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Best way to get full Akaviri Armour

RapturousRex
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Any tips? Works out at like 4 ana half million AP or something silly, managed to get a 100k in the passed couple of days, I was just wondering if anyone had any way to increase the rate I'm getting them?

Used all my gold to rebuild walls, spend an hour or 2 getting more to keep doing it, and whilst Azura is pretty busy, I can't reliably get on with a group.

Any help?
  • Alucardo
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    With the introduction of the Thieves Guild, AP will be easier to obtain for smaller groups, so I'll probably just run around with a few friends being as active as I can. If you're earning 50-60k a day that's not too bad, and it sounds like you're doing the right things.
    If I want to boost it even more I'll go kill a boss in a delve. Sounds stupid, but it actually gives you a 20% AP bonus for an hour or so. Absolutely worth it if you go join a huge battle right after it.
    I guess you could buy a few pieces with AP then the rest with gold or something if you wanted it bad enough, though I'll be saving my AP for the undaunted gear ;)
  • Draxys
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    Best bet is to keep looking for a group you can run with regularly, and go grab the AP buff for killing a cyrodiil delve boss while you're at it. Other than that, just buckle up for a grind, it's going to take a while if you don't have the gold to pay other people for the motifs.
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  • RapturousRex
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    I didn't know about the Delve boss, accidentally done that a couple of times. Going to be taking full advantage of it.

    Having to try and solo Dolmens to get siege gear. It's doable but I get jumped every now and then.

    I'm looking at selling it myself, decent way to make a return on my gold.

    I've not seen the thieves guild stuff mind, I tend to hide away until Iy drops and then look into it.
    Edited by RapturousRex on 19 December 2015 14:37
  • Alucardo
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    I've not seen the thieves guild stuff mind, I tend to hide away until Iy drops and then look into it.
    At the moment, ZOS has confirmed you actually earn more AP in larger groups. This will be changing with the Thieves Guild drop. You'll be earning more as a smaller group. I think it was nearly double or something if I remember correctly. Definitely a well needed change!

  • Crown
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    @Alucardo Making AP is actually a LOT easier solo these days. The issue is that most of the solo players are more ganker/duellist types and don't know how to AP farm.
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  • RapturousRex
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    Crown, any advice? AP farming is pretty much my entire purpose.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Farm bosses in Orsinium public dungeons for Ancient Orc motif pages, sell them and use that gold to buy Akaviri pages from pvp players.
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Heal spam. Find a big zerg--you don't even have to join it--and throw heals at whoever on your side is fighting. I've also gotten decent AP throwing siege at blobs of foes.
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  • CatchMeTrolling
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    You get ap pretty slow to be honest
  • Crown
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    @WhiteCoatSyndrome Heal spamming doesn't get you much AP anymore. In order to make much, you need to heal a player who has taken damage from an opponent, and who gets AP from killing that or another opponent. You might make a few k per hour, but I don't believe it would be worth it.

    @RapturousRex Recommendations depend on your play style, what you want to do, and who you want to run with. Basic ganking in the right place, doing a 2-3 person group to try and take out side/back lines of larger groups, or just running in a 16+ person group that is semi-competent can all net about 20+ k / hour. For more than that, your farmins strategy has to be good or you have to be with a good group. Solo players are capable of making a lot more than groups these days, though most solo players only know how to kill, not farm. @WraithAzraiel asked me to come on his stream and answer questions about AP farming - bug him to set up a time for it in the next week or two and I'll be happy to.
    Edited by Crown on 19 December 2015 22:39
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  • Skinzz
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    I have the full akaviri armor set but yeah you have to play a lot. If youre just starting off then you would have to be like major rank by the time u have enough ap saved. Youre better off just buying for gold in guild stores.
    Anybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?
  • Sanct16
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    @Crown, what did they change about healing AP gain? Last time I checked you could get a lot of AP just following your factions pugzerg and spamming rapid regen.
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  • Crown
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    @Sanct16 It was a few patches ago.. You can make some AP, but not a lot.

    I suppose that "a lot" is rather subjective. To me, anything less than 20k per hour isn't worth playing, and 30k / hour is the baseline for a good group or solo player going normally.

    Playing optimally with no lag when there are enough opposing groups to fight (doesn't happy often enough), 40k / hour for a group is more reasonable, and 50k is great. Please keep in mind that this happens VERY rarely, and only the best groups tend to make this much - and then not for very long.

    Playing optimally solo with no lag when there are enough opponents to fight (happens a lot more often than the above), 35-40k / hour is not too difficult to achieve.

    As an example, I was helping another toon level up to get proxy (PvP skill line 7 / rank 15), which takes about 1.6 million AP total. I would hit targets with a camo huntered snipe and cripple as I moved AWAY from them, and she would finish them off. Almost all the time I had gotten far enough away that she got my share of the AP. After about 20 hours of play, she's at PvP rank 14, which is about 1.3 million total AP. That works out to 65k / hour. Now, half of that is rightfully mine, but I'm happy to effectively give her my share so that she gets to proxy more quickly as that will make our duo play more powerful. I also don't want to get to Grand Overlord too quickly (I'm 4 million away), as once you reach that level there's a bug whereby you don't get PvP reward mails any more.
    Edited by Crown on 20 December 2015 16:29
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  • Erondil
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    Crown wrote: »
    @Sanct16 It was a few patches ago.. You can make some AP, but not a lot.

    I suppose that "a lot" is rather subjective. To me, anything less than 20k per hour isn't worth playing, and 30k / hour is the baseline for a good group or solo player going normally.

    Playing optimally with no lag when there are enough opposing groups to fight (doesn't happy often enough), 40k / hour for a group is more reasonable, and 50k is great. Please keep in mind that this happens VERY rarely, and only the best groups tend to make this much - and then not for very long.

    Playing optimally solo with no lag when there are enough opponents to fight (happens a lot more often than the above), 35-40k / hour is not too difficult to achieve.

    As an example, I was helping another toon level up to get proxy (PvP skill line 7 / rank 15), which takes about 1.6 million AP total. I would hit targets with a camo huntered snipe and cripple as I moved AWAY from them, and she would finish them off. Almost all the time I had gotten far enough away that she got my share of the AP. After about 20 hours of play, she's at PvP rank 14, which is about 1.3 million total AP. That works out to 65k / hour. Now, half of that is rightfully mine, but I'm happy to effectively give her my share so that she gets to proxy more quickly as that will make our duo play more powerful. I also don't want to get to Grand Overlord too quickly (I'm 4 million away), as once you reach that level there's a bug whereby you don't get PvP reward mails any more.

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  • themdogesbite
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    Crown wrote: »
    @Sanct16 It was a few patches ago.. You can make some AP, but not a lot.

    I suppose that "a lot" is rather subjective. To me, anything less than 20k per hour isn't worth playing, and 30k / hour is the baseline for a good group or solo player going normally.

    Playing optimally with no lag when there are enough opposing groups to fight (doesn't happy often enough), 40k / hour for a group is more reasonable, and 50k is great. Please keep in mind that this happens VERY rarely, and only the best groups tend to make this much - and then not for very long.

    Playing optimally solo with no lag when there are enough opponents to fight (happens a lot more often than the above), 35-40k / hour is not too difficult to achieve.

    As an example, I was helping another toon level up to get proxy (PvP skill line 7 / rank 15), which takes about 1.6 million AP total. I would hit targets with a camo huntered snipe and cripple as I moved AWAY from them, and she would finish them off. Almost all the time I had gotten far enough away that she got my share of the AP. After about 20 hours of play, she's at PvP rank 14, which is about 1.3 million total AP. That works out to 65k / hour. Now, half of that is rightfully mine, but I'm happy to effectively give her my share so that she gets to proxy more quickly as that will make our duo play more powerful. I also don't want to get to Grand Overlord too quickly (I'm 4 million away), as once you reach that level there's a bug whereby you don't get PvP reward mails any more.

    50k/h rare and great? How big is the diffrence in AP gains between EU and NA?? Thats like usualy the average for us.
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  • Crown
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    @johan.danielsson1994b16_ESO Apparently you guys don't lag out in prime time. We're often lucky if we can get everyone back and ready within 3-4 minutes. When hard core AP farming we've hit 80k, but normal play - rarely above 40k.
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  • Sanct16
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    @Crown

    I have to say it feels weird when people talk to me like I am a total noob although I am Ar50 :'( But I guess its my fault for not making a thread about it :P Btw arent the rewards bound to certain amount of AP earned? In that case it doesn't really make a difference if you get to rank 50.

    Regarding healing AP at the end of 1.5 I would get 30k+ AP/h just from spamming rapid regen but I just did it as an experiment for some hours so can't really say much about it and I guess I didn't "ONLY" spam rapid regen but also do some damage. Perhaps @taresgos can give us some insight? :)

    Regarding AP gains in group I guess it really depends on what you do as a group. When we play "for the campaign" and try to split up EPs 100 man zerg by taking back-keeps which involves a lot of riding and PvDooring we end up around 35-40k AP/hour but when we don't care about the campaign and just go balls-deep between enemy keeps we get way more, usually like 50-100k per hour over several hours. Kinda depends on the time and the group size etc and of course in longer sessions the AP/h drops due to breaks etc but 50k/h really doesn't seem that great.

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  • Crown
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    @Sanct16 I didn't mean to respond to you in any way that sounded condescending or the like - I've been answering a lot of questions on the forums recently, and tend to adopt my "teacher" perspective when writing these days.. Comes from way too many years of writing documentation and detailed explanations in real life..

    Your AP gains are a hell of a lot more than anyone makes on NA these days.. It's very very rare that we see that much for more than a brief farm. When there are enough people to kill for it to be feasible, we tends to get 500+ latency, crashes, skills not firing, bars not swapping, etc. I've actually been playing mostly solo the past two weeks primarily due to being fed up with the lag.
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  • Crown
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    @Sanct16 As a high AP earner in EU, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the AP changes coming up. Details at: forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/237193/regarding-brian-wheelers-statements-on-changes-to-ap-in-the-next-patch
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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Hunt solo 800 point per kill and the kills just keep coming you can hunt on siege lines getting your kills and helping out the team.
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  • RapturousRex
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    I'm a DK hybrid, I use 2h for killing folk, tends to do alright in groups, but solo I tend to bounce off of sorcerers and Nightblades bail before I really hurt yhem. Plus, erryone is VR16 and work in pairs.

    Managed to gey yhe helmet off of someone, got enough for the shoulder pads, which are my 2 key ones.

    Are the swords katanas? Got a mate who'll pay me the cost I'm paying for the helmet if I can make him katanas, so I may save for that.
  • altemriel
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    How do I actually get the pages of Akaviri motif and the goldscales? I know that from PVP somehow, but how?

    serious question, no trolling, noob in PVP.
    Edited by altemriel on 22 December 2015 14:11
  • Turelus
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    Crown wrote: »
    @Sanct16 It was a few patches ago.. You can make some AP, but not a lot.

    I suppose that "a lot" is rather subjective. To me, anything less than 20k per hour isn't worth playing, and 30k / hour is the baseline for a good group or solo player going normally.

    Playing optimally with no lag when there are enough opposing groups to fight (doesn't happy often enough), 40k / hour for a group is more reasonable, and 50k is great. Please keep in mind that this happens VERY rarely, and only the best groups tend to make this much - and then not for very long.

    Playing optimally solo with no lag when there are enough opponents to fight (happens a lot more often than the above), 35-40k / hour is not too difficult to achieve.

    As an example, I was helping another toon level up to get proxy (PvP skill line 7 / rank 15), which takes about 1.6 million AP total. I would hit targets with a camo huntered snipe and cripple as I moved AWAY from them, and she would finish them off. Almost all the time I had gotten far enough away that she got my share of the AP. After about 20 hours of play, she's at PvP rank 14, which is about 1.3 million total AP. That works out to 65k / hour. Now, half of that is rightfully mine, but I'm happy to effectively give her my share so that she gets to proxy more quickly as that will make our duo play more powerful. I also don't want to get to Grand Overlord too quickly (I'm 4 million away), as once you reach that level there's a bug whereby you don't get PvP reward mails any more.

    50k/h rare and great? How big is the diffrence in AP gains between EU and NA?? Thats like usualy the average for us.

    I was thinking the same. I have known one player on the EP side to make 70-90k/h with his small group or while leading a bomb train.
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  • Crown
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    @altemriel You can buy it from any quartermaster (dude who sells siege).
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  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    altemriel wrote: »
    How do I actually get the pages of Akaviri motif and the goldscales? I know that from PVP somehow, but how?

    serious question, no trolling, noob in PVP.

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  • RapturousRex
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    Merchants rhe only place to get goldscale?
  • Draxys
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    Merchants rhe only place to get goldscale?

    Other than deconstructing sets like bastion of the heartland, yea
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