vWGT/vICP DropBug Theories and Tests

Cinbri

Farming vICP since realease every day. Got every single piece of every single set, except the only reason why i farming it - leeching plate. ZOS don't tell me that it works as intended

usmcjdking

Okay, can confirm with op that this is indeed the case. Before first boss, I deconned a shock masters belt with divines, lo and behold it dropped for one of our party members. The drops are not RNG, they are parsed and pulled numerically from a loot table.

Cuyler

the previous rate was probably 1.0% not 10% lol. That would explain it

Personofsecrets

Well, can't we use this to our advantage?

usmcjdking

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Well, can't we use this to our advantage?

Yup.

I'm not considering this an exploit. WTB your bound imperium gear!

Personofsecrets

It is also time that we start chest farming in wrothgar without autoloot.

WolfingHour

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Well, can't we use this to our advantage?

How? My group of wgt/icp regulars all have multiple chars with different roles so, at best, we would pass on (perhaps) gear with lousy traits.

If this is true, its plain worst than straight up rng because gargabe is actively taking the place of gear with desired traits.

And all of this because ZOS wants to reinvent the wheel. Just implement tokens and be done with it. You can even link it to crafting to make it more engaging.

PaddingtonBear

yeap I have like 3 full sets of overwhelming when all I need is 1 set of spell power cure ==

at this rate prob I will be stuck farming vwgt for a month or two, no time for vmsa

oh and guess what I just open 2 vault to get 4x well fitted lolol

TiberX

mateoz wrote: »

They probably just did a typo in the patch note
Original:
Official Patch notes :

Dungeons & Group Content
Dungeons
General
Increased the drop rate of set items from the White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison dungeons by approximately 2.5 times their previous rate.

What we should read:
Increased the drop rate of set items from the White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison dungeons to approximately 2.5% rate.

Simple and it work with everyone numbers

Yup, they are good with percentages , like the armor penetration of maces and they fix it after several months..
At least we should know whats happening.

Personofsecrets

Cinbri wrote: »

Farming vICP since realease every day. Got every single piece of every single set, except the only reason why i farming it - leeching plate. ZOS don't tell me that it works as intended

Similar to me. I have not gotten a single leeching piece.

Flak

usmcjdking wrote: »

Okay, can confirm with op that this is indeed the case. Before first boss, I deconned a shock masters belt with divines, lo and behold it dropped for one of our party members. The drops are not RNG, they are parsed and pulled numerically from a loot table.

Thanks for your testing, i tried the same with some Molag Kena Helmets now and it dropped again with same trait. It seems that this is not just for the vWGT/vICP Drop, and if it occurs to Kena Helmet its very likely to be the same for any other monster helmets/dungeon drops, will test this later with the goldkey. I think its about time we get a response. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

And if not at least we know what to do now with unwanted gear... make another char and destroy it

Personofsecrets

This is very very strange. We need more testing to be sure of this and to further test theory.

usmcjdking

They probably attempted to make the RNG a little bit better by parsing your item history into loot rolls...

But it didn't pan out like that. A for effort though.

Jeckll

@The_Saint - Story of your life.

Flak

usmcjdking wrote: »

They probably attempted to make the RNG a little bit better by parsing your item history into loot rolls...

But it didn't pan out like that. A for effort though.

Well I'm very sure this wasn't intended, it's a cruel mechanic.

Kaliki

Personofsecrets wrote: »

Similar to me. I have not gotten a single leeching piece.

I have dozens of set pieces, also leeching plate, but none of the ones I originally wanted: Scathing Mage.

Also, in Wrothgar its almost like every second set piece drop in Arena is a winterborn sash or gloves for me.

I would laugh at it, if this wasn't so tragic. RNG completely ruins the itemisation in the game for me. By the time I have 2-3 set pieces I want, there is another DLC and/or I have realised that the set is not worth the effort anyway.

Personofsecrets

Seeding is all screwed up @ZOS_RichLambert . Random is not random.

DiktaHasi

You all know it's always been like this in ESO:



(https://xkcd.com/221/)

PaddingtonBear

Yea they need to fix this asap its a waste of time cos everyday I log on and do my 5 or so runs of vwgt, would be nice to know if it is a waste of time trying to get spell power cure

Flak

PaddingtonBear wrote: »

Yea they need to fix this asap its a waste of time cos everyday I log on and do my 5 or so runs of vwgt, would be nice to know if it is a waste of time trying to get spell power cure

If your group members don't deconstruct there craploot u should have a chance.

lathbury

4 runs yesterday zero set pieces for anyone of us this isnt sounding like 25% drop rate to me.

FizzOnly

tbh i think it maybe is intended.would come handy to keep people busy for months till they release new dungeons with the same rng.

Carter_DC

Flak wrote: »

What we finaly found out was that items that we deconstructed with our mains would drop again in the next run for one of the party members.

I would agree that drop rates are ridiculous, but, come on... Am I the only one who finds this theory utterly bonkers ?
That is just bad urban legend - Imperial City style.

Flak

Carter_DC wrote: »

I would agree that drop rates are ridiculous, but, come on... Am I the only one who finds this theory utterly bonkers ?
That is just bad urban legend - Imperial City style.

Im not here to make myself airs, maybe u should read the OP & thread before u denie something, you would see that many people tested it and had the same results as me. And its definetly not a legend, i never heard anybody mention this specific mechanic before.

Naslu

Drop Chance:

well after 164 runs vwgt i completed spellpower cure set for my healer (still one piece with impen. but hey - completed!).

this rng **** is not funny.
sometimes the game seems to know what you want and keeps you busy:

1.5 times: grind for 1x missing healers mending ring (AA-HRC): 201runs counted
in 1.6 for my new dk: Valkyn Skoria hat: 107 runs counted till 1st drop
Molag Kena hat: 2nd run (wowy extreeem happy in that moment)
Spellpower Cure : see above

but the best was: 1x missing ring of thorne (the 3piece healer set) 1year, 3months till drop - 2weeks later they introduced Vrank 16 (thx)

sometimes i wish token system, but thats another story....

Carter_DC

aamof i did read your whole OP and the whole thread prior to posting.

Saddly it's impossible to prevent ppl from drawing correlation between non related events.
More sad is the fact that ZOS won't take the time to tell you it's not how things actually work.
Even sadder, if they did, u'd probably still think your theories are right.

uso245

This is a good discussion topic considering the multiple times I have run it I have only gotten a single Overwhelming pc and nearly completed all other sets. This goes the same for the Scathing set as well.

ThatNeonZebraAgain

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

Flak

But you know how it works. he?
As I said these are theories. I'm here in a forum to discuss them with people and share my experiences. I don't know how you come to the clue here that I would be such an ignorant person.
However it seems your not here to discuss, so I'll leave it at this point.

Praeficere

Odd, did vICP the other day and each of my group members - including myself - looted one or two set pieces per boss with actual desirable traits.