Negate Magic: working as intended?

Solariken

While playing in IC today, any time the Xivkyn NPC's used Negate Magic, two very odd things would happen.

1. My Caltrops would instantly disappear
2. When I would use Shielded Assault and travel through the Negate field, I would make it to the target but no damage would be inflicted and I would not receive a shield

Can anyone confirm?

MrGigglypants

Negate has an area cleanse morph and it is a silence/stun so makes sense that it would cancel you out.

Lucky28

I actually don't think it is. While playing today there where AD inside my Negate casting heals which shouldn't be happening.

Solariken

MrGigglypants wrote: »

Negate has an area cleanse morph and it is a silence/stun so makes sense that it would cancel you out.

But I thought it only cleansed magic-based effects? Caltrops shouldn't be cancelled.

MrGigglypants

It stuns players not silences. And it cleanses area based effects I'm not sure if it's limited to a magicka based ability.

OGLezard

Ok just so everyone knows; The mob negate is working as it is supposed to IN ALL ITS GLORY...... what we have with the player negate is how it is supposed to work with players, in all its lack luster shame. All you have to do is perform a break free inside an enemy players negate and you can cast again.

Player negates used to work like the mob negates until people cried that sorcs placing negates in a timely manner on breaches, and not being able to cast from inside or have ground based affects not work from outside to in(i.e. cast wall of elements from outside the ulti and it would negate that skill if it touched the dome), was a bit of overkill for an ultimate so ZoS decided against all the fun stuff as per usual.

Gone are the days of a really fun ulti

Lucky28

MrGigglypants wrote: »

It stuns players not silences. And it cleanses area based effects I'm not sure if it's limited to a magicka based ability.

No it doesn't. it silences players not stuns them. it only stuns NPCs

OGLezard wrote: »

Ok just so everyone knows; The mob negate is working as it is supposed to IN ALL ITS GLORY...... what we have with the player negate is how it is supposed to work with players, in all its lack luster shame. All you have to do is perform a break free inside an enemy players negate and you can cast again.

Player negates used to work like the mob negates until people cried that sorcs placing negates in a timely manner on breaches, and not being able to cast from inside or have ground based affects not work from outside to in(i.e. cast wall of elements from outside the ulti and it would negate that skill if it touched the dome), was a bit of overkill for an ultimate so ZoS decided against all the fun stuff as per usual.

Gone are the days of a really fun ulti

Are you *** serious?. time to take that waste of an Ultimate off my bar permanently.

MrGigglypants

Lucky28 wrote: »

MrGigglypants wrote: »

It stuns players not silences. And it cleanses area based effects I'm not sure if it's limited to a magicka based ability.

No it doesn't. it silences players not stuns them. it only stuns NPCs

OGLezard wrote: »

Ok just so everyone knows; The mob negate is working as it is supposed to IN ALL ITS GLORY...... what we have with the player negate is how it is supposed to work with players, in all its lack luster shame. All you have to do is perform a break free inside an enemy players negate and you can cast again.

Player negates used to work like the mob negates until people cried that sorcs placing negates in a timely manner on breaches, and not being able to cast from inside or have ground based affects not work from outside to in(i.e. cast wall of elements from outside the ulti and it would negate that skill if it touched the dome), was a bit of overkill for an ultimate so ZoS decided against all the fun stuff as per usual.

Gone are the days of a really fun ulti

Are you *** serious?. time to take that waste of an Ultimate off my bar permanently.

Lucky28 wrote: »

MrGigglypants wrote: »

It stuns players not silences. And it cleanses area based effects I'm not sure if it's limited to a magicka based ability.

No it doesn't. it silences players not stuns them. it only stuns NPCs

OGLezard wrote: »

Ok just so everyone knows; The mob negate is working as it is supposed to IN ALL ITS GLORY...... what we have with the player negate is how it is supposed to work with players, in all its lack luster shame. All you have to do is perform a break free inside an enemy players negate and you can cast again.

Player negates used to work like the mob negates until people cried that sorcs placing negates in a timely manner on breaches, and not being able to cast from inside or have ground based affects not work from outside to in(i.e. cast wall of elements from outside the ulti and it would negate that skill if it touched the dome), was a bit of overkill for an ultimate so ZoS decided against all the fun stuff as per usual.

Gone are the days of a really fun ulti

Are you *** serious?. time to take that waste of an Ultimate off my bar permanently.

It's great in vwgt you can cleanse molag kenaso lines with it

BigTone

despite being nerfed, a well placed negate is the difference between winning and losing a large scale battle. If you are playing solo then you shouldn't be using it.

Negate negates all ground based effect such as caltrops, daedric mines, volcanic rune, dk standard, nova, veil of blades, etc.

Unfortunately all you have to do is "break free" inside the negate and you can cast again

#buffnegate

revonine

Lucky28 wrote: »

I actually don't think it is. While playing today there where AD inside my Negate casting heals which shouldn't be happening.

Negate obeys the AOE cap doesn't it? That could have been it.

Lucky28

revonine wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

I actually don't think it is. While playing today there where AD inside my Negate casting heals which shouldn't be happening.

Negate obeys the AOE cap doesn't it? That could have been it.

I don't think so. at any rate, all you have to do is press your break free button and you're done with it. such a disappointing revelation that was.

RAGUNAnoOne

Lucky28 wrote: »

revonine wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

I actually don't think it is. While playing today there where AD inside my Negate casting heals which shouldn't be happening.

Negate obeys the AOE cap doesn't it? That could have been it.

I don't think so. at any rate, all you have to do is press your break free button and you're done with it. such a disappointing revelation that was.

that is the STUPIDEST thing I ever heard in this game if you don't want your spells negated just don't stand in stupid why is it so hard for people to understand that concept that they had to add a break free?