battle Ax bleed damage exploit needs to go

Nikkor

title says it all.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GaryA @ZOS_TristanK @ZOS_KaiSchober

thanks and goodnight

Xantaria

Agreed. Some additional information about this:

Do you know how this exploit came to life? It came because they tried to fix the Axe Bleeding not really working at all and just being reapplied again and again.

They did this with a bandaid fix: put a chance to apply it so it won't overwrite itself all the time.

And again a Bugfix made everything worse.

This fix worked partly for dualwield - You have 8% chance to procc bleeding per axe. It only works for one axe though and does not increase to 16% for two axes as it should.

For 2h though it is completely bugged and has a 100% chance to procc on EVERY damage in the game.

While wielding a 2h Axe I can reflect a Crystal Fragment and watch the Sorcerer bleed from it.

Or my Flames of Oblivion hitting somebody randomly and he starts bleeding.

It goes even this far: I can use any attack on a different bar without any axe on that bar and animationcancel said attack with a weapon swap to my 2h axe and enemies will start bleeding: If you have a 2h Axe on your bar when your damage hits somebody he will start bleeding.

Brasseurfb16_ESO

Is this a new bug? I've made a Two-Handed Axe for my character not that long ago and it seemed to work like it should. I'll test it out when I'm back home.

Ahzek

ZOS fixing bugs scares me more than it makes me happy.
But this one HAS to go, even when it makes axes 1 shot the user.

Hiero_Glyph

I'm sure they are working on it... #NoETA.

Abob

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

Xantaria

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

Your own fault for using an exploit honestly.

Xantaria

Brasseurfb16_ESO wrote: »

Is this a new bug? I've made a Two-Handed Axe for my character not that long ago and it seemed to work like it should. I'll test it out when I'm back home.

new??

it's been here since Imperial City I believe

Could have come with Orsinium aswell but that makes it 3 months atleast.

WillhelmBlack

Good one!

Gigasax

It will be fixed "soon" xD

MormondPayne_EP

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

LOL, serves you right for exploiting, cheater.

_Chaos

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

LOL, serves you right for exploiting, cheater.

ayup! beat it cupcake you deserve to lose it all when investing in a known exploit.

I love being challenged to 1v1's only to die to 12k worth of bleeding

Darkonflare15

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

LOL, serves you right for exploiting, cheater.

ayup! beat it cupcake you deserve to lose it all when investing in a known exploit.

I love being challenged to 1v1's only to die to 12k worth of bleeding

Or how about people who had 2h axe from the beginning before this bug happen?

Xantaria

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

LOL, serves you right for exploiting, cheater.

ayup! beat it cupcake you deserve to lose it all when investing in a known exploit.

I love being challenged to 1v1's only to die to 12k worth of bleeding

Or how about people who had 2h axe from the beginning before this bug happen?

You shouldn't care if it is bugged or not bugged then and just live with it getting fixed.

What is this question even.

WillhelmBlack

Darkonflare15 wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

LOL, serves you right for exploiting, cheater.

ayup! beat it cupcake you deserve to lose it all when investing in a known exploit.

I love being challenged to 1v1's only to die to 12k worth of bleeding

Or how about people who had 2h axe from the beginning before this bug happen?

Lol

Stelo

The axe bleed can proc off of Take Flight as well. That is way too OP.

Lava_Croft

The amount of total scrubs that switched to a two-handed axe just because of this bug is a bit saddening. And as usual it's almost always the people pretending to be top tier players. Hell, they even post 'awesome' videos on these forums thinking nobody will notice.

Decayed_Inside

I got killed with it so much i crafted an axe. I mean might as well everyone uses it on me. @Lava_Croft is correct too it was mainly the "top tier" players using it on me. I already have trouble fighting them probably because they use nonstop bugs and exploits

NeillMcAttack

"Whatever dude", "I just use the Battle-Axe cuz it looks cool".

HeroOfNone

If they can't fix bleed they need to just apply one of the other buffs (crit, damage, armor penetration) until they do fix it. The 100% bleed proc is annoying to the few non-2 shot fights Cyrodiil does have.

I've been sticking to my swords and daggers diligently during this, but it's a little difficult to stream when most gankers you see are exploiting this.

Liptrot

NeillMcAttack wrote: »

"Whatever dude", "I just use the Battle-Axe cuz it looks cool".

Exactly my reason too, looks far cooler than a 2H sword

ESOFanBoyz

Ok, you do know this bug lowers your overall DPS right?

If the bleed refreshes itself every time you hit someone with an auto then the Bleed effect never actually get to tick.

So standard combat flow is ability/light attack/ability/light attack. This is done for the animation canceling and it is pretty standard to maximize dps. If you are using an axe and following the most efficient way to DPS then the bleed attack will never get to tick because you just keep refreshing it before the first tick occurs. It would be a boost to axe wielders DPS if this bug was resolved, not a nerf, so calling this an exploit means you don't actually know how to DPS properly.

Spottswoode

ESOFanBoyz wrote: »

Ok, you do know this bug lowers your overall DPS right?

If the bleed refreshes itself every time you hit someone with an auto then the Bleed effect never actually get to tick.

So standard combat flow is ability/light attack/ability/light attack. This is done for the animation canceling and it is pretty standard to maximize dps. If you are using an axe and following the most efficient way to DPS then the bleed attack will never get to tick because you just keep refreshing it before the first tick occurs. It would be a boost to axe wielders DPS if this bug was resolved, not a nerf, so calling this an exploit means you don't actually know how to DPS properly.

^ QFT. The bleed never ticks because it is constantly refreshed. The 100% would only fully affect you if they hit you once.

mr_wazzabi

Spottswoode wrote: »

ESOFanBoyz wrote: »

Ok, you do know this bug lowers your overall DPS right?

If the bleed refreshes itself every time you hit someone with an auto then the Bleed effect never actually get to tick.

So standard combat flow is ability/light attack/ability/light attack. This is done for the animation canceling and it is pretty standard to maximize dps. If you are using an axe and following the most efficient way to DPS then the bleed attack will never get to tick because you just keep refreshing it before the first tick occurs. It would be a boost to axe wielders DPS if this bug was resolved, not a nerf, so calling this an exploit means you don't actually know how to DPS properly.

^ QFT. The bleed never ticks because it is constantly refreshed. The 100% would only fully affect you if they hit you once.

Critrush, switch to sword and board or dw swords. Exploit done to increase dps. Arcantanias on na ps4 dc does this bs.

Spottswoode

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Spottswoode wrote: »

ESOFanBoyz wrote: »

Ok, you do know this bug lowers your overall DPS right?

If the bleed refreshes itself every time you hit someone with an auto then the Bleed effect never actually get to tick.

So standard combat flow is ability/light attack/ability/light attack. This is done for the animation canceling and it is pretty standard to maximize dps. If you are using an axe and following the most efficient way to DPS then the bleed attack will never get to tick because you just keep refreshing it before the first tick occurs. It would be a boost to axe wielders DPS if this bug was resolved, not a nerf, so calling this an exploit means you don't actually know how to DPS properly.

^ QFT. The bleed never ticks because it is constantly refreshed. The 100% would only fully affect you if they hit you once.

Critrush, switch to sword and board or dw swords. Exploit done to increase dps. Arcantanias on na ps4 dc does this bs.

That's still only affecting you while he is using the other weapons. You still only get hit with the bleed once every 6 seconds.

arcantonias

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

Spottswoode wrote: »

ESOFanBoyz wrote: »

Ok, you do know this bug lowers your overall DPS right?

If the bleed refreshes itself every time you hit someone with an auto then the Bleed effect never actually get to tick.

So standard combat flow is ability/light attack/ability/light attack. This is done for the animation canceling and it is pretty standard to maximize dps. If you are using an axe and following the most efficient way to DPS then the bleed attack will never get to tick because you just keep refreshing it before the first tick occurs. It would be a boost to axe wielders DPS if this bug was resolved, not a nerf, so calling this an exploit means you don't actually know how to DPS properly.

^ QFT. The bleed never ticks because it is constantly refreshed. The 100% would only fully affect you if they hit you once.

Critrush, switch to sword and board or dw swords. Exploit done to increase dps. Arcantanias on na ps4 dc does this bs.

I use a precise maelstrom 2h axe so its even better lol. A nice callout though I guess Im one of the few who uses it correctly. I think lefty said it best "Battle axes can compete this patch." I think he meant to say "Battle axes are broken as hell." Also I would edit your post as naming and shaming is against the forum rules. Have a nice day!

Abob

MormondPayne_EP wrote: »

Abob wrote: »

If you fix this bug you must compensate all the ''pvp'ers'' that have wasted their money in mats, enchants and tempers for their new shiny axes.

LOL, serves you right for exploiting, cheater.

As a templar I only use Hammers, the weapon that represents justice, wisdom and lack of mats to make an axe and join the exploi..., I mean, the pro PvP'ers.

Xjcon

NEED MORE DOTS.

altemriel

LOL, ZOS please fix the bugs!!!!

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @Wrobel

Drakilian

Nothing wrong with using an exploit if everyone else is using it - otherwise you're unnecessarily putting yourself at a disadvantage against everyone who does ~

Besides, more people exploiting the axe bug makes it more likely to be looked at in the future.

SemiD4rkness

Just wait 6 months