Explain this please.

Shadow_Akula

Can someone explain how a lvl 31 can kill a veteran rank 10 in PVP by themselves when the VR10 is fighting back I mean the VR 10 is 30 lvls above them 30! Oh forgot to mention the 31's are mages so is it mages being overpowered or just a handful of cheats? I mean ok fair enough a 31 Mage being able to kill a 41 but a VR 10, sorry but no it shouldn't be possible unless the VR 10 hasn't fought back until they're at something like half health.

AfkNinja

Everyone in pvp is battle leveled to v15. Anyone can beat you if you suck, even a lvl 10.

Shadow_Akula

^ well it shouldn't work that way otherwise what's the point in the levels?

Moglijuana

AkulA1996 wrote: »

^ well it shouldn't work that way otherwise what's the point in the levels?

With a higher level you acquire more skills/passives/access to better gear. If you're getting beat by a level 31 (even though they are battle leveled) that just means they severely outplayed you. Battle leveling is there so the top level players simply don't one shot lower levels. This is a L2P issue...like really lol

Greiver

Battle leveling is a joke. Should have never been introduced.

mcurley

Yea don't underestimate low levels in this game. Just because you are a higher level doesn't mean you are a better player... it doesn't even mean you have better stats in many cases due to Battle Leveling

Shadow_Akula

Sorry but a VR 16 can't one shot a VR 1 if the non vets want to join a Vet server it serves em right to get one shotted by a veteran rank - there's a reason the Non-Veteran server exists.
Also struggling to see how a cowardly Mage can beat a warrior just because they can shoot a floating crystal at you and fire flames from a stick.

Defilted

I love the battle leveling debate.

Half the crowd thinks that you should start the game up for the first time and be able to jump into PVP and compete because of battle leveling

The half is indifferent and has various opinions on the matter.

Keep it rolling.

Shadow_Akula

mcurley wrote: »

Yea don't underestimate low levels in this game. Just because you are a higher level doesn't mean you are a better player... it doesn't even mean you have better stats in many cases due to Battle Leveling

Nobody said it means your a better player. But with the skill points, Champion points and points you can spend on health magica and stamina it should weigh in favour of the veteran rank

Greiver

Just don't understand why some new people seem to think that they should be even with people who put time and effort into their character. Do what most of us did, grind, level your way to 16. If it's too much or takes too long, then sorry, this game isn't for you. It's already mindlessly easy to level a guy up.

Unsent.Soul

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Sorry but a VR 16 can't one shot a VR 1 if the non vets want to join a Vet server it serves em right to get one shotted by a veteran rank - there's a reason the Non-Veteran server exists.
Also struggling to see how a cowardly Mage can beat a warrior just because they can shoot a floating crystal at you and fire flames from a stick.

Lol it just not fair!!!!!!!

Before you start saying people are cheating because they beat you at a lower level you might want to think before you post. It really makes you look like a child kicking and screaming because they didn't get what they want.

Shadow_Akula

^ and you sir may want to learn how to read and how not to type like a *** to avoid being reported - just saying

I'm allowed to post my views on something and also this is the ESO forum - generally the place people come to - to find this information, I found nothing like this already mentioned hence why I made the topic to find out the information!

Ok yeah sure I first posted it seems like it's cheating but I didn't outright say it's cheating - I said it could be the class being over powered or cheating. Big difference to coming out and saying "it's definitely cheating" but now thanks to some nice users who explained the issue I know better. There's no need for you to type your comment that way.

redspecter23

Leveling to v16 isn't a challenge, it's a time sink. Learning to play pvp well will take much longer than the grind to max level. A well geared level 15 toon will play very similarly to a v15 in similar quality gear due to the battle leveling mechanics. The v15 may have an advantage with more skill points and more skills unlocked and available, but that's about it. There is no advantage by simply being a higher level in pvp and this is by design.

Olen_Mikko

I have beaten vr16 with my lvl40 NB repeatedly. Why?

With battle leveling, it doesn't matter what you level is. Favors are on veteran player with cp /passives / skills / gears, but if you haven't trained PvP, it is only fair and square that someone, who have played and trained PvP, beats the s**t out of you.

otherwise there would be only vr16 characters in veteran pvp.

So, if low level player beats vr toon, that means either low level player is really good, or vr player sucks. Or both.

Luigi_Vampa

Battle leveling + champion points + skill = some strong low levels in PvP. If you are getting beat by lower levels it is nothing but them being a better player than you.

Torbschka

If u get killed by a lvl 30 with all your passives / skills (he probably doesnt even had the last skills of his classskills) you just suck, imagine this guy would have been your level with more passives / skills lol.

#l2pissue

raasdal

Pretty easy;

The VR10 is not very good at PvP. The Level 31 was better.

Also; Battle Leveling.

Lucky28

AkulA1996 wrote: »

^ well it shouldn't work that way otherwise what's the point in the levels?

If you're on Azura NA/PC that Lv. 31 might have been me. and yeah Everyone is battle leveled to V15 plus i have CP. However, my armor sucks. good players can easily hit me for 20 - 25K if they get a clean hit. so even still, it does take a level of skill to actually compete as a non vet in a vet server.

The way it works now is so much better than what it used to be though. used to be a non vet character where just tanky as all hell.

revonine

I can burst down quite a few players I've encountered into execute range (esp light amour players) with one Wrecking Blow and a Dragon leap on my level 47 stam DK. Once she hits VET1 with the gear I've already crafted and acquired she's gonna have stats comparable to my V16 NB. Remember the gear you wear get's battle leveled too.

Millerman34n

It's called he has skill and you don't

Millerman34n

U do run the spambush build?

Xvorg

I have no problem with battle leveling.

Nevertheless I have just a question, skill cost (mag, stam) is the same or not?

Shadow_Akula

Millerman34n wrote: »

U do run the spambush build?

Do you run the being a *** build much? (FYI reported, theres no need for your responses. A respectful response will do)

Mumyo

Greiver wrote: »

Battle leveling is a joke. Should have never been introduced.

yeah everybody in the game shouldnt be allowed to have fun untill he is v16 which takes years.
INtroduce em as gunfood.
WTF

AfkNinja

AkulA1996 wrote: »

^ well it shouldn't work that way otherwise what's the point in the levels?

The developers prefer to have pvp where skill maters more than lvl (As it should). This is their game, they designed it that way intentionally even adding -50% dmg and healing with IC to keep time to kill lower requiring SKILL TO WIN. I never say this buuuuuut "learn to play, git gud scrub".

Solariken

Battle-leveling is one of the best things about this game. The power gap without it would be ridiculously wide and not fun for anyone.

Battle-leveling has two main benefits:

1. It allows all fights to at least potentially be decided on the basis of skill, which is more fun for everyone.
2. It greatly increases the population of people you get to play against, which is more fun for everyone.

Even with battle-leveling, a geared max level player will utterly crush a battle-leveled player 9/10 times. I don't wish to offend, but you got rekt because that level 31 was a better player than you (and/or had far more champion points than you).

Figure out what you did wrong and get better. That's how it should be.

Tankqull

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Can someone explain how a lvl 31 can kill a veteran rank 10 in PVP by themselves when the VR10 is fighting back I mean the VR 10 is 30 lvls above them 30! Oh forgot to mention the 31's are mages so is it mages being overpowered or just a handful of cheats? I mean ok fair enough a 31 Mage being able to kill a 41 but a VR 10, sorry but no it shouldn't be possible unless the VR 10 hasn't fought back until they're at something like half health.

so becasue of being craptastic you demand other players being demoted from equal standing to uselessness to suit your ego... great...

Shadow_Akula

Tankqull wrote: »

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Can someone explain how a lvl 31 can kill a veteran rank 10 in PVP by themselves when the VR10 is fighting back I mean the VR 10 is 30 lvls above them 30! Oh forgot to mention the 31's are mages so is it mages being overpowered or just a handful of cheats? I mean ok fair enough a 31 Mage being able to kill a 41 but a VR 10, sorry but no it shouldn't be possible unless the VR 10 hasn't fought back until they're at something like half health.

so becasue of being craptastic you demand other players being demoted from equal standing to uselessness to suit your ego... great...

No I demand it to suit the whole point of the ranking system. There's no point in rankings since everyone gets levelled to the same thing in PVP.

Lucky28

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Can someone explain how a lvl 31 can kill a veteran rank 10 in PVP by themselves when the VR10 is fighting back I mean the VR 10 is 30 lvls above them 30! Oh forgot to mention the 31's are mages so is it mages being overpowered or just a handful of cheats? I mean ok fair enough a 31 Mage being able to kill a 41 but a VR 10, sorry but no it shouldn't be possible unless the VR 10 hasn't fought back until they're at something like half health.

so becasue of being craptastic you demand other players being demoted from equal standing to uselessness to suit your ego... great...

No I demand it to suit the whole point of the ranking system. There's no point in rankings since everyone gets levelled to the same thing in PVP.

Not true. Non-vet characters are more effective in PvP but that doesn't mean there is no point in leveling and getting V16 Gear there is a big difference between a V16 who is geared and battle leveled non-vet. the battle leveling just gives people a chance to enjoy PvP without getting steamrolled.

pitkanencomplexeb17_ESO

Lol button. Where do you play, because you seem like easy alliance points?

revonine

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Tankqull wrote: »

AkulA1996 wrote: »

Can someone explain how a lvl 31 can kill a veteran rank 10 in PVP by themselves when the VR10 is fighting back I mean the VR 10 is 30 lvls above them 30! Oh forgot to mention the 31's are mages so is it mages being overpowered or just a handful of cheats? I mean ok fair enough a 31 Mage being able to kill a 41 but a VR 10, sorry but no it shouldn't be possible unless the VR 10 hasn't fought back until they're at something like half health.

so becasue of being craptastic you demand other players being demoted from equal standing to uselessness to suit your ego... great...

No I demand it to suit the whole point of the ranking system. There's no point in rankings since everyone gets levelled to the same thing in PVP.

Do you really wanna go back to the days of no battle leveling once you hit VET1 and equalized stats for 10-50's? Gear actually mattering now is GOOD no more running around Cyrodill naked and no more dying if someone sneezed on you if your VET1 -10.