Cyrodiil Code of Conduct - How are your Moral Standards?

raasdal

Another thread about ganking being shamefull or not in IC, got me to reflect on how my "moral standards" are in Cyrodiil.

I will explain the rules i play by, and hope others will share. I am very curious about how people play.?

As a base, i am primarily solo player. Do not engage in sieges, but spend most my time looking for small scale. Also play in duelling guild. So i might have more rules than most.

Encountering a Combat.

So if i bump into people fightinh, if my side is outnumbered i will jump right in. Or if it is more than 3 on each side, i will also just jump in. But i do not do so if it is a 1v1 or 1vX. i will go there and watch the fight. When the fight is over, i will attack the person (assuming the other faction person won). I will usually not give him time to regain resources. ONLY if the persons stands perfectly still. Many people actually do that as they realize i am watching. Any movement and i will attack though. I consider that fair chance.

Exception to this is if i battle is on high traffic path. If i know any number of ppl will show up any second, i just kill anything. No time for chivalry.

Knocking off Horse

This is my most used rule. If i encounter someone on Horse, not on high traffic road, i will light attack and let person dismount. If he flees on horse, i will knock him off, and then buff up and wait for him to come out of CC. As soon as he is up, i will attack.

If on high traffic road, it will depend on my mood and how things are going in general. If i know more are coming, i will kill you on your horse. But even on high traffic i might give the courtesy of not abusing the horse knock down CC.

Ganking

I do not enjoy fights where i have the opponent Outnumbered. But looking for small scale often turns into unorganised ganking, like on Alessia bridge for example. In these cases, i will not join the ganking, but simply let my fellow soldiers fight it out and watch for new incoming people that i can block off. That way gives me some nice 1v1 and 1vX.

So am i alone in this playstyle.? I know i am not, since i experience some on the battlefield. But it seems the majority of people would call my sense of chivalry for betrayal. That is often said by fellow soldiers whom i have watched die, only to then kill their killer after the fact. Those people seldom feel that i did not interrupt their delightful 1v1 rather they think "wtf why did you not help?!!"

For me, these rule are a mix of what i would like other people did to me, as well as what i enjoy. Not entering other people in 1v1 is both. I do not enjoy a fight where i am 2v1, as much as 1v1, and then i would like if my own fellow soldiers did not interrupt my 1v1 battles. I feel cheated of the kill.

What are your thoughts?

leepalmer95

If it's a duel 1v1

If it's not i kill everything.

ThePonzzz

It's nice that you try to have some moral standards, but there is very little honor in ESO PvP. It's a very dog eat dog environment. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If it helps you sleep better at night (figuratively) then live up to it. But you're just a sack of AP for the zerg! Until there is small scale PvP that is enforced and confined, I don't think I'll have a code of conduct. I do like small-scaled PvP though. Resource fighting between 3v3 is some of the funnest PvP there is.

Tryxus

Moral Standards? Is that a type of Deodorant?

timidobserver

If have no morals at all other than trying to avoid interrupting obvious 1v1s that are happening in remote location on the map. If someone decides to have a 1v1 on Alessia bridge, then I could care less if they get interrupted, but if they are somewhere no one should be, I wouldn't interrupt it.

Smolt

I won't interrupt duels. I will gank. If you are on a guar, my goal is to not let you up after being knocked off. A bear mount though, deserves consideration.

Also, I try not to gank the same person twice.

SirAndy

raasdal wrote: »

What are your thoughts?

I do whatever i feel like at the moment.

However, if a see a 1v1 i always leave them alone. Sometimes i pull up a chair and watch.

In fact, whenever i have to leave for a short time, i just pull out my chair and sit down. Surprisingly, many people leave you alone if you're obviously just sitting there.

I have had some nice cross faction dolmen and dungeon runs where random people just started playing together instead of ganking each other. Those are always fun!

ThePonzzz

timidobserver wrote: »

If have no morals at all other than trying to avoid interrupting obvious 1v1s that are happening in remote location on the map. If someone decides to have a 1v1 on Alessia bridge, then I could care less if they get interrupted, but if they are somewhere no one should be, I wouldn't interrupt it.

This.

eliisra

I do interfere 1v1 unless I know or recognize the player as someone who wants to fend for himself or if obvious duel.

For all I know it can be a PvE hero newbie with 80 CP and trash gear that needs help v.s. min/max demigod. I dont love this puffed up attitude where seasoned PvP'ers kinda lets enemy players farm their pugs or "potatoes" because best buddies in the same duel guild talking smack all day long.

I to need help 1v1 when I'm heal&support specc'ed on templar and get jumped. I dont have the burst or enough offensive skills to kill anyone with that build. If some ally would just ignore and watch me trying to heal and soak Wrecking Blow after Wrecking Blow, until I eventually died, I'd be legit mad. I mean "protect the healer" is possibly the first amendment of MMORGS lol. Thankfully most random people passing by aren't complete idiots and they wont /sitchair and watch some imaginary duel, they help out.

But I never jump in if one or a handful of enemies are heavily outnumbered. It's embarrassing. Why "help" 20 guys killing 3 players or whatever? Those enemies should get a medal of major balls, not more tryhards beating on them.

FriedEggSandwich

If there is more than one friendly attacking an enemy I won't join in, although I might hit rapid regen to get some ap. I try not to interrupt duels but sometimes it's hard to tell, especially when peeps duel on transit lines or outside outposts. Sometimes I get ganked and am glad of a bit of help so it seems logical to me to help a friendly. I don't enjoy ganking but do get dragged along by ganking mad friends occasionally. If you get ganked by me then I'm sorry, I was made to do it. I won't use overload attacks against players. I won't go crazy on lowbies, but that's only if I notice they're lowbies. But that is the extent of my code of conduct.

ScooberSteve

Theres no friends fair fighting or ethics in war. War is war which is crude and uncivilized.

driosketch

I PvP by this code:

As a freelance support player, jump into every fight unless they are obviously having a duel. *

On the battlefield, the other two alliances are equally my enemy. But if a truce with one helps bring down the other, who happens to be top dog, I will honor it. However, if members of the other side don't honor it, then the truce is off.

When running dallies, I'll let the PvEers from other alliances pass by unless they attack first.**

IC, neither a victim nor ganker be. ***

* I sacrifice some personal survivability and single target burst dps to keep allies alive. Rushing in to help an ally who proceeds to just stand there while their duel build opponent comes after you can be embarrassing to say the least. (To be fair, last time it happened they were fighting in plain view of the front porch of an outpost. After I backed off, I asked if it was a duel.) Now if unsure, I will /say to ask if it is one or not.

On the flip side, my nonvet DK tank alt got into an impromptu duel with a nonvet NB outside of Ash. At first I thought I was taking on 1v2, but the second enemy kept backing off until till I realized this would be a 1v1 fight. It must have gone on for almost 10 minutes in which time one or two more came out to watch. I've never experienced that sort of courtesy on my main, and I'm not sure why the others held back. If players from my side had shown up, I wouldn't have objected to them jumping in.

**This wasn't always the case, but I'm strong enough now to not be afraid of gankers any more. I'll watch them under my mage light to see if they are aggressive or not, and if they look like they'd rather not fight, I'll leave them be.

***Recently I joined my guild on their weekly sewer run. They enter one enemy sewer from the district above, then work towards the center and back through our sewers to our home. Repeat with the other enemy sewers. At the start of each run, however, they camp the enemy base. We got quite a few stones off a returning player. I already carry next to no TV stones on me usually, and having now experienced the other side, I can say the whole system doesn't work for me. I feel bad for the one player. The ones coming out of base had nothing on them.

Cathexis

I think most players should abide by at least one rule which is don't kill lowbies who aren't sieging or engaging you offensively or as part of a group.

Another good thing to be aware of is dueling.

RAGUNAnoOne

If someone is obviously PvEing I ignore them and possibly if they agree join in if it is an objective I need as well (I would be quite decent in a friendly fire campaign) but if you attack first I will chop your damn head off if I can. No interupting duels (though I have yet to run into one). I also don't teabag because *** is disgusting

EDIT: the legal term for having sex with a corpse is a banned word? sheesh a bit over moderated here.

jhharvest

I'm too nice, probably.
I don't gank. I don't attack people on horses. I don't attack people lower level than me. If someone is running away, I'll let them (unless it's a well known player). I whisper to opposing faction PVErs to let them know they aren't safe. You know, basically trying to treat others how I'd like them to treat me.

MissBizz

driosketch wrote: »

<SNIP>
When running dallies, I'll let the PvEers from other alliances pass by unless they attack first.**
<SNIP>

Thank you. *bows*

Jura23

If I kill somebody easily in IC district twice in a short time, I will ignore him when I meet him again.

Heindrich

I am mostly ruthless and try to kill every enemy I meet. It's a PvP zone, I expect no mercy, so I offer none.

The only exceptions:
1) I usually ignore players obviously duelling if one of them is on my alliance. If both are enemies, I'll attack regardless.
2) I might show mercy to a low level player obviously questing alone in Cyrodil. I will however attack groups of lowbies/PvE'ers and anyone inside IC.

DannyLV702

Rule #1 wreck noobs

SemiD4rkness

I don't interrupt duels that's it. Unless it's someone that interrupted me when dueling or abused mobs to fight me in IC.
The rest i don't care Ill kill you even if you're 1v10.

AverageJo3Gam3r

I don't engage low level players unless they engage me. Same with PvErs. I refuse to gank, but everything else is free for all.

thelordoffelines

My morales are
AP>everything.

heystreethawk

1) don't push on deep-ass keeps if your alliance is already running the map

2) avoid the friendly zerg whenever possible, unless it is irrefutable that they will be facing a comparable enemy zerg

3) if the whole map is yours, leave the campaign

The fact that more people don't do the same is why Thornblade died back in the day, and why Trueflame is probably going to be completely deserted for the next campaign cycle.

I'm not too concerned about killing low level players, because I don't think them dying or not is really going to affect the long-term health of PvP. They can always return after leveling up, or they can go play on Blackwater Blade. They are not in danger of being chased or anything, but their physical safety is not a priority for me.

bardx86

kill everyone, hell i'd kill everyone on my side if i could!

allmoney01

Weave don't spam unless being zergd on, troll teabaggers, and stay conscious of others in game experience....I want us to all have fun and not quit playing for a 6 on 1 man spambush gank group. Share tactics with pugs in a non-duechey way. AND, always give props when due, to friend or foe. I also take time when I'm bored to help nubs with their build, just to keep people playing. Have fun out there and don't be cheesy!

revonine

It's Cyrodill man, I expect no mercy and I give none, however three points:

I respect dueling and everything about it, if I encounter two players fighting I will pull up a chair and watch.

I generally leave lowbies alone if I know they are not someone's alt especially in quest hubs. If they attack me first however..

Gate camping is disgusting. Let them get their home keeps back.

MaxwellC

I'm sorry but every one dies if they're on the opposite faction unless they're doing a 1v1 then they'll be left alone.

Alcast

Must...kill...everything!

VincentBlanquin

1. dont kill anybody twice in cities and surroundings if he is obviously easy kill

this seems like basic for me, but still almost nobody follow this, its a shame

Daraugh

So, op, if your allies lose a fight you go in after the fight is over without letting the enemy regain resources? What if their movement is to leave the area? Maybe I'm missing a bit here because that's a classic example of ganking and my interpretation was that you're not in favor of it?

Large scale is fun. Siege, defending keeps, coordinated groups etc. I don't really care for solo pvp since I enjoy healing, actually healing not just spamming rapid regen. Rez the fallen and them get back in, take the objective, keep the pressure on! I don't go out of my way to chase and I leave obvious pve questers alone, but other than that anyone is fair game.

Zaldan

All targets are viable targets, mainly because I've seen 3 players wipe 20 and 1 player wipe 10, you can never be sure how it's going to go with the state of PVP in ESO. I've died to trains and been in trains and helped kill trains so long as the game works as intended it's all good