baz still taking all off the money out of the bank for himself?

No idea lol but it's same for every player small group no matter what faction your from the problem doesn't lie with the player obviously some are not as skilled as others or maybe some love the zerging but that's what it was designed to do but not working as intended. Everyone has the right to play the game how they want to. Even the more skilled players run in small groups and jump the little man on his own big fish always goes for the smaller one lol but the lag will be there because there is always gonna be a faction that zergs if not all 3 but until we get another option to pvp this is the only place to be.
Me personally I like both aspects I like the small scale and the large epic fights . Even dueling in the arena district (when I'm not get ganked there) feel like we have got off topic lol

OGNZ3

Eldruf wrote: »

The good players in this server couldn't care less about the score because the way in which Cyrodiil works in massively flawed and hugely determined by numbers. We just want good small scale fights, win or lose.

Totally agree that. But trust me, it's really hard to find good smallscale, even for a DC : if the EP/AD are not like 24v3 (yes, yes, yes, DC are not the only one to zerg lol), its the DC zerg which focus an enemy when see him, like 20v1....
I was like "i enjoy Cyrodiil" but now i want bg and arena because of those ***

MightyBantam34

Oh and why get upset over teabaging it honestly makes me laugh . Laugh it off