How do you defeat a Dragonknight as a Templar? [PvP Discussion Series]

Minno

After a series of successful threads concentrating on one class versus another, it is time to introduce the next series!
I'd like to see similar discussions happen for all classes (I'm looking at one topic at least every 2 weeks.)

Without confusing people, this thread will only be about Dragonknight versus Templar fights. Both group/1v1.

For the other threads, please refer to the following links/class combos:

1) Sorc versus Templar (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/234851/so-how-do-you-defeat-a-sorcerer-as-a-templar#latest)
2) Nightblade versus Sorc (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/235410/how-do-you-defeat-a-sorcerer-as-a-nightblade-pvp-discussion-series#latest)

Abob

There's a big difference between magicka DK and stam DK.

Minno

Abob wrote: »

There's a big difference between magicka DK and stam DK.

So pick one and offer a beginning discussion point.

Minno

For me, as a magicka Templar, I don't get to kill many DK's. Mostly due to talons forcing me to CC break (purifying ritual won't break it. )

Their dots are a non issue, but lack of escapes/movement means i can't move away from their dragonleap.

Troll tip for templars against DK's: of course eclipse is a viable tool to double reflect, but most people don't realize reflective light can hit a DK with his wingson (but only if he's next to another enemy player.). Just cast reflective light on the non-DK, with him in range of the AOE and it will apply the dot negating his reflect spell.

I have destro staff on my backbar to either do the following:

1) use spell resistance debuff against S&B users, or
2) use ice staff for added snare/destructive reach snare.

This will keep him at range to setup an ulti combo instead of him keeping me grounded.

Jabs is not reflectable so you can get your attacks hitting without worry.

Morozov

as a stam DK I just find the Templar in question and spam wrecking blow....because I played a magDK till a couple weeks ago. Im still learning if I should spam wrecking blow or just spam it A LOT till I get into execute range and then skip right over executioner and go for one more wrecking blow.

As a magDK it was all about sustain till you could stack/time a major sorc buff/proxy/ leap or shooting star for a quick burst then whip them down. if you could wait till the CC immunity wore off and get a quick talons on them you could add a little more dps if it wasn't enough burst to take them down. If running fossilize doing that combo it would be: get the proxy up, get major sorcery, cast meteor then fossilize. They would sit there fossilized unable to do anything and take a full meteor to the face, rush in for the proxy then whip till it was a fluffy consistency.

Sad part of playing a magDK solo, for me, was my dots were pretty much useless. So unless I could get a burst chain combo it was basically a fight of sustains when it came to Templars.

if its a stam temp, I did the same. One thing I would try to remember was to time blocks to keep from being CC'd from jabs.

EDIT: I just re-read the title and realize I gave away all my DK brethren's secrets.....nevermind I said anything

Minno

Morozov wrote: »

as a stam DK I just find the Templar in question and spam wrecking blow....because I played a magDK till a couple weeks ago. Im still learning if I should spam wrecking blow or just spam it A LOT till I get into execute range and then skip right over executioner and go for one more wrecking blow.

As a magDK it was all about sustain till you could stack/time a major sorc buff/proxy/ leap or shooting star for a quick burst then whip them down. if you could wait till the CC immunity wore off and get a quick talons on them you could add a little more dps if it wasn't enough burst to take them down. If running fossilize doing that combo it would be: get the proxy up, get major sorcery, cast meteor then fossilize. They would sit there fossilized unable to do anything and take a full meteor to the face, rush in for the proxy then whip till it was a fluffy consistency.

Sad part of playing a magDK solo, for me, was my dots were pretty much useless. So unless I could get a burst chain combo it was basically a fight of sustains when it came to Templars.

if its a stam temp, I did the same. One thing I would try to remember was to time blocks to keep from being CC'd from jabs.

EDIT: I just re-read the title and realize I gave away all my DK brethren's secrets.....nevermind I said anything

It's a post to benefit both parties. Should really be a state of the game currently to provide new users an idea which rotations work/tactics work.

olivaresdonjuan

I went against a good magic dk with my Stam dk and man there is a difference. I was hitting him hard and wearing him down but the damage mitigation and cc that a magic dk has is awesome. I will be making a magic dk when I finish make my 4 Stam builds, and you guessed it, the other 4 will be mirror builds but with magic.

driosketch

Your mileage may vary, but... blazing spear every 4 seconds in between jabs/sweep plus your 2 favorite dawn's wrath abilities. Eclipse reflects alot of DK abilities. Breath, purifying ritual and remembrance if you run into trouble.

I'm not really bothered by solo DK encounters. Even in a long fight, I know they aren't going to vanish or bolt away on me. I, I did have one out run me though. I might need a bit more stamina on my build.

eliisra

My last encounter with a magicka DK 1v1. After roughly 8 minutes of no ones health really moving below 50%, because both semi-tanky while hitting like soggy noddles, he suddenly did /chair. I did /flute. We looked at each other and played instruments for a bit, than mounted up and headed towards Arrius that was under attacks. The End.

If a magicka DK has good magicka management, while the templar can manage stamina, it's just never going to end.

Only reason a templar ever looses to a magicka DK's is because he/she messes up stamina management and fails to break Fossilize, than gets Meteor and the rest in the face (which you totally deserve at that point).

BuggeX

Magicka DK will not be able to kill you, so outresource him, you will end up killing him after a time or both will not be able to kill the other one. Eclips is anoying as DK, Flame Lash Bugs out and Talons will kill himself.
if he Talons you, just heal yourself, dont rolldoge to avoid Talons, he will do it aigan.

Stamina DK will simply crush you in seconds

Corzz

Templar should ruin magic dk their damage is DoTs and their talon can also be cleansed they cant kill you if you have decent sustain which is easy when your a templar just wait it out with purify heals I use vampire bane in duels against them since jabs is a cone and if they talon you then you wont hit them, sit back wait for meteor eclipse + proxy and jesus beam.

Stam DK is pretty ridiculous in 1v1 right now but its easier than sorc I can actually take wins from decent stam dks, but they will win most of the time, that rev bash leap combo