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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

First person PVP only mode (hardcore mode)?

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To promote first person in PVP I would like to see a advanced radar added in. 3rd person has such a advantage that hardly anyone uses first person, but this also carries into arena PVP match modes where everyone can only use first person. What are your thoughts on adding something extra to help out those first person PVP combat experiences?
  • Jitterbug
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    Thanks, but no thanks.
    Wouldn't mind you having the possibility though.
  • Jowrik
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    I've been thinking of this since release.
    I'd love it. It would add so much more to combat & situational awareness in PVP. Reaction times would be slower & one would have to watch the floor & look around alot more..

    One can dream I guess. Don't think this is gonna happen due to 95% playerbase playing 3rd person.

    Funny tho. Before the game released everyone complained about the game not having 1st person-mode "not a true elder scrolls experience" etc. Now hardly anyone is using it, unless you're feeling like storymode.
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  • Asmael
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    Well, Skyrim's 3rd person seemed at best clumsy to use. It's also much, MUCH harder to hit anything with spells / bow that require precision.

    That's not an issue with ESO, since targeting "in the general area around someone" will guarantee a hit.

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  • Johngo0036
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    I tried 1st person in Cyrodiil and hated it as i could not see all around me..

    I love playing 1st person but was at a huge disadvantage.... at least in 3rd person i have full view of the battle field.
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  • Derra
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    Try teleporting as a sorc in first person. Come back after vomiting your soul into a bucket and revisit your idea.
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  • Jar_Ek
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    Tbh 1st person isn't so bad, except for the following:
    You have very limited situational awareness
    Charges always run you through the opponent
    You cannot see buffs without an add-on
    Some particle effects essentially blind you

    That said you can get used to it to some extent but it is always a disadvantage.

    Having said that a campaign that locked you into 1st person mode would be very interesting.
    Edited by Jar_Ek on 24 October 2015 10:12
  • iStr8ownedU
    Derra wrote: »
    Try teleporting as a sorc in first person. Come back after vomiting your soul into a bucket and revisit your idea.

    Lmao


    Jar_Ek wrote: »
    Tbh 1st person isn't so bad, except for the following:
    You have very limited situational awareness
    Charges always run you through the opponent
    You cannot see buffs without an add-on
    Some particle effects essentially blind you

    That said you can get used to it to some extent but it is always a disadvantage.

    Having said that a campaign that locked you into 1st person mode would be very interesting.

    All of this can be fixed but since first person is under used no one has addressed the issues that comes with its use.
    Situational awareness = radar
    Charges run through opponent = bug fix
    Add on buffs = should be with next patch but no promises
    Particle effects = added density setting of buff/debuff spell (unless there's a blinding spell
  • Waffennacht
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    I was running only in first person. Recently gave third person a try. The differenc was outstanding.

    One example is many player abilities have effects on the first person view that third does not, such as the screen shaking.

    Oh and boss battles, the Ash Titan's wave flame attack in First person looks like a solid wall, in third you can clearly see the separation of the individual waves.

    I really doubt im going back to first person
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Uh I play 1st person already sssoooo..... yea if you want a real "hard core" make a sever that doesn't allow skills only light and heavy attacks and potions just like you know past TES games
  • Erock25
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    Uh I play 1st person already sssoooo..... yea if you want a real "hard core" make a sever that doesn't allow skills only light and heavy attacks and potions just like you know past TES games

    Haha this guy here making a ton of balancing suggestions, especially related to pvp, and he plays in first person.
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    Erock25 wrote: »
    Uh I play 1st person already sssoooo..... yea if you want a real "hard core" make a sever that doesn't allow skills only light and heavy attacks and potions just like you know past TES games

    Haha this guy here making a ton of balancing suggestions, especially related to pvp, and he plays in first person.

    Only way to balance anything is to experience all forms of it instead of what the popular form is. Maybe something is as broken in 1st person than 3rd and vis versa. Maybe if ZOS played in a full set of heavy armor in PvP they see how useless it is and so on. That is what a programmer is supposed to do is try all forms of combat and skills and so on to balance there game not just what who said what.
  • iStr8ownedU

    Erock25 wrote: »
    Uh I play 1st person already sssoooo..... yea if you want a real "hard core" make a sever that doesn't allow skills only light and heavy attacks and potions just like you know past TES games

    Haha this guy here making a ton of balancing suggestions, especially related to pvp, and he plays in first person.

    Only way to balance anything is to experience all forms of it instead of what the popular form is. Maybe something is as broken in 1st person than 3rd and vis versa. Maybe if ZOS played in a full set of heavy armor in PvP they see how useless it is and so on. That is what a programmer is supposed to do is try all forms of combat and skills and so on to balance there game not just what who said what.

    I know you have more hours and experience as a first person player then I do what do you think is missing and or would like to change? PVE and PVP?
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    I like the idea but it would not work.

    If your a player like me who uses DW and Expert Hunter. You cant even see. Literally the effects on your weapons give you like a 20 FOV. So this would not work so well. Im forced to use third person view.
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  • iStr8ownedU
    I like the idea but it would not work.

    If your a player like me who uses DW and Expert Hunter. You cant even see. Literally the effects on your weapons give you like a 20 FOV. So this would not work so well. Im forced to use third person view.

    I know what you are talking about I tried and bow with EH is literally unplayable it takes up 2/3 of the screen
  • AshTal
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    I play PvE in first person because I like the game style and fighting. But you really would have to be nuts to play in PvP and can't imagine who would. While I might like to first person would have to offer some bonuses for me to even try.

    I say that no one does but sometimes I see people have no idea a NB has just come up and attacked them from behind, maybe these people aren't watching TV while firing a siege weapon they are actually in first person and had no idea they had been attacked.
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