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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

question about the VET PVP (low level dudes, have no chance)

  • Leandor
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    I did 10k WBs in BWB with my stam dk. Granted, 501 CP have a big part in that, but you can gear even at non-vet in a way that gets you into those regions, thanks to battle scaling, even if you are only sporting around 300.
    Edited by Leandor on 11 February 2016 19:21
  • Icaruzs
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    Cody wrote: »
    i can craft you 5/5 julianos set if you wish, i dont know if you are EU or NA though.

    I would love. I'm on NA, if you could make a julianos set for my v5 sorcerer i would be so happy =D

    Can you send thought mail for me? my tag is: icaruzudo
    Edited by Icaruzs on 12 February 2016 19:00
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Icaruzs wrote: »
    hi guys i'm a v4 makicka sorcerer, and i started last wekend in azura star, unlike black water i felt a huge diference. In black water blade i can own a 45+ character with my lv 20 character, but in vet pvp i can't even scratch v16 people with my v4 dude, and also i get one shoted my so many tings (even using all my bubbles, like harness magicka,hardened ward,healing ward and boundless storm).

    The character window say that i'm scaled V15, but doesn't seems like it

    Why low lv characters are almost useless in vet pvp? (we are only usefull using siege) why it doesn't follow the pattern of non vet pvp?

    (Also the lag 10x worst in vet pvp x_x)

    The way battle leveling currently works, V4 can be tougher than V16. Not sure which particular armor sets they are using, but I have encountered some V4 players that were beasts. Might require upgrading V4 sets to gold.

    They're just good players that thanks to battle levelling aren't held back by Stats.

    Vet16s will always have a slight statistical advantage though.

    Weapon damage and spell damage are higher than V16 for certain low level builds with gold gear.
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on 12 February 2016 01:41
  • Devve777
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    BiS=Best In Slot.
    its a term for the best possible gear you can be using for a spec/class.
    meta BiS would mean best specc with best gear equipped.
    midmaxing is priority for serious PvPers.

    for most magicka builds, as many in thread have mentioned, julianos 5piece is BiS.
    since it is craftable, its also easy to obtain.

    for duals, the arena district in imperial city, on off hours, is usuall ya good plac to find em.
  • Zimm
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    Icaruzs wrote: »
    hi guys i'm a v4 makicka sorcerer, and i started last wekend in azura star, unlike black water i felt a huge diference. In black water blade i can own a 45+ character with my lv 20 character, but in vet pvp i can't even scratch v16 people with my v4 dude, and also i get one shoted my so many tings (even using all my bubbles, like harness magicka,hardened ward,healing ward and boundless storm).

    The character window say that i'm scaled V15, but doesn't seems like it

    Why low lv characters are almost useless in vet pvp? (we are only usefull using siege) why it doesn't follow the pattern of non vet pvp?

    (Also the lag 10x worst in vet pvp x_x)

    I play on my VR1 Magicka DK fairly often and I've won 1v3 against VR16s, given I have just over 300 CP which does make a huge difference it is actually pretty nice with the battle leveling system now. Soon with the no CP campaign it should be even easier for new players to adjust to the flow of Vet.
    I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

    GanVal Zimm - VR16 Stam DK
    Accaro - VR16 Magicka Sorc
    Agony - Magicka DK
    Buuch - Stam Nightblade
  • Didgerion
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    Icaruzs wrote: »
    hi guys i'm a v4 makicka sorcerer, and i started last wekend in azura star, unlike black water i felt a huge diference. In black water blade i can own a 45+ character with my lv 20 character, but in vet pvp i can't even scratch v16 people with my v4 dude, and also i get one shoted my so many tings (even using all my bubbles, like harness magicka,hardened ward,healing ward and boundless storm).

    The character window say that i'm scaled V15, but doesn't seems like it

    Why low lv characters are almost useless in vet pvp? (we are only usefull using siege) why it doesn't follow the pattern of non vet pvp?

    (Also the lag 10x worst in vet pvp x_x)

    They are fixing it - just wait 3-4 months.

    They are getting rid of VR levels soon
    And there will be no CP pvp campaigns out there.

    The only disadvantage you will have is gear...so start working on that end as soon as possible.
    Edited by Didgerion on 12 February 2016 19:51
  • Keep_Door
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    Icaruzs wrote: »
    It's my first char

    well i have 40 cps.

    thats your problem
  • davey1107
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    @johngo0036 - totally fair point, there are now a lot of super high CP Alts in black water. I still think the higher number of noobie players was what was helping the OP in the non vet campaigns, though. Or maybe black water players aren't as good.

    Black water is kinda funny because of the CP system. Is that level 30 a real level 30, or is he hiding 500 CPs? Ha...I've hit both.

    The OP should be helped by the march update, when Azuras and (I think) black water will move to non-champion point campaigns. None of the CP buffs will apply, so he should be on equal footing and do better.
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