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#Hirefengrush

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Begone foul AOE caps!
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  • Jaronking
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    Agreed.
  • Tomato
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    I second that
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  • Didgerion
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    he stays on this side of the fence
    Edited by Didgerion on 2 February 2016 02:03
  • KatzMainTank
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    Have the community draw up his contract. AoE cap wet-work for hire. #GiveYourselfToTheLORD
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  • SirDopey
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    ummm, no, just no
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  • rfennell_ESO
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    Hey, pretty sure he's available for employment! Though I suspect lateness could be an issue.

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  • acw37162
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    Yeah, no.

    I love his stream and he's funny but listen to him for longer then five he minutes and he would nerf Templars into the ground.

    My stamplar needs no such nerfs, I can not endorse this.

    If anyone thinks the spin to win, sap essence, bat swarm, proxy det, soul tether crowd was a pain in the ass pile of cheese now, remove aoe caps so no one ever has to target anything at all, just running around with aoe damage annihilitating everything, no thank you.

    I find the guy who waits for a fight to start and just runs through spamming steel tornado more annoying then WB at least the guy using WB has to keep his target locked.

    Adjust shields, breath of life, and barrier then see where we are at
    Edited by acw37162 on 2 February 2016 02:28
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    No.
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on 2 February 2016 02:54
  • RAGUNAnoOne
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    i would rather they hire @Gidorick instead at least he could make the game more fun and viable for anyone with his ideas instead of fun and viability ONLY for the already overused pure damage dealing builds like fengrush wants.
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  • Gidorick
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    i would rather they hire @Gidorick instead at least he could make the game more fun and viable for anyone with his ideas instead of fun and viability ONLY for the already overused pure damage dealing builds like fengrush wants.

    heh. Thanks @RAGUNAnoOne , but I don't think ZOS would want someone with my particular "passion". :lol:
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  • LegendaryChef
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    #HireFengrush
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  • Moglijuana
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    They should just hire @FENGRUSH to police the forums. I'd much rather see his "play nice" messages littered with f bombs than to keep finding Zos responses that literally add nothing to a conversation.

    Remove the caps! Let my DK set everyone on FIREEEE.
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  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    Yeah, no.

    I love his stream and he's funny but listen to him for longer then five he minutes and he would nerf Templars into the ground.

    My stamplar needs no such nerfs, I can not endorse this.

    If anyone thinks the spin to win, sap essence, bat swarm, proxy det, soul tether crowd was a pain in the ass pile of cheese now, remove aoe caps so no one ever has to target anything at all, just running around with aoe damage annihilitating everything, no thank you.

    I find the guy who waits for a fight to start and just runs through spamming steel tornado more annoying then WB at least the guy using WB has to keep his target locked.

    Adjust shields, breath of life, and barrier then see where we are at

    I agree to some of the sentiment here, though I have no problems with @Fengrush. I think there shouldn't be aoe caps, but then again I also wish there were player collision (Enemy & Friendly), as well as friendly fire. The whole problem with aoe damage particularly in pvp is that it is too high for what it does, and there is no tactical reason not to use it. I think by forcing friendly fire damage on most AOE (not ultimates) you would have to be a lot more tactical in play, and this would natural force players to be careful in the skills they use. Some skills might potentially defy this for instance Luminous Shards should probably not be friendly fire since it is also a way to deliver stamina and healing to a friendly target. At any regard I think the issue is that the tactics themselves lend themselves toward piling up mob vs. mob wielding aoe vs aoe. Precision targeting is the realm of small unit tactics in this game, because single target damage is generally not much better than aoe damage, but requires a lot more work, with less payout (You get more AP if you've hit 20 targets and they die, than 2).
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  • PURPLE245
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    #Hirefengrush! #FengrushDrunkReviews #No1StamSorc #Biceps #THELORD!!!!!!!
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  • PURPLE245
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    Yeah, no.

    I love his stream and he's funny but listen to him for longer then five he minutes and he would nerf Templars into the ground.

    My stamplar needs no such nerfs, I can not endorse this.

    If anyone thinks the spin to win, sap essence, bat swarm, proxy det, soul tether crowd was a pain in the ass pile of cheese now, remove aoe caps so no one ever has to target anything at all, just running around with aoe damage annihilitating everything, no thank you.

    I find the guy who waits for a fight to start and just runs through spamming steel tornado more annoying then WB at least the guy using WB has to keep his target locked.

    Adjust shields, breath of life, and barrier then see where we are at

    erm.... from all i see is zergs spamming aoes anyways??? would it not just be more fair for a smaller group to actually have a chance against mindless aoe spammers? because with aoe caps or no aoe caps zergs will still mindlessly spam aoes no matter what it will just give smaller groups that small chance to fight right?
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  • FENGRUSH
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    Yeah, no.

    I love his stream and he's funny but listen to him for longer then five he minutes and he would nerf Templars into the ground.

    My stamplar needs no such nerfs, I can not endorse this.

    If anyone thinks the spin to win, sap essence, bat swarm, proxy det, soul tether crowd was a pain in the ass pile of cheese now, remove aoe caps so no one ever has to target anything at all, just running around with aoe damage annihilitating everything, no thank you.

    I find the guy who waits for a fight to start and just runs through spamming steel tornado more annoying then WB at least the guy using WB has to keep his target locked.

    Adjust shields, breath of life, and barrier then see where we are at

    Just wanted to say - the whole 'nerfing templar' thing is not true and a completely misunderstood concept. Im not sure where it comes really - maybe because I complain when a guy Im about to kill gets healed to full by a single BOL. This isnt really a complaint with templars as much as it is with the shift in meta that is created with powerful heals at low cost (CP system issue, not a templar issue).

    And if youre a stamplar.. theres NO WAY IN HELL youve ever heard anything outside of BUFFING stamplar, because what they really had in 1.6 that set them apart was taken away, specifically with their jabs. All of my builds and theory crafting were done with a stamplar - Essa-kh. Im very familiar with what a stamplar can and could do from their transition out of 1.6. Stamplars need more than fixes, they actually do need adjustments and buffs - as does stam sorc.

    Just wanted to clear that point up because.. Im not advocating for templar nerfs* in any way. I did a whole bit on this on stream, I probably should have highlighted it.


    Edited by FENGRUSH on 3 February 2016 16:33
  • Minno
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    acw37162 wrote: »
    Yeah, no.

    I love his stream and he's funny but listen to him for longer then five he minutes and he would nerf Templars into the ground.

    My stamplar needs no such nerfs, I can not endorse this.

    If anyone thinks the spin to win, sap essence, bat swarm, proxy det, soul tether crowd was a pain in the ass pile of cheese now, remove aoe caps so no one ever has to target anything at all, just running around with aoe damage annihilitating everything, no thank you.

    I find the guy who waits for a fight to start and just runs through spamming steel tornado more annoying then WB at least the guy using WB has to keep his target locked.

    Adjust shields, breath of life, and barrier then see where we are at

    Just wanted to say - the whole 'nerfing templar' thing is not true and a completely misunderstood concept. Im not sure where it comes really - maybe because I complain when a guy Im about to kill gets healed to full by a single BOL. This isnt really a complaint with templars as much as it is with the shift in meta that is created with powerful heals at low cost (CP system issue, not a templar issue).

    And if youre a stamplar.. theres NO WAY IN HELL youve ever heard anything outside of BUFFING stamplar, because what they really had in 1.6 that set them apart was taken away, specifically with their jabs. All of my builds and theory crafting were done with a stamplar - Essa-kh. Im very familiar with what a stamplar can and could do from their transition out of 1.6. Stamplars need more than fixes, they actually do need adjustments and buffs - as does stam sorc.

    Just wanted to clear that point up because.. Im not advocating for templar nerfs in any way. I did a whole bit on this on stream, I probably should have highlighted it.

    You should!
    Edited by Minno on 3 February 2016 16:47
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  • FENGRUSH
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    whoops had to fix that last line - nerfs* not buffs!
  • Chrlynsch
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    Change a guard morph to reflect aoe damage, and watch the world burn B) keep in mind yout should loose all mobility with this toggled.
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  • mdylan2013
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    acw37162 wrote: »
    Yeah, no.

    I love his stream and he's funny but listen to him for longer then five he minutes and he would nerf Templars into the ground.

    My stamplar needs no such nerfs, I can not endorse this.

    If anyone thinks the spin to win, sap essence, bat swarm, proxy det, soul tether crowd was a pain in the ass pile of cheese now, remove aoe caps so no one ever has to target anything at all, just running around with aoe damage annihilitating everything, no thank you.

    I find the guy who waits for a fight to start and just runs through spamming steel tornado more annoying then WB at least the guy using WB has to keep his target locked.

    Adjust shields, breath of life, and barrier then see where we are at

    Just wanted to say - the whole 'nerfing templar' thing is not true and a completely misunderstood concept. Im not sure where it comes really - maybe because I complain when a guy Im about to kill gets healed to full by a single BOL. This isnt really a complaint with templars as much as it is with the shift in meta that is created with powerful heals at low cost (CP system issue, not a templar issue).

    And if youre a stamplar.. theres NO WAY IN HELL youve ever heard anything outside of BUFFING stamplar, because what they really had in 1.6 that set them apart was taken away, specifically with their jabs. All of my builds and theory crafting were done with a stamplar - Essa-kh. Im very familiar with what a stamplar can and could do from their transition out of 1.6. Stamplars need more than fixes, they actually do need adjustments and buffs - as does stam sorc.

    Just wanted to clear that point up because.. Im not advocating for templar nerfs* in any way. I did a whole bit on this on stream, I probably should have highlighted it.


    I really really really wanted to run with a stam sorc but I just couldn't see how they would be able to hold their own. I'm hoping for good news in the patch notes...
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  • eventide03b14a_ESO
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    Moglijuana wrote: »
    They should just hire @FENGRUSH to police the forums. I'd much rather see his "play nice" messages littered with f bombs than to keep finding Zos responses that literally add nothing to a conversation.

    Remove the caps! Let my DK set everyone on FIREEEE.
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  • SeventhCelestial
    Rofl, I could see Fengrush taking out Nightblades all together. :p
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  • D0ntevenL1ft
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    Not only that he also wants to buff the return stamina on heavy attacks CP. I second this just as much as any of his other proposed changes.
  • Dredlord
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    No just no the guy is clueless when it comes to game balance.

    Arenanet made this mistake by hiring someone who was good at playing their previous game but absolutely terrible at balancing a game. Just far too much bias and no integrity or foresite. I see similarities here...
  • Icaruzs
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    Why people wants the aoe caps gone? I'm new player, and if i read correctly the max an aoe skill can hit is 6 players, isnt that enough?

    Why people wants to 1x20, cyrodill is about teamplay. A soldier shouldnt be able to defeat 20 soldier with a couple of skills, there's no logic on that

    About the zerg argument. Right know you can repel pretty sucefulll a large group with few people and the right siege weapons, and we will have siege buffs. Being in a zerg won't be that advantageous
    Edited by Icaruzs on 5 February 2016 04:13
  • Galvanize
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    I agree!
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  • Faugaun
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    i would rather they hire @Gidorick instead at least he could make the game more fun and viable for anyone with his ideas instead of fun and viability ONLY for the already overused pure damage dealing builds like fengrush wants.
    i would rather they hire @Gidorick instead at least he could make the game more fun and viable for anyone with his ideas instead of fun and viability ONLY for the already overused pure damage dealing builds like fengrush wants.

    Two times! @Gidorick for Lead developer!
  • found1779
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    He's all for stamina sorcerers I'm down with this
  • GhostwalkerLD
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    i would rather they hire @Gidorick instead at least he could make the game more fun and viable for anyone with his ideas instead of fun and viability ONLY for the already overused pure damage dealing builds like fengrush wants.

    Agreed. Hire @Gidorick! Some of us share that passion!

    The one and ONLY thing I agree on is the removal of AOE caps to hopefully fix this constant zerg-blob idiocy that you see in Cyro.

    They've already kowtowed to Feng and nerfed Templars yet further, that's enough. No more of this crap, absolutely NO hiring him.
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