Power Surge

Amorpho

I am strongly attracted to power surge for my magika sorc. Is it really viable? Does anyone use it in pvp? Most magika builds I see around totally ignore it...

DannyLV702

I love it and wreck faces with it lol. It's a sorcerer skill so not all magika builds have access to it. Most people seem to love entropy, but i don't like that it lasts half the time of surge, and you can't use it in stealth

Maulkin

Amorpho wrote: »

I am strongly attracted to power surge for my magika sorc. Is it really viable? Does anyone use it in pvp? Most magika builds I see around totally ignore it...

Define "viable".

It's primarily a spell damage buff with some RNG heals thrown in. The buff lasts longer than then other option (entropy) and it doesn't need a target, so it's better. The heals are also better than entropy over the duration even if you don't specifically build for high crit chance.

If by "viable" you mean you can run with Power Surge as your only heal, then no it's not viable. Not in PvP at least (it's viable in PvE). You'll need Healing Ward or Blessing or Restoration.... something that can offer a reliable heal and doesn't require a target.

pronkg

People use entropy because it gives a 20% dmg boost on next attack trough mages guild passives

tennant94

In terms of killing people, entropy is more effective.

Amorpho

By "viable" I mean if it is a skill worth keeping on your bar in pvp. So far my build has been about sustainability and survivability. However, now that I have more experience with pvp I want to focus of damage burst. I am building up my crit chance and spell damage with different sets and skills. I personally don't like entropy very much for the reasons mentioned above. But the thing I hate the most about entropy is that it provides no visual cue for when it is up (unlike power surge, that wraps your hand in lightning). Yes, I'm on console. But what entropy offers over all is better. Yes, the heals are not great, but the 20% damage bonus and the +8% health while slotted are very good.

ToRelax

8% hp don't help you when they sit only on one bar.

Power Surge gives better heals, requires no target and lasts much longer.
Degeneration - my preferred Entropy morph - heals less most of the time, is cheaper and grants Empower.

Surge also gives 2% spell damage while slotted vs. 2% max magicka and 2% magicka regen from Entropy.

Degeneration can heal more than Power Surge when you are spamming Overload with low crit chance (under ~40%).
The heals stack, so it's a viable option to use both of them if you are using Overload a lot.

What I am currently doing is putting Power Surge on my Overload bar, as a very long lasting buff it usually stays up until I toggle Overload mode the next time. Frees a slot on the other bars.

Amorpho

ToRelax wrote: »

8% hp don't help you when they sit only on one bar.

Power Surge gives better heals, requires no target and lasts much longer.
Degeneration - my preferred Entropy morph - heals less most of the time, is cheaper and grants Empower.

Surge also gives 2% spell damage while slotted vs. 2% max magicka and 2% magicka regen from Entropy.

Degeneration can heal more than Power Surge when you are spamming Overload with low crit chance (under ~40%).
The heals stack, so it's a viable option to use both of them if you are using Overload a lot.

What I am currently doing is putting Power Surge on my Overload bar, as a very long lasting buff it usually stays up until I toggle Overload mode the next time. Frees a slot on the other bars.

Are you saying that Degeneration counts Power Overload light attacks as weapon attacks, hence healing me for 150% of the damage I am doing 15% of the time????!!

ToRelax

Amorpho wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

8% hp don't help you when they sit only on one bar.

Power Surge gives better heals, requires no target and lasts much longer.
Degeneration - my preferred Entropy morph - heals less most of the time, is cheaper and grants Empower.

Surge also gives 2% spell damage while slotted vs. 2% max magicka and 2% magicka regen from Entropy.

Degeneration can heal more than Power Surge when you are spamming Overload with low crit chance (under ~40%).
The heals stack, so it's a viable option to use both of them if you are using Overload a lot.

What I am currently doing is putting Power Surge on my Overload bar, as a very long lasting buff it usually stays up until I toggle Overload mode the next time. Frees a slot on the other bars.

Are you saying that Degeneration counts Power Overload light attacks as weapon attacks, hence healing me for 150% of the damage I am doing 15% of the time????!!

Is it that much, I thought 115%. But yes.

Amorpho

ToRelax wrote: »

Amorpho wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

8% hp don't help you when they sit only on one bar.

Power Surge gives better heals, requires no target and lasts much longer.
Degeneration - my preferred Entropy morph - heals less most of the time, is cheaper and grants Empower.

Surge also gives 2% spell damage while slotted vs. 2% max magicka and 2% magicka regen from Entropy.

Degeneration can heal more than Power Surge when you are spamming Overload with low crit chance (under ~40%).
The heals stack, so it's a viable option to use both of them if you are using Overload a lot.

What I am currently doing is putting Power Surge on my Overload bar, as a very long lasting buff it usually stays up until I toggle Overload mode the next time. Frees a slot on the other bars.

Are you saying that Degeneration counts Power Overload light attacks as weapon attacks, hence healing me for 150% of the damage I am doing 15% of the time????!!

Is it that much, I thought 115%. But yes.

Yeah it's probably only 115%. But the thing is, it is only 15% of the time. I mean, this would work great with my build because I have Power Overload constantly on my 2nd bar. Power Surge would give me much more constant heals, whereas Entropy would give me a guaranteed 20% damage bonus on top of major sorcery through the might of the guild passive... I guess I'd have to try both and see which one works better with me. Do you know if there is going to be a skills reset at the launch of Orsinium?