Cumulative Death Recap Damage Breakdown

smacx250 · February 2016

In case some might find it interesting, I have accumulated the data from about 326 death recaps since Sept, and made some graphs breaking down the damage. I’m a pretty crappy PvP’er, in this case solo on a v16 Sorc. Spell resist ~17K, physical resist ~7.7K, spell shield 4.3%, resistant 2.6%, hardy 4.8%, elemental defender 7.2%, think skinned 2.1%. Almost always had RML up. Rarely block as I don’t have much stam, and hardened is “supposed” to be up all the time!

Some notes: For the “vs Skill” chart, the error bars on the “Average” values show the min/max range that was seen, and the chart only shows the skills for the top 90% of the cumulative damage (about 46 of 128 total skills reported). For the “vs Skill Line” chart, “Attack” means heavy and light attacks - no way to further classify them from the API data, and “Other” is for stuff like passives that report damage. For the “vs Source Type chart, I don’t know the source type for “Attack” (weapon damage) and “Other” (passives, etc.), and skills that do multiple types are lumped into one (e.g., physical and fire is reported as physical). For the “vs Damage Type” chart, I don’t know the type for weapon attacks, and wasn’t sure about how to classify siege damage.

Update: Here is a class breakdown of the killers. Note that the single largest majority are killers that didn't use any class skills in any of the recaps, and hence couldn't have a class identified. The two pie charts show the class contribution to total kills, and then the class breakdown of unique killers (killers can have multiple kills). The two bar charts show the average damage that each class did per death (total class damage/total number of class kills), and the average number of killers per death that a class contributed to.

Some general statistics:

Average number of killers: 2.4
Average killer rank: 17.2
1/3 of the recap durations were less than 2 seconds, 1/2 of them less than 3.5 seconds, and 2/3 of them less than 4.5 seconds
Average damage per recap: 21.3K (health with food is ~22K)

Update:

A poll was posted about Stamina vs Magicka, and I thought it might be interesting to look at the data from the perspective of Magicka and Stamina based killers. What was done was to look at each unique killer, and classify it as either Magicka or Stamina based on the highest damage source, and compare the relative numbers of each type. Then look at the kills and damage done by each class of killer corrected for the total number of that type of killer, in order to try and look at the effectiveness of each type regardless of their population size. (also updated the OP)

Wreuntzylla · February 2016

While interesting, it would have been much more useful if you used a damage log. You really want to see all the damage leading up to your death and not the last few things that did you in.

Unless you die almost instantly and the recap shows everything.

smacx250 · February 2016

Both would probably be interesting to look at. However, at least for me (and possibly even more so for others), only a small amount of the total damage in taken in Cyrodill is usually a cause of death - and that is what I was most interested in. Death recap certainly has its issues, but it was too easy to use vs rolling my own.

Xeven · February 2016

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Galalin · February 2016

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

smacx250 · February 2016

Galalin wrote: »

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

On the "vs skill" chart, that is the average damage bar for the skills. Doesn't make sense for any of the other "total" charts, as it is an overall "what caused death", and not a per-skill measure. Also note that this is only for the skills that appeared in the death recap, and that death recap rolls up some kinds of damage over time into a single entry (and does some other odd things) - so be aware of that when looking at the values.

Gilvoth · February 2016

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

wrong, many many governments try to use the same standard as for thier aurguments as you have just done. you cannot simply take the vote or evidance of just 1 person or a small group of people and use it as Fact for your aurguments. you have to do an indepth study of ALL people involved and ALL people must vote on or atleast have a part in the study being conducted.
to quote him, he said he was a "crapy pvper" and this is the analysis of only ONE person in cryodiil, not the entire study of all people in all campaigns and every single death recap study!

below i made a copy paste of the quote in question, simply to prove it was indeed a quote.
QUOTE:

smacx250 wrote: »

I’m a pretty crappy PvP’er,

smacx250 · February 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

below i made a copy paste of the quote in question, simply to prove it was indeed a quote.
QUOTE:

smacx250 wrote: »

I’m a pretty crappy PvP’er,

Yup! The data here is presented for this one character - any resemblance to other characters, living or dead, is purely coincidental!

Gilvoth · February 2016

.
thank you for the honesty,
i would like to give mine but i do not have that option.
i will admit that i see 90% of all my death recaps happen from sorcerer damage and magicka nightblade skills.

Gilvoth · February 2016

i must admit also that i do enjoy this information you have done here and wish we could have this implimented into the entire cryodiil population and used as a study to help balance classes.
well done on your work and study, you should be commended for the work.

smacx250 · February 2016

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

i must admit also that i do enjoy this information you have done here and wish we could have this implimented into the entire cryodiil population and used as a study to help balance classes.
well done on your work and study, you should be commended for the work.

Thanks for that. It is a pretty small add-on and external processing program. I'd be happy to post it for anyone that would like to either try it for themselves, or make something useful from it for others - but I have no desire to be an add-on developer.

MormondPayne_EP · February 2016

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

This is exactly what he is saying, it is a picture of the current meta... are these skills doing more damage because more people use them or are more people using them because they do more damage?

They go hand in hand and illustrate the bias there currently is towards stamina builds and the absence of a suitable CP to mitigate physical damage is also contribution ot this...

All in all... an accurate representation of the current meta, EXACTLY what the guy was saying.

acw37162 · February 2016

The very first thing I noticed is you have a very large sample size of Nightblades. For the life of me I can't figure out why that is.

smacx250 · February 2016

acw37162 wrote: »

The very first thing I noticed is you have a very large sample size of Nightblades. For the life of me I can't figure out why that is.

This is death recap, so classes that don't kill me much won't be represented. Maybe with the glowing ball going around me I'm just a nightblade magnet!

smacx250 · February 2016

Source is here for anyone that is interested:

https://github.com/smacx250/eso/tree/master/RecordDeathRecap

Xeven · February 2016

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

You're looking at average damage. Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball. He died maybe once or twice with shooting star on his recap and you're looking at the average of that. The overwhelming TOTAL DAMAGE is ambush surprise attack and wrecking blow.

That IS the meta. You stamina guys like to live blind in your echo chaimbers, and cry about magicka. Its hilarious how one sided you guys are.

Oh and you should probably learn how to interpret numbers on a graph. Thats like 3rd grade sh*t bro.

phillyboy7897 · February 2016

Awesome man thx 4 posting this. I pretty much have had to gear and spec favoring highly for VS stamblades, cool to see some stats backing up why my build ended up as it is.

Next patch we will all need to gear and build against mag sorc most likely. Good thing that is a lot easier to do, cept if your only spam dps is bugged vs shields in 2 different ways (mag templar)

Rylana · February 2016

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball.

Funny, I cant remember what the killing blow was, but it was either my frag or SS that killed you outside front door alessia on haderus yesterday. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Also, +1 for calling Gal a Cheeseball, thats my new nickname for him. Scrub Cheeseball.

Xeven · February 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball.

Funny, I cant remember what the killing blow was, but it was either my frag or SS that killed you outside front door alessia on haderus yesterday. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Also, +1 for calling Gal a Cheeseball, thats my new nickname for him. Scrub Cheeseball.

Lol Rylana you can't kill me you little zergling. Nice try though.

Galalin · February 2016

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

2687196 wrote:

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

You're looking at average damage. Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball. He died maybe once or twice with shooting star on his recap and you're looking at the average of that. The overwhelming TOTAL DAMAGE is ambush surprise attack and wrecking blow.

That IS the meta. You stamina guys like to live blind in your echo chaimbers, and cry about magicka. Its hilarious how one sided you guys are.

Oh and you should probably learn how to interpret numbers on a graph. Thats like 3rd grade sh*t bro.

The stam meta will change in the next patch... if your telling me nobody uses meteor idk even know what to say.

Of freaking course he is taking more danage from stam there are alot more stam builds atm. No different to magicka in pre 1.6. And it will swing back in the next patch.

As for your cheesball comment. Have you looked in the freaking mirror. Your a decent player playing the absolute meta of almost every sorc. Hardly one to cry about the meta.

And i aint your bro kid. Your an ass in game and on the forums.... nothing but *** talk from a punk ass kid fresh out of diapers. I may be a scrub *** player but i have wrecked your garbage ass countless times. But im sure you will deny that too because you seem to think your some great thing that your not. There a ton of sorcs out there that put you to shame so climb down off that little wooden rocking horse kid.

DK SCRUB OUT

AtellusCalidus · February 2016

What stod or the most for me was that approx. 18k Dragon Leap maximum on the first chart. How is that even possible?

Xeven · February 2016

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

2687196 wrote:

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

You're looking at average damage. Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball. He died maybe once or twice with shooting star on his recap and you're looking at the average of that. The overwhelming TOTAL DAMAGE is ambush surprise attack and wrecking blow.

That IS the meta. You stamina guys like to live blind in your echo chaimbers, and cry about magicka. Its hilarious how one sided you guys are.

Oh and you should probably learn how to interpret numbers on a graph. Thats like 3rd grade sh*t bro.

The stam meta will change in the next patch... if your telling me nobody uses meteor idk even know what to say.

Of freaking course he is taking more danage from stam there are alot more stam builds atm. No different to magicka in pre 1.6. And it will swing back in the next patch.

As for your cheesball comment. Have you looked in the freaking mirror. Your a decent player playing the absolute meta of almost every sorc. Hardly one to cry about the meta.

And i aint your bro kid. Your an ass in game and on the forums.... nothing but *** talk from a punk ass kid fresh out of diapers. I may be a scrub *** player bit i have wrecked your garbage ass countless times.

DK SCRUB OUT

And I have also wrecked you countless times. You mad?

Shooting star is the MORPH that almost nobody uses. Look at the total damage of it. It's less than 50k out of 450+ deaths. Look at the total damage of Surprise Attack, Ambush, and Wrecking Blow.

Calm down sweetheart. It's ok, you're still learning to read graphs. It's cool.

smacx250 · February 2016

AtellusCalidus wrote: »

What stod or the most for me was that approx. 18k Dragon Leap maximum on the first chart. How is that even possible?

Don't know - ask "Richard Nibbler"? The next closest was for 15K. It is worth nothing that sometimes death recap reports stuff that doesn't seem right.

Also, I noticed a bug as I was working on some other stuff - it is only 325 deaths by players, not 480 (that value included PvE deaths). Sorry!

Galalin · February 2016

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

2687196 wrote:

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

You're looking at average damage. Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball. He died maybe once or twice with shooting star on his recap and you're looking at the average of that. The overwhelming TOTAL DAMAGE is ambush surprise attack and wrecking blow.

That IS the meta. You stamina guys like to live blind in your echo chaimbers, and cry about magicka. Its hilarious how one sided you guys are.

Oh and you should probably learn how to interpret numbers on a graph. Thats like 3rd grade sh*t bro.

The stam meta will change in the next patch... if your telling me nobody uses meteor idk even know what to say.

Of freaking course he is taking more danage from stam there are alot more stam builds atm. No different to magicka in pre 1.6. And it will swing back in the next patch.

As for your cheesball comment. Have you looked in the freaking mirror. Your a decent player playing the absolute meta of almost every sorc. Hardly one to cry about the meta.

And i aint your bro kid. Your an ass in game and on the forums.... nothing but *** talk from a punk ass kid fresh out of diapers. I may be a scrub *** player bit i have wrecked your garbage ass countless times.

DK SCRUB OUT

And I have also wrecked you countless times. You mad?

Shooting star is the MORPH that almost nobody uses. Look at the total damage of it. It's less than 50k out of 450+ deaths. Look at the total damage of Surprise Attack, Ambush, and Wrecking Blow.

Calm down sweetheart. It's ok, you're still learning to read graphs. It's cool.

Yeah usually from the back when I have multiple ppl on me or the odd time you catch me on siege

I have been awake far to much this week to comprehend a lot of things... obviously that includes graphs.

DK SCRUB OUT

Rylana · February 2016

Xeven wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Galalin wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

LMAO this is fantastic.

Top 5 highest damage abilities:

1) Surprise Attack
2) Ambush
3) Wrecking Blow
4) Focused aim
5) Executioner

It's a 100% accurate picture of the current Cyrodiil meta.

Are you blind? I can see right through your bias sorc ways. Look again.

1)TAKE FLIGHT- a physical damage Ult

2)SHOOTING STAR- a magicka damage Ult

3)INEVITABLE DET- a magicka skill

4)SOUL HARVEST- magicka damage Ult

5)WRECKING BLOW- physical damage skill

I would assume the reason the physical and stam damage would be higher would be do to more stam based players at the moment which will change next patch.

I would like to see a chart that counted an equal amount of skill uses for each skill and the total damage calculated then.

As you can see its fairly even damage wise for the top 4 and 3 out of those 4 are magicka.

Very nice post OP nice of you to put the time into this

DK SCRUB OUT

Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball.

Funny, I cant remember what the killing blow was, but it was either my frag or SS that killed you outside front door alessia on haderus yesterday. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Also, +1 for calling Gal a Cheeseball, thats my new nickname for him. Scrub Cheeseball.

Lol Rylana you can't kill me you little zergling. Nice try though.

Oh please, you die just like everyone else does. Shall I post KC stats? cmon.

Cathexis · February 2016

Edited until I see the results of how many damage sources.

Zimm · February 2016

I think 90% of my deaths are from like 5 Spambush/Proxy Dets at the same time. I had 8 people chase me (JUST me) almost all the way to the bridge from Sej yesterday and it wasn't a straight shot since I was trying to maintain LoS. In the end I got a barrage of Ambush/Steel Tornado and Lotus Fan/Proxy Dets, just a normal day in ESO.

smacx250 · February 2016

Rylana wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball.

Funny, I cant remember what the killing blow was, but it was either my frag or SS that killed you outside front door alessia on haderus yesterday. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Also, +1 for calling Gal a Cheeseball, thats my new nickname for him. Scrub Cheeseball.

I find it funny that the "max" SS in that chart is actually yours! Now why did I let the DoT of SS do 16K and kill me??? I'm sure there was a good reason - oh yeah, I was perma-CC'd, out of stam, and afk!!! Either that or I'm a crappy PvP'er...

smacx250 · February 2016

It may be worth reiterating that this data is from death recaps of one character - it shows what killed that one character. I'm not personally inclined to think that the data is sufficient to draw good general conclusions, and am a little puzzled about "I win" statements being derived from it - except maybe from those that know they contributed to all that damage!

I'm planning to pull out a bit more data that might be interesting - such as the average number of killers per recap, the average elapsed time per recap, the average DPS per recap, total number of different killers, killer class composition, etc.

Cathexis · February 2016

smacx250 wrote: »

It may be worth reiterating that this data is from death recaps of one character - it shows what killed that one character. I'm not personally inclined to think that the data is sufficient to draw good general conclusions, and am a little puzzled about "I win" statements being derived from it - except maybe from those that know they contributed to all that damage!

I'm planning to pull out a bit more data that might be interesting - such as the average number of killers per recap, the average elapsed time per recap, the average DPS per recap, total number of different killers, killer class composition, etc.

Hey man its your thread, and I support your perspective - in no way am I saying that my thoughts on the issue are your perspective. I'm just saying if it looks like crap, and smells like crap, there's a good chance it's crap. To me, that data is reflective of what it is like to walk around in open pvp because that is what you sampled.

I'm not saying data is perfect or exact. It never is, but of you conduct a sample of something with a high degree of specificity - it still contains a reasonable degree of merit to draw observations from it. I mean, that's how data analysis works.

Also I was referring to a specific post (see the initial text in the post) which I made which took a lot of flack for acknowledging the idea that pvp is potentially overrepresented by nightblades. That said I have pulled my "I win" post until I see numbers on killer's class type. If you look at deaths by skill category, nightblades have a significantly higher rate than other skill lines and that may be very telling.

Rylana · February 2016

smacx250 wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Nobody uses shooting star you cheese ball.

Funny, I cant remember what the killing blow was, but it was either my frag or SS that killed you outside front door alessia on haderus yesterday. Maybe you could enlighten me?

Also, +1 for calling Gal a Cheeseball, thats my new nickname for him. Scrub Cheeseball.

I find it funny that the "max" SS in that chart is actually yours! Now why did I let the DoT of SS do 16K and kill me??? I'm sure there was a good reason - oh yeah, I was perma-CC'd, out of stam, and afk!!! Either that or I'm a crappy PvP'er...

SS is an amazing finisher if you know your opponent cant reflect it. Also useful as hell for setting up a nice zone of hurt on the ground on the edge of a keep postern. tick tick tick tick, gimme dat ulti, yay new SS ready.

Sorry i hit you so hard

For great science!