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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

The elephants in the room

Solariken
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The next update needs to fix two important problems. If it doesn't, my nearly 2 year ESO tenure will likely come to a sudden end. I'm overlooking the server lag issue for now, which is also a quit-worthy offense for me, because I know how complex the issue is and that they are actively working on it.

The first is the gap closer stun. This is unacceptable. It's a death sentence in a group battle, even a small skirmish. Combat before this stupid addition was very smooth and enjoyable. Wrobel had better uphold his promise to change this, and in a big way.

The second is Wrecking Blow. I stopped using WB on my stamplar because it feels like cheating and 90+% of stam builds are focused around it. It's another death sentence in a group battle - the range is INSANE and it's infinitely spammable. I roll with 25k health and get 2-shot by it all the time. It seems to have its own special rules or something, because I get hit by it during a dodge-roll, immediately after a dodge-roll, 20 meters away, around corners (seriously), etc. My suggestions:

1. FIX THE RANGE/LOS CHECK.
2. Take away the self-empower.
3. Add the wind-up animation/visual cue that NPC's have when they use uppercut. WB is almost invisible as is without the crazy animation cancelling you can pull off with it.

This game has a disgusting amount of problems that need attention, but these two specifically are sucking all the fun out of it.
Edited by Solariken on 20 January 2016 22:28
  • Johngo0036
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    One of my biggest issues is that i permanently run with around 300 ping,
    Animation cancelling is not something i can really strive to do but do get it sorta right,

    When i go up against someone with a 100 ping its just crazy what damage they do and how quickly.....
    I can NEVER achieve this kind of damage with a 300 ping and what is even worse is i cannot defend myself against these guys...

    I am not complaining, just saying..
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  • Derra
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    Solariken wrote: »
    The next update needs to fix two important problems. If it doesn't, my nearly 2 year ESO tenure will likely come to a sudden end. I'm overlooking the server lag issue for now, which is also a quit-worthy offense for me, because I know how complex the issue is and that they are actively working on it.

    Jokes on you here. Most of my original guildmembers quit because of the crippling server performance issues during primetime back in october to december of 2014. That´s how long they´ve been "working" on it.

    If you think it´s going to get better without them changing (forcing) the players to play differently you´re being a bit delusional.
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  • found1779
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    Solariken wrote: »
    The next update needs to fix two important problems. If it doesn't, my nearly 2 year ESO tenure will likely come to a sudden end. I'm overlooking the server lag issue for now, which is also a quit-worthy offense for me, because I know how complex the issue is and that they are actively working on it.

    The first is the gap closer stun. This is unacceptable. It's a death sentence in a group battle, even a small skirmish. Combat before this stupid addition was very smooth and enjoyable. Wrobel had better uphold his promise to change this, and in a big way.

    The second is Wrecking Blow. I stopped using WB on my stamplar because it feels like cheating and 90+% of stam builds are focused around it. It's another death sentence in a group battle - the range is INSANE and it's infinitely spammable. I roll with 25k health and get 2-shot by it all the time. It seems to have its own special rules or something, because I get hit by it during a dodge-roll, immediately after a dodge-roll, 20 meters away, around corners (seriously), etc. My suggestions:

    1. FIX THE RANGE/LOS CHECK.
    2. Take away the self-empower.
    3. Add the wind-up animation/visual cue that NPC's have when they use uppercut. WB is almost invisible as is without the crazy animation cancelling you can pull off with it.

    This game has a disgusting amount of problems that need attention, but these two specifically are sucking all the fun out of it.

    As soon as stamina sorcerers and Dragonknights get another burst damage then wrecking blow needs to be looked at otherwise people who rely on it will quit the game also it's the only burst damage move i can do as a stamina sorcerer if i don't have it what else is there for a burst damage move nothing yet nightblades will still be able to spam surprise attack ambush that's not fair
    Edited by found1779 on 21 January 2016 09:47
  • Knootewoot
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    I can live with the fact people can animation cancel WB so fast, once I fly through air im dead because I cannot defend against it (high ping mostly and I can't react so quick and I sometimes fly through air multiple times)

    I can live with the other spams.

    But for the love of [insert favorite deity here] fix the lag. It's what is the most annoying things there is. Half my skill fire to late and although I don't spam lotus fan, I press it like a maniac because when I want it to work I just don't teleport to other player. I teleport in place and by the time it finally works, the other player is already gone.

    Yesterday I spend more time in a loading screen then actual playing. I was so pissed I went playing "Shower with Dad simulator 2015".
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