PVP in this game is horrible

Legendzerox

Completely unbalanced, some skills are so powerful they are game changers, fights take an ungodly amount of time, etc. I really expected more from someone who was once on the DAoC team, then again Matt Firor's "accomplishment" was bringing out New Frontiers which needed major overhauls to become good. When a fight takes an upwards of 20 minutes, you screwed up somewhere in the design process. You know you also screwed up somewhere when you had to bring in limiters to avoid players 1 shotting others, but at the same time made it extremely hard to even do anything to said person. Its very unfun, and honestly I played the game for this and after putting in nearly 600 hours, I am about ready to quit and wait for Camelot Unchained.

The keeps always flip, and pvp is never populated, it feels very destitute. All the server choices and flavors does this game no justice. The keeps themselves and strategic points you can capture are through standing on flags? Are you freaking serious? Thats stupid. This isn't tug of war, this is freaking war. I highly suggest the people who designed this crap fest rethink their design on pvp, cause its a joke. Its not just that though, its the skills that cause these battles to prolong, its the gear itself, its the freaking game. Its why they had to implement debuffs to damage and resistances and buffed hp because they have no real solution to this problem.

PvP in its current state is very anti-fun. Champion levels and its abilities is such a toxic mechanic, why introduce something that gives you even more of an advantage over someone else? Did you learn nothing from DAoC Matt? Obviously not. I can't wait for Mark Jacob's game to come into fruition, because you sir have no talent.

Legendzerox

Don't even get me started on Emperor. Why does that mechanic even exist? I wish I could see a constant struggle between all 3 realms like in DAoC. But when someone gets EMP, people quit playing and leave PvP until he is gone, and when we come back, the whole map is one color. Thats the game. The map is always one color for the most part because no one cares about PvP. The big fights are very rare and you never really see zerg on zerg warfare, or anyone really defending keeps for that matter.

Hedonista

Legendzerox wrote: »

Its very unfun, and honestly I played the game for this and after putting in nearly 600 hours,

600 hours of gameplay = 25 days
Gamelaunch = April 4, 2014 (557 days)
You have spent 1/22 of your entire life since the launch of the game on something you vehemently hate.

This leads me to believe one of two scenarios:

1) You really don't hate PVP, you're just frustrated with it as of now, getting burned out, etc. In which, your post could be slightly exaggerated.

2) You have spent a full 25 days of the last year and a half in a state of anger and frustration. That's not normal behavior.

I am leaning towards the first option, because if it's the second...

Legendzerox

If they removed the freaking Emperor mechanic, pvp would be a lot better. That mechanic is bullcrap.

Levo18

without emperor pvp would be dead because no one would have a goal to even fight.

a.skelton92

Yeah but in all honesty, how often do you actually come across an emperor? It really cannot be that often, there is only one person with those abilities running around Cyrodiil. A emperor in a hay stack.

Amica

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Yeah but in all honesty, how often do you actually come across an emperor? It really cannot be that often, there is only one person with those abilities running around Cyrodiil. A emperor in a hay stack.

You don't pvp do you? some of the emps in this game must have their own narcotics lab in the basement for the hours they stay awake to hold that top spot.

a.skelton92

Amica wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Yeah but in all honesty, how often do you actually come across an emperor? It really cannot be that often, there is only one person with those abilities running around Cyrodiil. A emperor in a hay stack.

You don't pvp do you? some of the emps in this game must have their own narcotics lab in the basement for the hours they stay awake to hold that top spot.

Haha, I know what you mean. Not that i am trying to be argumentative though, but I do pvp quite often, and I can honestly say I have NEVER even encountered one in a fight.. Though I wish I could because i want to see one in action, i honestly think its a very cool idea and refreshing in an MMO to have something such as 'emperorship' to aim for rather than just an arms race, haha.

gibous

This is probably the worst possible approach to feedback. It reads like more of a sad diary entry. There's plenty of actual meaningful threads addressing the various things you complain about, without the emotional baggage.

tonemd

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Amica wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Yeah but in all honesty, how often do you actually come across an emperor? It really cannot be that often, there is only one person with those abilities running around Cyrodiil. A emperor in a hay stack.

You don't pvp do you? some of the emps in this game must have their own narcotics lab in the basement for the hours they stay awake to hold that top spot.

Haha, I know what you mean. Not that i am trying to be argumentative though, but I do pvp quite often, and I can honestly say I have NEVER even encountered one in a fight.. Though I wish I could because i want to see one in action, i honestly think its a very cool idea and refreshing in an MMO to have something such as 'emperorship' to aim for rather than just an arms race, haha.

Maybe you don't run into the larger groups which EMP group tend to target. A healing, bat swarming emp keeping his raid alive through crap tons of damage is...annoying.

As to the OP, yep. But, you have a looong wait for CU, or any other good large scale pvp mmo to come out. THAT is the reason a lot of people are still here.

Legendzerox

Levo18 wrote: »

without emperor pvp would be dead because no one would have a goal to even fight.

You obviously never played DAoC

TheBritishBunny

Sorry I am terribly new to this forum.

However, what server are you on? I'm on Xbox One EU and in Azura Star, and it is constantly busy by all three alliances and it is also a lot of fun. I never get bored in there and I've had this game since it first came out on the console.

Hexyl

I'm totaly agree with you Legend.

The fact is that they wanted make a new disgn style in mmo world. But it's a fail.

Imo. All the probs is around this :
No cooldown -> no possibility to balance an ability compared to another. Even if it's a 5sec CD. It will bring more reflexion more skill and more strategie in fight

stamina/magicka regen need a fix. Also the cost and the damage for AoE.


the next great prob is the battle scale and CP. delete this (yeah CP too) and make a v15-v16 campaign, a non-vet, and another with battle scall from vet1 to v14.

TheLaw

Back when this game launched on PC, Pvp was actually amazing. They've moved so far away from fun in an attempt to "balance" the game, for cry babies. We're far worse off now.

k2blader

TheLaw wrote: »

Back when this game launched on PC, Pvp was actually amazing. They've moved so far away from fun in an attempt to "balance" the game, for cry babies. We're far worse off now.

Generally agree. Also, I still wish FCs would be fixed and brought back to help Cyrodiil be a bit less predictable and more fun. People had all sorts of great ideas on that issue, but I think Zenimax listened to the "death must have consequences"/suck-the-fun-from-life types, so now we have the equestrian simulator.

Glaiceana

I had a go with PvP tonight. (Played a couple months ago for about half an hour just to see, but spent more time on it this time) It was ok. I've never been good with PvP in anything, so I expected to die a lot, but I did get a couple of kills. Noticed that I die very quickly at close quarters. Also since I'm not experienced with it yet, a lot of my time was spent running around wondering where everyone was. The few times I wayshrined to the correct place (ie where everyone else is and the action is happening) and had quite a lot of fun running along on mounts with a group of people heading to the next resource to take control of.

Still very confused with how it all works, but practice makes perfect, as cliche as it might be, its true.
Others may say PvP in this game is horrible, but for me I don't really have anything else to base it on, so I will just learn to cope as best I can!

Rayste

Legendzerox wrote: »

Levo18 wrote: »

without emperor pvp would be dead because no one would have a goal to even fight.

You obviously never played DAoC

DAOC had realm rank progression. Instead of keeping with that, they made progression champion point based. Pros and cons to both I suppose.

That said, it really doesn't feel like we are fighting toward anything. There is no sense of server loyalty anymore. Its all too chaotic and back and forthing with guesting etc.

Cody

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Amica wrote: »

a.skelton92 wrote: »

Yeah but in all honesty, how often do you actually come across an emperor? It really cannot be that often, there is only one person with those abilities running around Cyrodiil. A emperor in a hay stack.

You don't pvp do you? some of the emps in this game must have their own narcotics lab in the basement for the hours they stay awake to hold that top spot.

Haha, I know what you mean. Not that i am trying to be argumentative though, but I do pvp quite often, and I can honestly say I have NEVER even encountered one in a fight.. Though I wish I could because i want to see one in action, i honestly think its a very cool idea and refreshing in an MMO to have something such as 'emperorship' to aim for rather than just an arms race, haha.

Back in the days of wabbajack, when LA magicka DKs were OP, there was an AD emp that reigned for over 100 consecutive days. He was capable of soloing entire raids, with no assistance at all from his allies. If they happened to be taken down to the last keep, the ENTIRE AD faction would turtle inside the last keep. It was ridiculous. lol good times though

Legendzerox

Zenimax needs to really think what they need to do to fix pvp, because when the big pvp mmos launch in 2016, ESO will become a ghost town.