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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Most OP skill in the game? [PvP]

  • Ender1310
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    Crystal Blast. Everyone hates it. But I use it to great effect. Tossing my non-empowered ling range aoe wrecking blow down field. Pure love

    Thank you for being honest. Its a great skill and sorcs rock!
  • Ender1310
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    LOL too much trolls or Wrecking Blow spammers here, because is pretty obvious, Wrecking Blow is the MOST OP skill of the game by far

    Surprise Attack, Crystal Fragments, Focus Aim...even Overload, are good skills but not are OP....but a 2h skill with the same speed of a Steel Tornado with 3 times more damage per hit? stupidly OP

    Wrecking blow sucks I agree. But at least its not an aoe. I think thats the difference with that and proxy.
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  • xXNesTXx
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    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    LOL too much trolls or Wrecking Blow spammers here, because is pretty obvious, Wrecking Blow is the MOST OP skill of the game by far

    Surprise Attack, Crystal Fragments, Focus Aim...even Overload, are good skills but not are OP....but a 2h skill with the same speed of a Steel Tornado with 3 times more damage per hit? stupidly OP

    WB is so easy to counter. it's good, but certainly not the most OP skill in the game. Good players can avoid it 100%.

    Surprise attack is easily the most OP skill in the game, especially when using the same comparison as Wrecking Blow.

    Surprise attack: as much damage as WB or harder, nerfs target armor with major debuff, BUFFS your armour with major buff, instant cast.

    LOL more damage SA than WB??? I never get hit more than 9k of damage with SA....instead, 9k is the lower damage than I received with WB....

    Maybe you forget the knockback and the HUGE damage buff of WB for the next attack

    And good players cand avoid Surprise Attack too.... a skill with a 5m of range.....
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  • LegendaryChef
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  • Durham
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    ???????
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  • revonine
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    Shade.

    Shade is only really as good as the person using it.
  • Durham
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    WB is not instant cast? Btw... Everything you listed does more damage atm....lol
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  • Durham
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    All I'm saying something is,wrong my stamina dps in PVP has been drastically cut .. Not sure if it's a bug with physical resistance but ... I'm doing half of what I did last night, not 25% less . meanwhile my Magicka sorc is doing the same damage....
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  • TheRubiksCube
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    I know I use this skill a lot on my stam sorc, but let's be honest here.

    Wrecking blow

    But in my opinion, it would be balanced if it didn't have the knockback or empower.
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  • Horker
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  • Durham
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    I know I use this skill a lot on my stam sorc, but let's be honest here.

    Wrecking blow

    But in my opinion, it would be balanced if it didn't have the knockback or empower.

    I agree with empower needed to be removed..... But a 1.2 sec cast time ... knock back stun with 4k damage is horrid...atm in pvp...again on the 6th I would easily get 10k hit..... by no means is it overpowered actually it's broke... with out this ability there is no stam dragon knight...
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  • Xael
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    SupaSane wrote: »
    Just wondering what you guys thought the most OP skill was in this game, if there is one.

    I don't even need to comb through this thread to know it turned into a NB/Wrecking/Sorc blame game. I almost wonder if the people that start these threads have the intention of indirectly manipulating people into whining about Nightblades, Wrecking Blow, and Sorcs. After all, these are the 3 things that most casual players use as their scapegoat for their failures in PvP.

    Edited by Xael on 8 March 2016 14:29
    I got killed in pvp, nerf everything...
  • Sureshawt
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    Well one thing is clear based on this thread as well as others and that is nothing is OP and everything is pretty well balanced. This is further validated by the fact that no one build or skill is dominating the meta as just about every skill is being used on a regular basis.

    Balance has been achieved and any OP/imbalance is simply a players biased perception.
  • avelopolcakb14a_ESO
    Sureshawt wrote: »
    Well one thing is clear based on this thread as well as others and that is nothing is OP and everything is pretty well balanced. This is further validated by the fact that no one build or skill is dominating the meta as just about every skill is being used on a regular basis.

    Balance has been achieved and any OP/imbalance is simply a players biased perception.

    You forgot to say "except for templars" which were left out of the entire discussion
  • Sureshawt
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    Sureshawt wrote: »
    Well one thing is clear based on this thread as well as others and that is nothing is OP and everything is pretty well balanced. This is further validated by the fact that no one build or skill is dominating the meta as just about every skill is being used on a regular basis.

    Balance has been achieved and any OP/imbalance is simply a players biased perception.

    You forgot to say "except for templars" which were left out of the entire discussion

    Oh I don't know about you but I'm seeing lots of Templar skills being used to great effect in PvP. In fact, I can't think of one that I didn't see during just last nights session. I even got lit by vampires bane which I hadn't seen in ages.


    Edited by Sureshawt on 8 March 2016 20:56
  • Yoyuyi999
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    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Reverb spam.

    Whaaaa? Spamming that is not a skill? I thought you had to be skilled to do it. :*

    except it's fixed now. good try though.
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  • Lore_lai
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    Yoyuyi999 wrote: »
    Lore_lai wrote: »
    Reverb spam.

    Whaaaa? Spamming that is not a skill? I thought you had to be skilled to do it. :*

    except it's fixed now. good try though.

    Wasn't when I posted that. Good try though. (live patch-wise) :kissing_heart:
    Looking forward to seeing the fix - I'm sure it won't be long until I run into someone spamming that while chasing me down with 10+ others. Or maybe now that it's fixed the spam will stop. :open_mouth:
  • Jaybe_Mawfaka
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    Meteor on stairs.
  • RebornV3x
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    Won't say most op but most annoying is a Wreaking Blow spammer every bad kid in PVP uses it.
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  • rfennell_ESO
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    The new OP ability is radiant destruction.

    By far... it's all you are going to see until ZOS comes to their senses.
  • Durham
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    Tired of hearing wreaking blow this thing is seriously down in damage .. mine is hitting 2k less ... I'm lucky if I get mine to hit for 8k... most are around the 4 to 5k mark... takes 1.2 seconds to cast easily blocked or avoided...when the lag starts it's useless ....yes it has empower and CC but 5k damage is low for a slow ability....(btw i run over 3200 wp and 32000 stam)On a stamina DK what else do we use ? Sorc frags are hitting much harder atm... Detination is also hitting me for 10k on a single target.... so much more atm that is stronger the WB...
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  • leepalmer95
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    Durham wrote: »
    Tired of hearing wreaking blow this thing is seriously down in damage .. mine is hitting 2k less ... I'm lucky if I get mine to hit for 8k... most are around the 4 to 5k mark... takes 1.2 seconds to cast easily blocked or avoided...when the lag starts it's useless ....yes it has empower and CC but 5k damage is low for a slow ability....(btw i run over 3200 wp and 32000 stam)On a stamina DK what else do we use ? Sorc frags are hitting much harder atm... Detination is also hitting me for 10k on a single target.... so much more atm that is stronger the WB...

    If det is hitting you for 10k single target your going wrong somewhere.
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  • Durham
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    Durham wrote: »
    Tired of hearing wreaking blow this thing is seriously down in damage .. mine is hitting 2k less ... I'm lucky if I get mine to hit for 8k... most are around the 4 to 5k mark... takes 1.2 seconds to cast easily blocked or avoided...when the lag starts it's useless ....yes it has empower and CC but 5k damage is low for a slow ability....(btw i run over 3200 wp and 32000 stam)On a stamina DK what else do we use ? Sorc frags are hitting much harder atm... Detination is also hitting me for 10k on a single target.... so much more atm that is stronger the WB...

    If det is hitting you for 10k single target your going wrong somewhere.

    Yea I'm stamina in medium... lol
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  • Durham
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    There is a reason that all u see out there are tons of red circles... Solo migicka NB are using it lol
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  • contact.opiumb16_ESO
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    acw37162 wrote: »
    Ambush or Mass Hysteria

    Ambush/Lotus Fan

    It's a gap closer, so it has the built in line of sight check snare, Lotus Fan is with TG the only gap closer that is currently undodgeable. Ambush empowers Lotus Fan snares and dot. They both have no minimum distance. Because it is essientally a teleport it draws no path data and ignores elevation changes.

    Mass Hysteria

    An AOE hard stun through block. Templar had something similar but it was considered to over powered apperantly it is not to much for a NB. Offense or defense this is the best utility skill in the game made more important by the recent changes to Magelight. Now a NB will just have to fear you before they cloak and run away to make minimum safe distance of magelight

    Edit;

    Soul Harvest

    How dare I forget; single target ultimate that cost 50 ultimate (that's right 50) and allows you to do 20 % more damage to that target for 6 seconds. This stacks with every buff in the game so 20 % plus fracture plus major sorcery/brutality plus minor berserk plus empower plus major berserk. All buffs NB's have access to in their own skill trees buffing themselves. Oh, and with TG NB's will get 20 ultimate from drinking a potion so it will take them less then 6 seconds to earn another 50 ultimate.

    Damn and how could I forget while slotted kills generate ten ultimate.

    If this skill cost 150 ultimate it would still be worth it.

    NB's are just ridiculous.


    Honorable Mention to steel tornado

    Wow! You sure know how to sell a class. I'm switching to NB now.

    Thanks, pal ;)

    That's what i did months ago. Before i had a V16 sorcerer (boring playstyle for me since i play it with tempalr since beta), and templar (boring since it's a broken class since 1.6). Then i discvered NB playstyle : easy to understand, good escape, huge dps, good survivabilty, very good passives for sustain etc etc etc... NB is so fun to play !
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